Re: GSoC application deadline passed

On 17/03/2008, Samuel Thibault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Arne Babenhauserheide, le Mon 17 Mar 2008 12:26:30 +0100, a écrit : > > > > As for automatically building live CDs and/or qemu images, this would be > > > very useful -- maybe that part is indeed an appropriate task for GSoC. > > > But a

Re: accepted to SoC

Hello! On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:16:04PM +, James Youngman wrote: > Great news. I also note that gEDA, GCC and Hurd were also accepted. Indeed GNU Hurd has been accepted. All credit is due to Olaf Buddenhagen, who wrote up the application, project proposals, etc. and handed this stuff in

Re: Developer Blog

Hello! On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:20:38AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > El Monday, 17 de March de 2008 10:02:21 pietro escribió: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 04:23:34PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > > >> A developer blog (i.e. something which is shared by all

Re: News in the wiki

Hello! On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:01:41PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > How do you think about writing news inside the wiki? > > I just found the debian FAQ in the wiki, and it looks like it would provide a > great base for that: > > http://www.bddebian.com/~wiki/hurd/running/debian/f

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

Hello! On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 07:48:25AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 06:20:10PM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > > First: I'm still alive! And even doing well! > > Good news ;-) Yes. :-) > It's just really bad luck, you absence at this very time... You are > ind

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

Hello! On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 09:03:30AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Oh, and yes: Amazingly, I actually managed to hand in my^H^Hour > application before the deadline. What is to be done now is waiting to > see whether I^Hwe get accepted. We've been. Olaf, congratulations!

Re: Thread model

On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 08:25 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 03:56:47PM -0400, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > > The clever way is to identify the particular things in the stack which > > must be saved, and throw the rest away, and then restart the > > continuatio

Re: Thread model (was: Ext2 superblock fault)

Thomas Bushnell BSG, le Mon 17 Mar 2008 15:09:12 -0400, a écrit : > > On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 08:52 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:19:32AM +, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], le Tue 11 Mar 2008 04:53:45 +0100, a écrit : > > > > > > [I]

Re: Thread model (was: Ext2 superblock fault)

On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 08:52 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:19:32AM +, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], le Tue 11 Mar 2008 04:53:45 +0100, a écrit : > > > > [I] suggested a more adaptive approach: Keep track of the existing > > > threads, and

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

Arne Babenhauserheide, le Mon 17 Mar 2008 12:26:30 +0100, a écrit : > > As for automatically building live CDs and/or qemu images, this would be > > very useful -- maybe that part is indeed an appropriate task for GSoC. > > But as others pointed out, there are often issues with building a > > worki

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

El Sunday, 16 de March de 2008 20:55:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: > > But there is something I direly miss in the HURD, and that doesn't > > have anything to do with its actual code, but with how it can be > > accessed and seen. > > > > When we had the HURD in my informatics class, one task was t

News in the wiki

Hi, How do you think about writing news inside the wiki? I just found the debian FAQ in the wiki, and it looks like it would provide a great base for that: http://www.bddebian.com/~wiki/hurd/running/debian/faq/ Would the wiki have the power to be the main Hurd page? If so, then the news c

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

Arne Babenhauserheide, le Mon 17 Mar 2008 10:37:56 +0100, a écrit : > > That said, we are doing much better with tracking bugs, but we could do > > even better I guess. This is maybe something people do not necessarily > > need a deep understanding of the codebase to help. > > Is the list of bugs

Re: Thread model (was: Ext2 superblock fault)

[EMAIL PROTECTED], le Sun 16 Mar 2008 08:52:56 +0100, a écrit : > On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:19:32AM +, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], le Tue 11 Mar 2008 04:53:45 +0100, a écrit : > > > > [I] suggested a more adaptive approach: Keep track of the existing > > > threads, and if no

Re: Developer Blog

El Monday, 17 de March de 2008 10:02:21 pietro escribió: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 04:23:34PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > >> A developer blog (i.e. something which is shared by all the active > >> developers, and only has entries regarding current developm

Re: Thread model

At Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:01:22 +0100, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:10:17PM +0100, Neal H. Walfield wrote: > > > > using some kind of continuation mechanism: Have a limited number of > > > threads (ideally one per CPU) handle incoming requests. Whenever > > > some operatio

Re: Thread model

At Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:21:19 +0100, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 05:12:03PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > As for the threading model, more than one kernel thread per real CPU > > doesn't seem to make much sense in most cases. > > Well, add a "per processing step" to

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

El Friday, 14 de March de 2008 16:23:34 Michael Banck escribió: > A developer blog (i.e. something which is shared by all the active > developers, and only has entries regarding current developments) might > be interesting (just commit messages aren't so much, because in a GNU > tradition, they usu

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

El Sunday, 16 de March de 2008 18:44:14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: > But maybe you are right. Maybe it was silly of me to assume that just > because certain people consider themselfs part of the community, claim > to care about the Hurd; because there is a chance to bring this project > forward at

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

El Sunday, 16 de March de 2008 11:51:31 [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 02:49:22PM +, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > I found Olaf's mail was actually quite diplomatic, considering the > > very low help he got on this. > > Indeed :-) I tried to wrap my disappointment in a lot o

Re: Developer Blog

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 04:23:34PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: A developer blog (i.e. something which is shared by all the active developers, and only has entries regarding current developments) might be interesting Sounds interesting indeed. Are you willing to

Re: Wiki slowness

El Saturday, 15 de March de 2008 15:11:21 Carl Fredrik Hammar escribió: > Ikiwiki seems to recompile markdown to html after every change. If it > unnecessarily recompiles the *entire* wiki after each edit or if git > is very io intensive, the slowness might be related to the problems in > diskfs.

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

Hi, On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 06:20:10PM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > First: I'm still alive! And even doing well! Good news ;-) > Sorry for my absence. I was really busy with preparing for my > university exams and real life and there really wasn't any quality > time left for doing GNU stuf

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

Hi, On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 02:49:22PM +, Samuel Thibault wrote: > I found Olaf's mail was actually quite diplomatic, considering the > very low help he got on this. Indeed :-) I tried to wrap my disappointment in a lot of irony, hoping that it would stick, but not seem to bitter a reproach.

Re: Thread model

Hi, On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 03:56:47PM -0400, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > The clever way is to identify the particular things in the stack which > must be saved, and throw the rest away, and then restart the > continuation with the few things that really matter. This is what the > kernel does i

Re: Thread model (was: Ext2 superblock fault)

Hi, On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:19:32AM +, Samuel Thibault wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED], le Tue 11 Mar 2008 04:53:45 +0100, a écrit : > > [I] suggested a more adaptive approach: Keep track of the existing > > threads, and if none of them makes progress in a certain amount of > > time (say 100 ms

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

Hi, On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 04:02:37PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 02:16:31PM +, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Actually, while reading the proposal, I thought "well, that mostly > > means advertising the K* CDs" > > Which is where I failed. I wrote up an announcement,

Roadmap etc. (was: GSoC application deadline passed)

Hi, On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 03:58:33PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > El Friday, 14 de March de 2008 15:08:31 Carl Fredrik Hammar escribió: > > Most of the recent changes has been on the L4 branch, which was > > originally an attempt to port Hurd to the L4 micro kernel. That > > didn't wo

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

Hi, On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 10:02:56AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > I'm sorry I didn't contribute. > > First of all I didn't think I could really help, since my knowledge of > HURD internals is limited to some surface stuff (that's what you learn > in informatics courses). I'm sorry

Re: Google Summer of Code participation

Hi, On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:03:29PM +0100, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > You would soon have to decide whether you want to apply as student > > again, or mentor the project. (Or just do it independently as you > > planned...) It's not possible to do both :-) > >

Re: Thread model

Hi, On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:10:17PM +0100, Neal H. Walfield wrote: > > using some kind of continuation mechanism: Have a limited number of > > threads (ideally one per CPU) handle incoming requests. Whenever > > some operation would require blocking for some event (in the case of > > diskfs,

Re: Wiki slowness

Hi, On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 02:52:04PM +, Samuel Thibault wrote: > BTW, I wonder why the wiki modifications should be so slow. Are there > so many things to do in the wiki engine to perform that action? Seems that updating the HTML pages is really so slow. On my Hurd machine (1 GHz P3, 512

Developer Blog (was: GSoC application deadline passed)

Hi, On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 04:23:34PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > A developer blog (i.e. something which is shared by all the active > developers, and only has entries regarding current developments) might > be interesting Sounds interesting indeed. Are you willing to take care of that? :-)

Re: Thread model

Hi, On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 05:12:03PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > As for the threading model, more than one kernel thread per real CPU > doesn't seem to make much sense in most cases. Well, add a "per processing step" to make this statement more generally true. In some cases, it's useful t

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

Hi, On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 08:38:14AM -0600, Michael Heath wrote: > People had their reasons or lack of motivation for contributing or > participating. But motivation enough for complaining about my lovely little mail? :-) > A responsible person would (at least in the future) choose the logica

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

Hi, On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 03:08:31PM +0100, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote: > Now to a real issue. While there's nothing wrong with the project as > such (in fact it's quite a good idea), I think most of the project is > more in the domain of distributions, e.g. Debian, rather then the Hurd > itsel