Re: Bug#474436: coreutils: "ls --time-style=locale" no longer works

2008-04-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 12:56:19PM -0400, Bo Borgerson wrote: On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Jim Meyering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks. That feels pretty kludgy. I hope we end up with something cleaner. Yeah, I suppose so. Short of including `translations' for English, though, what'

Re: Bug#497514: coreutils: chmod, chown, and chgrp change ctime even when no change was necessary

2008-09-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 09:51:04PM +0200, Jim Meyering wrote: That sounds like a good reason to retain the behavior you've come to value, even if it's not guaranteed or portable, but only via a new option. Then we can still change the default to be more efficient. Why on earth would we want to

Re: Bug#472590: RFC: changing the "+" in ls -l output to be "." or "+"

2008-10-27 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 09:19:07AM -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: Speaking as a fairly new SELinux user/admin, having a "." next to every file in my ls output is just as useful or non-useful as having a "+" next to them, so does it really buy anything? It buys something if you're unaware that s

Re: Bug#294206: stat(1) unclear about block size

2005-02-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 03:39:05PM +, James Youngman wrote: No.The POSIX standard (in a non-normative section) says :- | The unit for the st_blocks member of the stat structure is not defined | within IEEE Std 1003.1-2001. In some implementations it is 512 | bytes. It may differ on a file s

Re: Bug#294206: stat(1) unclear about block size

2005-02-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 01:56:00PM -0800, Paul Eggert wrote: OK, thanks, I installed this (revised) patch into coreutils, which I hope addresses that problem. No, if you're going to use the statvfs block size you need to pull the other numbers from statvfs also. IOW, just add another flag (-F?) to

Re: Bug#160849: coreutils: bug report for GNU Core Utils

2005-06-24 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 11:17:20AM -0600, you wrote: The second option that I recommend is to deprecate this option entirely and remove it from the code base. I think it's safe to say that a number of these utilities have gotten more flags than they strictly need. Pruning may be a good thing.

Re: Bug#339136: Changes in stat package output break apt-move

2005-11-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 11:42:12AM +0100, Jim Meyering wrote: With stat, a specified format is no longer automatically newline terminated. If you want a newline at the end of your output, append `\n' to the format string. Hmm. I don't know if I like this change--it really screws with compata

Re: Bug#339136: Changes in stat package output break apt-move

2005-11-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 12:27:57PM +0100, Jim Meyering wrote: I do see your point of view, since the `stat' program doesn't feel very new, now. But back when I made the change, it *was* relatively new. Not in debian. I'll have to think about whether I want the debian package to maintain compat

Re: Bug#339136: Changes in stat package output break apt-move

2005-11-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 11:42:12AM +0100, Jim Meyering wrote: Unfortunately, no one reported the problem before this. Which IMO suggests that nobody cares for the new behavior, whereas we have a demonstrable dependency on the old behavior. Between debian & fedora & rhel I'd say that there's a f

Re: Bug#339136: Changes in stat package output break apt-move

2005-11-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 03:14:27PM +0100, Jim Meyering wrote: But there *is* a way. It's just that the portable solution doesn't fit on one line: That falls into the "truely hideous" category, imo. :) Mike Stone ___ Bug-coreutils mailing list Bug-

Re: Bug#353911: md5sum --check checks only if _all_ are bad

2006-02-23 Thread Michael Stone
x27;s in a readme file without having to strip the descriptive text. -- Michael Stone ___ Bug-coreutils mailing list Bug-coreutils@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-coreutils

Re: Bug#545422: coreutils: "tail -f -" fails

2009-09-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 05:15:58PM +0200, Jim Meyering wrote: Giuseppe Scrivano wrote: This patch changes `tail' to handle stdin separately from inotify events, similar to what we are already doing when a --pid is specified. This sounds good in principle, but it's too invasive for 7.6. I'll lo

debian coreutils patches

2009-09-10 Thread Michael Stone
9-03-29 13:43:41.0 -0400 +++ coreutils-7.2/src/stty.c2009-04-07 21:11:35.096288547 -0400 @@ -279,10 +279,18 @@ {"cr0", output, SANE_SET, CR0, CRDLY}, #endif #ifdef TABDLY +#ifdef TAB3 {"tab3", output, SANE_UNSET, TAB3, TABDLY}, +#endif +#ifdef TAB2 {"

Re: Bug#565218: info boilerplate on man page gives only the hard way

2010-01-14 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:15:48AM +0800, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: So, that's why I suggested saying __both__ methods. But you already closed the bug before reading to the end. No, I read all the way to the end. I don't think the boilerplate needs to be any longer than it is. Mike Stone

tests/misc/ls-time

2010-01-16 Thread Michael Stone
It seems that touch -a does update ctime on btrfs, invalidating one of the assumptions behind this test and causing it to fail. Mike Stone

Re: tests/misc/ls-time

2010-01-17 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 09:59:46AM +0100, Andreas Schwab wrote: Michael Stone writes: It seems that touch -a does update ctime on btrfs, invalidating one of the assumptions behind this test and causing it to fail. Did you mean "does not update ctime"? Yes. My eyes are starting t

Re: tests/misc/ls-time

2010-01-17 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:08:23AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: But then I also have a build log (https://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?&pkg=coreutils&ver=8.1-1&arch=amd64&stamp=1261006367&file=log) with a different failure, which is what I thought I'd duplicated last

Re: Bug#569020: coreutils: failure of install-C test on GNU/kFreeBSD

2010-02-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 05:33:04PM +0100, Petr Salinger wrote: the current coreutils fails to build on GNU/kFreeBSD. Under 7.2 kernel 9 test fails, under 8.0 kernel 1 test fail. The failure under 7.2 kernel is due to limitation of chroot and bind mounts, it is solved in 8.0 kernel. Cool. I fin

Re: Bug#569020: coreutils: failure of install-C test on GNU/kFreeBSD

2010-02-10 Thread Michael Stone
Figures that I get completely different results with kfreebsd 8 kernel. (Presumably the install test isn't an issue because my user doesn't have multiple groups--will still look at that.) tests/tail-2/inotify-hash-abuse2 fails, which I'm not even sure is relevant. (No inotify; maybe have the t

Re: Bug#569020: coreutils: failure of install-C test on GNU/kFreeBSD

2010-02-10 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:19:27PM +, Pádraig Brady wrote: That test should pass irrespective of inotify availability. I've spun it for 20 mins now on linux with inotify disabled without issue: while true; do (cd tests && make check TESTS=tail-2/inotify-hash-abuse2 VERBOSE=yes) || break do

Re: coreutils 6.0

2006-08-16 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 08:18:27AM +0200, Jim Meyering wrote: What version of Linux is that? 2.6.17 From the name of the directory, it's probably a tmpfs file system. actually it's xfs. it's inside a pbuilder chroot, so the mtab is going to be completely bogus (I think mount would report /

Re: coreutils 6.0

2006-08-16 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 11:38:28AM +0200, Jim Meyering wrote: Ok. Then I'll use a more robust test for file system type. This also relaxes the test to run if "." is an ext2 file system. Does this patch solve the problem? looks like it Mike Stone _

Re: Bug#393283: RFC: change chown *not* to look up numeric user/group names

2006-10-19 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 11:29:23AM +0200, Jim Meyering wrote: My motivation for making this change is mainly security. The paranoid user of chown (usually root) should not have to imagine that a numeric user name argument like "1000" might be interpreted as a name and mapped to "0". Can anyone p

Re: mv symlink-to-dir/, debian bug feed

2008-01-26 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 07:23:08PM +0100, Jim Meyering wrote: I know Bob Proulx is already subscribed there. Some of the traffic would not be interesting, i.e., a message announcing that a bug is closed, or tagged -- but those are easy to skip. Overall, I think it would be better for both Debian

Re: Bug#388684: coreutils: "info ls" opens the man page, not the info documentation

2008-01-27 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 01:34:36PM -0600, Karl Berry wrote: What this report really says to me is that the dir file was not correctly created by the Debian (or whatever) installation process. Oh, without a doubt. The debian install-info routine (IIRC) predates the gnu install-info, and hasn't

Re: Bug#388684: coreutils: "info ls" opens the man page, not the info documentation

2008-01-27 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 09:30:51PM +0100, Jim Meyering wrote: Yes, that is the root of the problem. It came down to a dispute about which of two install-info programs should be installed. I'm amazed that it's lasted so long (it seems it's been at least two years, now). I don't think it's a dis

Re: Bug#388684: coreutils: "info ls" opens the man page, not the info documentation

2008-01-27 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 06:51:54PM -0600, Karl Berry wrote: mstone> The debian install-info routine (IIRC) predates the gnu install-info, That wasn't my understanding, but I never actually researched it. I was not aware of any Debian ii at the time that rms wrote GNU ii (I was maintaini

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: coreutils problem]

2008-01-28 Thread Michael Stone
I can readily duplicate this bug report on a 2.6.24-rc7 kernel by running `ls -l /proc/sys/fs/inotify` Kernel bug? libselinux bug? Documentation bug? I suppose coreutils should check that the returned context is non-NULL. It looks like the debian 5.97-5.3 selinux patch (derived from redhat)

bug#9568: Bug#642291: FTBFS on powerpc: misc/seq-long-double test fails, should be skipped

2011-09-21 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:18:47AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: The test fails because it doesn't pass $CFLAGS to the compiler. The attached patch fixes this, so the test is skipped as expected. The point wasn't to skip the test, it was to fix the bug. :-) Unfortunately, the CFLAGS change doesn

bug#9573: Bug#642291: FTBFS on powerpc: misc/seq-long-double test fails, should be skipped

2011-09-22 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:58:37AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: The skip message contains 'this test runs only on systems with [...] long double != double', which isn't satisfied with -mlong-double-64, is it? See the output samples; the prior version worked fine at this boundary, the new versio

bug#15757: new uname.c for uname -p fix related

2013-11-01 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 01:46:33AM +0530, Jeffrin Jose wrote: i have patched debian source from sid for file uname.c for debian coreutils. For what it's worth, I stand by what I wrote in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=193170 in 2007 and still don't see any reason for -i and

bug#18428: Bug#760861: bug#18428: coreutils binary breaks coreutils documentation

2014-09-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 06:10:35PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: But I think in recent years the install-info problems have been fixed. Perhaps we don't need to do any of this anymore? Or perhaps finally getting to the canonical (FILENAME)NODE-WITHIN-FILE form we have finally arrived at the end and s

bug#18428: Bug#760861: bug#18428: Bug#760861: bug#18428: coreutils binary breaks coreutils documentation

2014-09-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 03:31:35PM +0100, Pádraig Brady wrote: It's useful to many, but I agree most don't bother with it due to the awkward non intuitive default info reader _interface_ (though pinfo is a bit better in that regard). Right. I've heard the argument for 15 years that info docs ar

bug#20884: copying NFS4 ACLs portably

2015-06-23 Thread Michael Stone
I'm looking for some information before I run too far down this rathole. Currently cp --preserve=all will attempt to preserve both the unix modes and any ACL on a file. This seems to be working entirely as expected with a linux NFS4 client & server. If I attempt the same using a solaris server,

bug#20884: copying NFS4 ACLs portably

2015-06-23 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 05:39:14PM +0100, Pádraig Brady wrote: There have been recent changes in this area, so we need to know the version to help determine if this is a regression or was always an issue. 8.23, 8.13 On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 07:05:43PM +0200, Andreas Grünbacher wrote: I assume

bug#20884: copying NFS4 ACLs portably

2015-06-23 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 08:22:44PM +0200, Andreas Grünbacher wrote: Somewhat. The "system.nfs4_acl" attribute is nfs specific though: its format isn't well suited for other file systems. Adding support to gnulib would only make copying permissions on nfs work, not across different file system typ

bug#32127: RFE -- in the way "cp -rl" -- enable 'ln' to do likewise?

2018-07-17 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 01:25:59AM -0700, L A Walsh wrote: I am not suggesting handing out alternates when you have a choice. I'm suggesting doing something useful in a case where there are no alternates and no downsides. If you can come up with a case where a symlink to a directory wou

bug#32127: RFE -- in the way "cp -rl" -- enable 'ln' to do likewise?

2018-07-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 03:23:59AM -0700, L A Walsh wrote: In the case of creating a link to a directory there is no choice in creating a "working solution". If you want a link there, it HAS to be a symlink. That the user would bother to use the 'ln' (link) command in the first place

bug#62572: cp --no-clobber behavior has changed

2023-12-15 Thread Michael Stone
the old behavior. I am reluctant to do so as that will likely lead to divergent behavior between distributions, but breaking scripts without a compelling reason is also not good. I would encourage coreutils to reconsider the change and finding a non-breaking way forward. Michael Stone

bug#62572: cp --no-clobber behavior has changed

2023-12-15 Thread Michael Stone
that's because it has not yet been widely deployed, which makes now the time to fix it. Michael Stone

bug#62572: cp --no-clobber behavior has changed

2023-12-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 11:21:06AM -0800, Paul Eggert wrote: Stlll, Pádraig gave a reasonable summary of why the change was made, despite its incompatibility with previous behavior. (One thing I'd add is that the FreeBSD behavior is inherently less race-prone.) It seemed like a good idea at the

bug#62572: cp --no-clobber behavior has changed

2023-12-17 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 12:34:11AM -0800, Paul Eggert wrote: On 2023-12-16 13:46, Bernhard Voelker wrote: Whether the implementation is race-prone or not is an internal thing. I wasn't referring to the internal implementation. I was referring to cp users. With the newer Coreutils (FreeBSD) be

bug#62572: Bug#1058752: bug#62572: cp --no-clobber behavior has changed

2024-01-29 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 11:14:14PM -0800, Paul Eggert wrote: I'm not sure reverting would be best. It would introduce more confusion, and would make coreutils incompatible with FreeBSD again. Reverting makes more sense than the current situation. I do not understand why you seem to value FreeB

bug#62572: Bug#1058752: bug#62572: cp --no-clobber behavior has changed

2024-01-29 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 04:11:05PM +, Pádraig Brady wrote: You've introduced a silent incompatibility and I'm trying to find some way to make that clear. If upstream would provide a better solution I would certainly use it. I have despaired of there being such since your attitude thus far see

bug#73928: Bug#1080330: coreutils: who no longer works

2025-02-16 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 12:28:03AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: No data for xterm. Other terminals are affected too, such as GNOME Terminal. Yes, much of the data from the old utmp is simply not there. A sane transition would deprecate utmp in one release while adding a replacement, then rem

bug#73928: Bug#1080330: coreutils: who no longer works

2025-02-16 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 07:05:13PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: No, w(1) is broken (at least in sid). See the difference between "who" and "w" with systemd 256.7-1, i.e. before the upgrade of systemd that removed utmp support: That's because someone decided to suddenly remove an interface whic