Microkernels (was: A niche for the Hurd - multi-core systems)

2008-11-21 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 12:39:30AM +, Zheng Da wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:18 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am quite curious: why did porting to the modern microkernels fail? Well, it's a long story, and I don't understand all the details myself. I'll try to give a very rough

Re: A niche for the Hurd - multi-core systems

2008-11-16 Thread Zheng Da
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:18 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Last but not least, the question might be: why not drop Mach alltogether > and instead create a dedicated microkernel for the Hurd? Indeed after > several failed attempts with porting to existing modern microkernels > (L4, Coyotos),

Re: A niche for the Hurd - multi-core systems

2008-11-12 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 03:05:07PM +, Matthew Ayres wrote: > No doubt this shows my naivety, but why has GNU never built its own > replacement for Mach? Well, I'm not sure what you are asking exactly here. This question can be answered in several ways... First of all, you may not be awa

Re: A niche for the Hurd - multi-core systems

2008-11-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Matthew Ayres, le Sun 02 Nov 2008 15:05:07 +, a écrit : > No doubt this shows my naivety, but why has GNU never built its own > replacement for Mach? Just the same story: GNU used to be mostly userspace stuff. Then the Hurd servers brought some "kernel"ness, pushing the limit a bit further. Bu

Re: A niche for the Hurd - multi-core systems

2008-11-02 Thread Matthew Ayres
> > > > I would like to see the Hurd focusing on multi-core systems. > > > > > > Mach would need to be SMP-fixed first :) > > > > Does that mean the Hurd can't yet be used on multi-core systems? > > Hurd yes (though there are probably bugs), Mach no (as the smp code was > never maintained in the me

Re: A niche for the Hurd - multi-core systems

2008-11-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Arne Babenhauserheide, le Sun 02 Nov 2008 11:05:26 +0100, a écrit : > Am Dienstag 21 Oktober 2008 09:44:40 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > > Matthew Ayres, le Mon 20 Oct 2008 17:59:37 +0100, a écrit : > > > I would like to see the Hurd focusing on multi-core systems. > > > > Mach would need to be SMP-fi

Re: A niche for the Hurd - multi-core systems

2008-11-02 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Dienstag 21 Oktober 2008 09:44:40 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > Matthew Ayres, le Mon 20 Oct 2008 17:59:37 +0100, a écrit : > > I would like to see the Hurd focusing on multi-core systems. > > Mach would need to be SMP-fixed first :) Does that mean the Hurd can't yet be used on multi-core systems?