Re: [PATCH] Don't use the abbreviation "win" to refer to Windows.

2012-01-06 Thread Bruno Haible
Paul Eggert wrote: > Thanks, that looks good to me too. Thanks for the review. I've pushed it. Bruno

Re: [PATCH] Don't use the abbreviation "win" to refer to Windows.

2012-01-06 Thread Paul Eggert
Thanks, that looks good to me too.

Re: [PATCH] Don't use the abbreviation "win" to refer to Windows.

2012-01-06 Thread Bruno Haible
> A second, separate patch could be applied to reduce the number of uses > of the term "Woe32" (optional). Here's the proposed patch to remove most uses of "Woe32". 2012-01-06 Bruno Haible Talk about "native Windows API", not "Woe32". * lib/accept4.c: Update comments to menti

Re: [PATCH] Don't use the abbreviation "win" to refer to Windows.

2012-01-04 Thread Paul Eggert
On 01/04/12 05:43, Bruno Haible wrote: >> * lib/poll.c mentions "Win9x" and "WinXP". >> * lib/select.c is similar. > > Agreed. OK, thanks, I pushed those comment changes. > I'm really not a fan of rewriting history. Nor am I, and I guess you're right that it's not worth it here. I left that

Re: [PATCH] Don't use the abbreviation "win" to refer to Windows.

2012-01-04 Thread Bruno Haible
Paul Eggert wrote: > > Here's my counter-proposal (attached). > > Thanks, that looks pretty good. OK, I've committed that. > I see three files that still need work, though: > > * lib/poll.c mentions "Win9x" and "WinXP". > * lib/select.c is similar. Agreed. > * ChangeLog entries needed. >

Re: [PATCH] Don't use the abbreviation "win" to refer to Windows.

2012-01-04 Thread Paul Eggert
space is available for + atomic writes. */ memset (&iosb, 0, sizeof (iosb)); memset (&fpli, 0, sizeof (fpli)); diff --git a/ChangeLog b/ChangeLog index 2e2c71b..1b414f3 100644 --- a/ChangeLog +++ b/ChangeLog @@ -1,3 +1,24 @@ +2012-01-03 Paul Eggert

Re: [PATCH] Don't use the abbreviation "win" to refer to Windows.

2012-01-03 Thread Stefano Lattarini
On 01/03/2012 12:59 AM, Bruno Haible wrote: > > [A GOOD PROPOSAL] > Thanks for this carefully thought-out proposal. My only 2 cents of advice is to report in the commit message of your patch the useful and extensive arguments, explanations and references you have laid out so excellently in your ma

Re: [PATCH] Don't use the abbreviation "win" to refer to Windows.

2012-01-03 Thread Paolo Bonzini
On 01/03/2012 12:59 AM, Bruno Haible wrote: Hi Paul, Attached is a proposed Gnulib patch to fix some occurrences of the "win" terminology problem. It mostly just substitutes "Woe32" for "Win32", except that for "Win32 API" it substitutes "Windows API". It's good to clean up some of these ter

Re: Don't use the abbreviation "win" to refer to Windows.

2012-01-03 Thread Paolo Bonzini
On 01/02/2012 11:57 PM, Paul Eggert wrote: Anyway, impressing people is not the main goal here. The main goal is to come up with a useful name that doesn't praise the Windows API or operating environment. "win32" is not the right choice for that, we must use something better, and there is a propo

Re: [PATCH] Don't use the abbreviation "win" to refer to Windows.

2012-01-03 Thread Paolo Bonzini
On 01/03/2012 12:59 AM, Bruno Haible wrote: 1) It contrasts with the NtDll API.[2] For example, file names passed to NtDll functions can use a different syntax than file names passed to Win32 functions.[3] This distinction matters because programs build with gnulib should als

Re: Don't use the abbreviation "win" to refer to Windows.

2012-01-03 Thread Andy Moreton
On Mon 02 Jan 2012, Bruno Haible wrote: > It's good to clean up some of these terms once in a decade, yes. > > I'm largely responsible of this issue: I started using "Woe32" > instead of "Win32", out of frustration when porting GNU clisp to > this platform, and mimicking the word "MS-DOG" found in

Re: Don't use the abbreviation "win" to refer to Windows.

2012-01-02 Thread Paul Eggert
On 01/02/12 12:27, Andy Moreton wrote: > win32 is a widely accepted term It's not accepted as part of the GNU coding standards, and even Microsoft prefers a different name for the API. Even aside from the problematic connotation of "win", "win32" is a dated term, and is heading down the path that

Re: Don't use the abbreviation "win" to refer to Windows.

2012-01-02 Thread Andy Moreton
On Mon 02 Jan 2012, Paul Eggert wrote: > On 01/02/12 05:53, Andy Moreton wrote: > >> Using the term "win32" does not connote winning or losing > > No doubt it has that connotation only to some people, and not to > others. But we should be communicating to as many people as > possible, including t

Re: Don't use the abbreviation "win" to refer to Windows.

2012-01-02 Thread Paul Eggert
On 01/02/12 05:53, Andy Moreton wrote: > Microsoft themselves rarely refer to it as the "Windows API" My impression is otherwise. For what it's worth, the Google search '"Windows API' site:microsoft.com' has about 68,900 hits, which is nearly as many hits as "Win32 API" at the same site. And ou

Re: Don't use the abbreviation "win" to refer to Windows.

2012-01-02 Thread Stefano Lattarini
On 01/02/2012 02:53 PM, Andy Moreton wrote: > > Using the term "win32" does not connote winning or losing to any but the > most paranoid. Replacing proprietary software with free software is done > by being better: that includes being courteous, and not using derogatory > language. The term "woe32"

Re: Don't use the abbreviation "win" to refer to Windows.

2012-01-02 Thread Andy Moreton
On Mon 02 Jan 2012, Paul Eggert wrote: > Attached is a proposed Gnulib patch to fix some occurrences of > the "win" terminology problem. > > It mostly just substitutes "Woe32" for "Win32", except that for > "Win32 API" it substitutes "Windows API". The Microsoft overview of the API >