Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

On Fri, Jun 21, 2024, 10:23 PM Chet Ramey wrote: > On 6/21/24 3:18 PM, alex xmb sw ratchev wrote: > > > i see a BASH_EXCLUDE_AVAR > > Where do you see that? > in vague maybe-true future visions .. regarding the -a , to exclude vars from that rule , .. greets .. -- > ``The lyf so short, the cr

Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

On 6/21/24 3:18 PM, alex xmb sw ratchev wrote: i see a BASH_EXCLUDE_AVAR Where do you see that? -- ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRUc...@case.eduhttp://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/

Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

On Fri, Jun 21, 2024, 8:58 PM Chet Ramey wrote: > On 6/15/24 10:28 AM, Oğuz wrote: > > > Yes. All I'm saying is, a variable that affects how certain programs > > behave when exported should not be implicitly exported by the shell, > > the user should do it manually if he wants. > > This is a non-

Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

On 6/14/24 3:28 AM, Alain BROSSARD wrote: COLUMN is clearly meant to be an internal variable of bash given the description of how it is used; This is definitely not the case. The man page describes how bash uses it, but many other programs use it as well. -- ``The lyf so short, the craft

Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

On 6/15/24 9:48 AM, Koichi Murase wrote: However, for the portable scripts, I now agree that it is a problem that Bash seems to enable `checkwinsize' even in the POSIX mode. Why? POSIX doesn't standardize shopt or the checkwinsize behavior; the shell is free to do whatever it wants. -- ``The

Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

On 6/15/24 10:28 AM, Oğuz wrote: Yes. All I'm saying is, a variable that affects how certain programs behave when exported should not be implicitly exported by the shell, the user should do it manually if he wants. This is a non-sequitur -- the entire reason for using `set -a' is to have every

Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

From: Alain BROSSARD | I did think about the case to parse the output, but this means that you | already know that the problem is triggered by calling an external program. I think there is some miscommunication going on here. The message I sent had nothing to do with the original problem

RE: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

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Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

On Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 4:59 PM Koichi Murase wrote: > Sorry, I think I misunderstood the part "behind the user's back". Now I > guess you were talking about the behavior of `checkwinsize' when `set > -a' is enabled? Yes. All I'm saying is, a variable that affects how certain programs behave when

Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

2024年6月15日(土) 22:48 Koichi Murase : > 2024年6月15日(土) 13:48 Oğuz : > > On Saturday, June 15, 2024, Koichi Murase wrote: > >> Also, the behavior of the `ps' command honoring COLUMNS to format its > >> output is also an expected one. > > > > The fact that programs giving precedence to COLUMNS over the

Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

2024年6月15日(土) 13:48 Oğuz : > On Saturday, June 15, 2024, Koichi Murase wrote: >> Also, the behavior of the `ps' command honoring COLUMNS to format its >> output is also an expected one. > > The fact that programs giving precedence to COLUMNS over the > terminal API are so common is an argument aga

Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

On Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 07:48:42AM +0300, Oğuz wrote: > Right now, if you're dealing with such a program while `set -a' is in > effect, in order to suppress COLUMNS you need to unexport it before every > command: Or just turn off checkwinsize.

Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

On Saturday, June 15, 2024, Koichi Murase wrote: > > Also, the behavior of the `ps' command honoring COLUMNS to format its > output is also an expected one. > The fact that programs giving precedence to COLUMNS over the terminal API are so common is an argument against exporting COLUMNS behind th

Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

2024年6月14日(金) 16:30 Alain BROSSARD : Even if the behavior of `set -a' is modified, your script (or the third-party script that you rely on?) is still broken when the user explicitly gives COLUMNS and LINES the export attribute, which is a *typical usage of those variables*. This should be a bug i

Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

Date:Fri, 14 Jun 2024 07:28:41 + From:Alain BROSSARD Message-ID: Most of this looks to be solved, or solvable now, but I see no-one seems to have replied to this particular comment: | Add to this that it is extremely difficult to check whether -a is set | o

Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 11:36:19AM +, Alain BROSSARD wrote: > ps axww isn’t impacted, but the scripts use ‘ps ax’. Oh. Well then, that's the most obvious thing to fix.

RE: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

Wooledge Sent: Friday, June 14, 2024 1:27 PM To: bug-bash@gnu.org Cc: Alain BROSSARD Subject: Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 07:28:41AM +, Alain BROSSARD wrote: > Honestly, I don't know where to go with this issu

Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 07:28:41AM +, Alain BROSSARD wrote: > Honestly, I don't know where to go with this issue. Bash's behavior > should be consistent and easily understood in order to have reliable scripts. > Clearly this case doesn't respect this. > I would suggest to put LINES an

RE: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

information. -Original Message- From: Chet Ramey Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2024 8:44 PM To: Alain BROSSARD ; Andreas Schwab ; Alain BROSSARD via Bug reports for the GNU Bourne Again SHell Cc: chet.ra...@case.edu Subject: Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps On 6/13/24 1:45 PM, Ala

Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 06:12:21PM +0200, Andreas Schwab wrote: > Why do you think this is a bug in bash? You are telling the shell to > export any modified variable, and you get what you asked for. I started writing something like this as well but deleted it. I think there's still a bit of subt

Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

On Thursday, June 13, 2024, Chet Ramey wrote: > > The value of COLUMNS gets modified, and auto-exported since you have > `set -a' enabled. > Okay, so the documentation adds up. Doesn't mean it's not a bug. If you were a normal user and were faced with the behavior presented in OP, wouldn't you t

Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

On 6/13/24 1:45 PM, Alain BROSSARD via Bug reports for the GNU Bourne Again SHell wrote: Hi Andreas, Sure, the variables explicitly assigned to get exported, that is the expected behavior. But there is nothing which explains why the variable COLUMNS becomes an environment variable. OK.

RE: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

you and send you relevant information. From: Andreas Schwab Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2024 6:12 PM To: Alain BROSSARD via Bug reports for the GNU Bourne Again SHell Cc: Alain BROSSARD Subject: Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps Why do you think this is a bug in bash? You are tel

Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

Why do you think this is a bug in bash? You are telling the shell to export any modified variable, and you get what you asked for. -- Andreas Schwab, sch...@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different."

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Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

i actually always did ww , but i didnt know here the difference .. On Thu, Jun 13, 2024, 4:24 PM Oğuz wrote: > On Thursday, June 13, 2024, Alain BROSSARD via Bug reports for the GNU > Bourne Again SHell wrote: > > > ># however, the second one has truncated output to the terminal > width

Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

On Thursday, June 13, 2024, Alain BROSSARD via Bug reports for the GNU Bourne Again SHell wrote: > ># however, the second one has truncated output to the terminal width > Looks like `set -a' exports COLUMNS for some reason, this must be a bug $ set -a $ env | grep COLUMNS $ env | grep CO

Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

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RE: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

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Re: set -a leads to truncated output from ps

try the ps arg w for full length ps output why u set -a ? On Thu, Jun 13, 2024, 3:29 PM Alain BROSSARD via Bug reports for the GNU Bourne Again SHell wrote: > Configuration Information [Automatically generated, do not change]: > Machine: x86_64 > OS: linux-gnu > Compiler: gcc > Compilation CFLA