bug#22629: Channels not needed for a stable branch

2018-08-30 Thread Konrad Hinsen
Hi Mark, > I'm not sure what you're trying to argue above. To me, it looks like an > argument in favor of my position, namely that a stable version of Guix > should include _all_ of Guix, not just the packages. All, probably not, some, probably yes. What I am arguing is that the productive coexi

bug#22629: Channels not needed for a stable branch

2018-08-29 Thread Mark H Weaver
Konrad Hinsen writes: >> I also agree with you that we don’t need channels for providing a stable >> branch. The biggest obstacle to providing a stable branch is not >> technical, but it requires people maintaining it. > > Look at this from the opposite end: if you were interested in > maintaini

bug#22629: Channels not needed for a stable branch (was: Channels!)

2018-08-29 Thread Konrad Hinsen
Hi Ricardo, > I also agree with you that we don’t need channels for providing a stable > branch. The biggest obstacle to providing a stable branch is not > technical, but it requires people maintaining it. Look at this from the opposite end: if you were interested in maintaining a stable softwar

bug#22629: Channels not needed for a stable branch

2018-08-29 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello Guix, Mark H Weaver skribis: > Both of you seem to have reached the conclusion that third-party > channels are a prerequisite for having a 'stable' branch. I disagree. Same here. We could already be doing that (I’m skeptical about the feasibility, maintainability, and relevance of a “st

bug#22629: Channels not needed for a stable branch (was: Channels!)

2018-08-29 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Hi Mark, > I'd like to say again that I have grave concerns that this could be the > death-knell for long-term innovation in Guix. It's likely that whenever > a change is proposed that will break these third-party channels, there > will be resistance, and efforts to preserve backward compatibil

bug#22629: Channels not needed for a stable branch (was: Channels!)

2018-08-29 Thread Mark H Weaver
Hi, Alex Sassmannshausen writes: > My primary interest in channels at the moment comes from believing that > having a "stable" channel would be incredibly useful to increase > adoption rate of Guix. And for me. Konrad Hinsen writes: > Look at the wider Linux world: there are people who want to