bug#47846: Feature Request: Add ability to disable having cache or generations

2021-04-19 Thread bo0od
> It is common enough for desktop PCs and laptops, which is the use case > I'm talking about here. The entire feature im requesting is not for common things but for specific use cases. > I'm fairly certain you should be able to get test environments, that > fit this size via `guix environment'

bug#47846: Feature Request: Add ability to disable having cache or generations

2021-04-18 Thread Leo Prikler
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 18.04.2021, 18:45 + schrieb bo0od: > > My bad, I meant to type 500GB (a fairly common disk size), but it > turns > > out my other laptop survives quite fine on 250. Fair enough, it's > not > > 32GB (common in phones), but then again, you'd run normally very > > differe

bug#47846: Feature Request: Add ability to disable having cache or generations

2021-04-18 Thread bo0od
> My bad, I meant to type 500GB (a fairly common disk size), but it turns > out my other laptop survives quite fine on 250. Fair enough, it's not > 32GB (common in phones), but then again, you'd run normally very > different packages on embedded systems. yeah 100+ GB thats too big, not always ha

bug#47846: Feature Request: Add ability to disable having cache or generations

2021-04-18 Thread bo0od
> There isn't really any caching Im calling the saved old versions of software cache, So if there is better term to use good. >* P1 is kept around in case the user isn't satisfied, or is feeling nastolgic > or something Yeah this is what im suggesting to have ability to disable thi

bug#47846: Feature Request: Add ability to disable having cache or generations

2021-04-18 Thread Leo Prikler
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 18.04.2021, 14:40 + schrieb bo0od: > > There is no active caching going on. > > Not sure what do you mean by this. Exactly what I said. There is a philosophical difference between a store, that keeps items as long as there's a referrer and a cache, which keeps some items

bug#47846: Feature Request: Add ability to disable having cache or generations

2021-04-18 Thread bo0od
> There is no active caching going on. Not sure what do you mean by this. > but on a desktop with 500MB storage, you can keep several months of that around if you want to. Im using 20GB+9GB swap, its nightmare you cant just upgrade without each and everytime delete cache. So no, Sorry The stat

bug#47846: Feature Request: Add ability to disable having cache or generations

2021-04-18 Thread Maxime Devos
Maxime Devos schreef op za 17-04-2021 om 22:07 [+0200]: > bo0od schreef op za 17-04-2021 om 18:29 [+]: > > > > [...] > > - Bloating the disk size > > About 200 GiB or so in my case, though admittedly that's partially because > I never run "guix gc" or that command for deleting old generations

bug#47846: Feature Request: Add ability to disable having cache or generations

2021-04-17 Thread Maxime Devos
bo0od schreef op za 17-04-2021 om 18:29 [+]: > Hi There, > > Current situation with the guix distro upgrade is:(as i understand) > > A) User Packages: whenever there is an upgrade to package A version 1 to > new Version lets call it A version 2 , So the process is ADD A2 → SWITCH > to A2 →

bug#47846: Feature Request: Add ability to disable having cache or generations

2021-04-17 Thread Leo Prikler
Hi, Am Samstag, den 17.04.2021, 18:29 + schrieb bo0od: > Hi There, > > Current situation with the guix distro upgrade is:(as i understand) > > A) User Packages: whenever there is an upgrade to package A version 1 > to > new Version lets call it A version 2 , So the process is ADD A2 → > SWIT

bug#47846: Feature Request: Add ability to disable having cache or generations

2021-04-17 Thread Leo Famulari
On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 06:29:56PM +, bo0od wrote: > - Questionable security of the saved old versions. As it depend if they have > access to suid or not (i didnt investigate this, but if they have then thats > big problem but this is not the ticket to discuss it) They do not.

bug#47846: Feature Request: Add ability to disable having cache or generations

2021-04-17 Thread bo0od
Hi There, Current situation with the guix distro upgrade is:(as i understand) A) User Packages: whenever there is an upgrade to package A version 1 to new Version lets call it A version 2 , So the process is ADD A2 → SWITCH to A2 → Cache A1 and so on. B) System Packages: Same process but it