Re: future Python evolution

2024-04-28 Thread Bernhard Voelker
On 4/21/24 16:50, Bruno Haible wrote: Good point. Yes, Python occasionally (rarely?) makes incompatible changes. So, I've now created a continuous integration at [2]. If a Python release is made that breaks gnulib-tool, this CI will notify me shortly afterwards, and we will have time to adapt gnu

Re: future Python evolution

2024-04-22 Thread Paul Eggert
On 2024-04-21 15:38, Bruno Haible wrote: Hi Paul, But the concepts of the shell are stuck in the 40-years-ago past. True, but keeping things simple allows for optimizations like PaSH that can't reasonably be done to Python. https://binpa.sh/ Well, I did try PaSh on gnulib-tool — this issue

Re: future Python evolution

2024-04-21 Thread Bruno Haible
Hi Paul, > > But the concepts of the shell are stuck in the 40-years-ago past. > > True, but keeping things simple allows for optimizations like PaSH that > can't reasonably be done to Python. > > https://binpa.sh/ Well, I did try PaSh on gnulib-tool — this issue [1] is a testimony. But what

Re: future Python evolution

2024-04-21 Thread Bernhard Voelker
On 4/21/24 16:50, Bruno Haible wrote: Bernhard Voelker wrote: But the concepts of the shell are stuck in the 40-years-ago past. Hehe, Python also had its 33rd birthday already. :-) Good point. Yes, Python occasionally (rarely?) makes incompatible changes. So, I've now created a continuous

Re: future Python evolution

2024-04-21 Thread Paul Eggert
On 2024-04-21 07:50, Bruno Haible wrote: But the concepts of the shell are stuck in the 40-years-ago past. True, but keeping things simple allows for optimizations like PaSH that can't reasonably be done to Python. https://binpa.sh/

Re: future Python evolution

2024-04-21 Thread Bruno Haible
Bernhard Voelker wrote: > The shell seems have to been more safe in that regard. But the concepts of the shell are stuck in the 40-years-ago past. That's why it is not recommendable as a programming language for real programs [1]. > I'd guess most hosts have python installed nowadays ... the ques