Re: Installing Debian GNU/Hurd in qemu/kvm using the Debian Installer (first draft)

2011-03-29 Thread Svante Signell
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 23:38 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > olafbuddenha...@gmx.net, le Tue 29 Mar 2011 17:50:53 +0200, a écrit : > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:46:36AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Svante Signell, le Wed 23 Mar 2011 10:27:31 +0100, a écrit : > > > > > > Note: add -no-kvm-ir

Re: Installing Debian GNU/Hurd in qemu/kvm using the Debian Installer (first draft)

2011-03-29 Thread Svante Signell
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 18:17 +0200, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:27:31AM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: > > > Attached is the first draft on how to install and run Debian GNU/Hurd > > using the Debian Installer. > > Great, thanks! :-) > > Will have to be turn

[PATCH] gnumach: kalloc: Zone determining and constants optimization

2011-03-29 Thread Maksym Planeta
Variables, which change their value only once, by the initialization were defined as macros. Routine for determining zone for object depends of object size. Since zone sizes are powers of two this routine was optimized. On x86 proceessors will be used bsr instruction. Signed-off-by: Maksym Planet

Re: XKB's keymaps for the Hurd console

2011-03-29 Thread Diego Nieto Cid
Hi, On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 01:57:07AM +0200, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: > > Hm... We will have to figure out the copyright sitution -- and also, why > these patches aren't upstream yet... > The patches came from console-driver-xkb package, that's probably why they aren't upstream. Some pe

Paying developers? (was: It may sound stupid...)

2011-03-29 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 02:42:59PM +0100, Tanguy LE CARROUR wrote: > If I have not time to work on it, maybe I should pay someone to do it > for me? Maybe not a full time job (I'm not B.G.), but if some people > would invest couple of hundreds $/? per year it could make a > difference!? Firs

Re: [GSoC] Implementing libcap

2011-03-29 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:44:29PM +0300, Esa-Matti Mourujärvi wrote: > I'm interested in applying for Hurd in GSoC. I am a second year CS > student in University of Oulu, Finland. Welcome :-) > I have knowledge of C to some extend, but I have never developed > anything big with it on my ow

Re: PyHurd GSoC

2011-03-29 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 06:24:38PM +0530, Grivan Thapar wrote: > I am interested in applying in GSoC this year for the Hurd. I have > python experience from my last year's GSoC project in python, > although I don't have much programming interface designing experience. > I do have a deep inter

website update (was: Installing Debian GNU/Hurd in qemu/kvm using the Debian Installer (first draft))

2011-03-29 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, > That said -- I'll do it shortly, as we need to update the GSoC page > now that the student application period has begun. Err... The old page was still displayed over the past couple of days? Ouch. Should have linked to the wiki instead, as I already suggested in the past years... -antrik-

Re: XKB's keymaps for the Hurd console

2011-03-29 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:32:13PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Diego Nieto Cid, le Mon 28 Mar 2011 18:15:06 -0300, a écrit : > > > Rather than copy/pasting ks_table.h, kstoucs.c and symname.c, I'd rather > > > see the Hurd console simply depend on libX11, actually. > > > > In that case I

Re: [PATCH,HURD] Fix link with gold

2011-03-29 Thread Roland McGrath
> Well, the thing is: we need to patch a fair number of applications > then (Xorg, gdb, ...) since the dependency used to be brought in > automatically (even explicitly, in the case of libc.a), so it looked > like it was a libc-provided feature. Well, it was. I'm just rethinking the decision made

Re: [PATCH,HURD] Fix link with gold

2011-03-29 Thread Roland McGrath
Note that rol...@redhat.com is an obsolete address. I've redirected the CC to bug-hurd, since this is a Hurd-only issue that needs discussion. That's the --no-add-needed default. Some systems have gone to passing that in the standard ld command from gcc, even using BFD ld (i.e. Fedora has). I ac

Re: [PATCH,HURD] Fix link with gold

2011-03-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Roland McGrath, le Tue 29 Mar 2011 15:34:45 -0700, a écrit : > > Well, the thing is: we need to patch a fair number of applications > > then (Xorg, gdb, ...) since the dependency used to be brought in > > automatically (even explicitly, in the case of libc.a), so it looked > > like it was a libc-pr

Re: [PATCH,HURD] Fix link with gold

2011-03-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Roland McGrath, le Tue 29 Mar 2011 15:11:59 -0700, a écrit : > Note that rol...@redhat.com is an obsolete address. Oops, I indeed took an old mail without checking the actual address. > That's the --no-add-needed default. Some systems have gone to passing that > in the standard ld command from g

Re: XMLFS for GSoC

2011-03-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Michael Walker, le Tue 29 Mar 2011 22:57:44 +0100, a écrit : > Finally, even if this doesn't get picked as a GSoC task (after I send > off my application), I still intend to do this over the summer to > better learn Hurd programming, and so either way there will be an > improved xmlfs this year :)

XMLFS for GSoC

2011-03-29 Thread Michael Walker
Hi, I'd like to apply to work on xmlfs for GSoC this summer. I've been going through the code over the past few days and working on it a bit, and have come up with a list of things to implement: * Fix all gcc warnings [done] This was really just so I'd be able to see which functions were whe

Re: Installing Debian GNU/Hurd in qemu/kvm using the Debian Installer (first draft)

2011-03-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
olafbuddenha...@gmx.net, le Tue 29 Mar 2011 18:17:34 +0200, a écrit : > Does KVM really use different images than plain QEMU? No. > Or is it the same utility, but uses a different name depending on > which package you installed?... Yes. > > deb http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian unstable main >

Re: Installing Debian GNU/Hurd in qemu/kvm using the Debian Installer (first draft)

2011-03-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
olafbuddenha...@gmx.net, le Tue 29 Mar 2011 17:50:53 +0200, a écrit : > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:46:36AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Svante Signell, le Wed 23 Mar 2011 10:27:31 +0100, a écrit : > > > > Note: add -no-kvm-irqchip if you have problems with kvm. > > > > It's not really "if",

Re: GSoC Mentors

2011-03-29 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 01:18:28PM +0200, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: > The procedure is a bit quirky; took me a while to figure out. First, > go to > >http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2011/gnu > > There you should see a "Register" button. Once you are done with that

wiki (was: Installing Debian GNU/Hurd in qemu/kvm using the Debian Installer (first draft))

2011-03-29 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:15:21AM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: > I don't even know what a .mdwn page is. "markdown" is one of the (several) simple text formats for writing documents with hyperlinks and basic markup. > Why not plain .html? HTML was never meant to be writte by hand. Also, t

Re: Installing Debian GNU/Hurd in qemu/kvm using the Debian Installer (first draft)

2011-03-29 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:27:31AM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: > Attached is the first draft on how to install and run Debian GNU/Hurd > using the Debian Installer. Great, thanks! :-) Will have to be turned into markdown though to add it to the wiki... > Enable VTx and VTd Actually, VTd

Re: GDB testsuite vs. /hurd/term

2011-03-29 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 12:45:11AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > The GDB testsuite uses the expect program to control a GDB process > (testee). These are connected via a pseudo terminal, by /hurd/term. > Sooner or later, some action (of expect, of GDB, of ...) confuses the > term server th

Re: XKB's keymaps for the Hurd console

2011-03-29 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 06:32:52PM -0300, Diego Nieto Cid wrote: > Finally, after doing some cleaning, here is the formal submission of > the code resulting from integrating Marco Gerards' driver with the > existing keyboard driver and fixing some bugs. Great, thanks :-) > [...] and the int

Re: Installing Debian GNU/Hurd in qemu/kvm using the Debian Installer (first draft)

2011-03-29 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:46:36AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Svante Signell, le Wed 23 Mar 2011 10:27:31 +0100, a écrit : > > Note: add -no-kvm-irqchip if you have problems with kvm. > > It's not really "if", it is "you will have problems if you don't add > it" ... unless running an o

Re: forwarded proposal to finance some hurd work

2011-03-29 Thread Tanguy LE CARROUR
2011/3/29 Samuel Thibault > Arne Babenhauserheide, le Tue 29 Mar 2011 18:05:32 +0200, a écrit : > > For me it sould be like : hey guys, can one of you take a week off and > work > > 100% on the Hurd?... we pay you for that! :-D > I just can't take a week off. Money is not the issue. > The worst t

Re: forwarded proposal to finance some hurd work

2011-03-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Tanguy LE CARROUR, le Tue 29 Mar 2011 18:28:26 +0200, a écrit : > What about the students of the GSoC? Do they get paid? Sure they do. > Can't we "hire" more?! As many as Google gives us. And they are not really like maintainers, they need to get mentored etc. Samuel

Re: forwarded proposal to finance some hurd work

2011-03-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Arne Babenhauserheide, le Tue 29 Mar 2011 18:05:32 +0200, a écrit : > For me it sould be like : hey guys, can one of you take a week off and work > 100% on the Hurd?... we pay you for that! :-D I just can't take a week off. Money is not the issue. Samuel

forwarded proposal to finance some hurd work

2011-03-29 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
forwarded from help-hurd On Sunday 27 March 2011 16:04:55 Tanguy LE CARROUR wrote: Hi, 2011/3/26 Robert Brockway > Quite a number of organisations exist to manage the finances of OSS > projects, eg SPI[1]. The "problem" is how do the developers get the money if they are not "officially working

Re: Installing Debian GNU/Hurd in qemu/kvm using the Debian Installer (first draft)

2011-03-29 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hallo! On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 21:32:43 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 13:09 +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > > I filed a clarification request upstream: > > . > > Thanks. However, not yet seeing any changes when clicking on the ed

[GSoC] Implementing libcap

2011-03-29 Thread Esa-Matti Mourujärvi
Hello, I'm interested in applying for Hurd in GSoC. I am a second year CS student in University of Oulu, Finland. I have knowledge of C to some extend, but I have never developed anything big with it on my own. On another note, I have used non-windows operating systems only for a year, but I am ea

Re: [PATCH] gnumach: kern: kalloc optimization for constant size requests

2011-03-29 Thread Maksym Planeta
I'm very sorry, this patch doesn't work. I've sent it by mistake. I'll resend it later. -- Thanks, Maksym Planeta

[PATCH] gnumach: kern: kalloc optimization for constant size requests

2011-03-29 Thread Maksym Planeta
If request's object size is know at compile time than zone where it will be placed can be determined at this time. There was added a wrapper which determines, whether size is constant or variable. It works similarly to linux's kmalloc in linux/slab_def.h To some of variables which don't change th