[BRLTTY] BRLTTY and AT-SPI

2015-08-28 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Hello braillers! BRLTTY has some support for working with AT-SPI2 applications, mostly their terminal widgets. I would like to see some enhancements in this area for the following reasons: Firstly, X windows terminal emulators are in many ways better than the Linux console (and worse in many othe

Re: [BRLTTY] BRLTTY and AT-SPI

2015-08-28 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Hi, and thank you for the quick reply! Samuel Thibault writes: > Aura Kelloniemi, le Fri 28 Aug 2015 23:55:53 +0300, a écrit : >> - BRLTTY does not correctly detect the terminal size (it tries to guess it by >> examining line lengths, but this fails). Because of this the curs

[BRLTTY] Bug: Freedom Scientific driver broken in current git head for Focus Blue

2015-08-31 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Hello I have tried hacking with brltty and I noticed that in the current git head version the Freedom Scientific driver is broken. Symptoms: BRLTTY no more recognizes the Gdf and Wheel key names on Focus Blue (referred to as small model in BRLTTY sources). Reason: In brltty/Drivers/Braille/Freed

Re: [BRLTTY] BRLTTY and AT-SPI

2015-08-31 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Hello Samuel Thibault writes: > Aura Kelloniemi, le Sat 29 Aug 2015 01:14:43 +0300, a écrit : >> >> - Sometimes BRLTTY shows incorrect text (text that has already disappeared >> >> from the visual window) >> >> > That may be bugs in the term

Re: [BRLTTY] Bug: Freedom Scientific driver broken in current git head for Focus Blue

2015-08-31 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Dave Mielke writes: > [quoted lines by Aura Kelloniemi on 2015/08/30 at 22:10 +0300] >>I have tried hacking with brltty and I noticed that in the current git head >>version the Freedom Scientific driver is broken. >> >>Symptoms: BRLTTY no more recognizes the Gdf a

Re: [BRLTTY] BRLTTY and AT-SPI

2015-09-13 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Samuel Thibault writes: > Samuel Thibault, le Sun 13 Sep 2015 16:10:48 +0200, a écrit : >> Aura Kelloniemi, le Sun 30 Aug 2015 23:40:03 +0300, a écrit : >> > Orca still notices cursor movement and the >> > added characters, so the problem must be in BRLTTY. [--

Re: [BRLTTY] brltty5.2 alpine2.11 cursor tracking

2015-09-14 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Klaus-Peter Wegge writes: > Hello, > with my update to debian 8 I also updated from brltty3.8 to 5.2. > Now I'm approaching the following problem when using alpine2.11: > When reading a mail by moving the braille window around > the braille window jumps back to the current cursor position a

Re: [BRLTTY] brltty5.2 alpine2.11 cursor tracking

2015-09-14 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Hello Dave Mielke writes: > Right now, the handler that processes a screen update alert is scheduled to > execute immediately. My theory is that it might be better to schedule it to > occur a few milliseconds later. I tried the git head. My expert test bench looked like this: Test #1: emac

Re: [BRLTTY] brltty5.2 alpine2.11 cursor tracking

2015-09-14 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Dave Mielke writes: > [quoted lines by Aura Kelloniemi on 2015/09/14 at 19:57 +0300] >>I think that the problem with Dave's attempt to fix this problem was that >>screen updates just take a longer time than what was suspected. However, for >>top for example,

Re: [BRLTTY] brltty5.2 alpine2.11 cursor tracking

2015-09-14 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Dave Mielke writes: > [quoted lines by Aura Kelloniemi on 2015/09/14 at 21:56 +0300] >>So, here are the new results. Now I tested with emacs with up to four windows >>all updating the mode line continuously. I also tested with elinks which also >>has a "clo

Re: [BRLTTY] BRLTTY and AT-SPI

2015-11-13 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Samuel Thibault writes: > Aura Kelloniemi, on Fri 28 Aug 2015 23:55:53 +0300, wrote: >> - There's no blinking cursor, or there is a double cursor (this is due to a >> bug in brlapi - cursor never blinks in brlapi applications) > This should be fixed in git. It is fix

[BRLTTY] Feature request: new movement commands

2015-11-13 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Hi I use BRLTTY on a virtual terminal which is very wide (200 characters). There are two types of commands which would be very useful for me and I wish they could be added. The first is aset of commands which move the window to a different line, and then move it to the leftmost edge of the termin

[BRLTTY] Broken colour names

2015-11-13 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Hello BRLTTY nowadays displays colour names incorrectly with the Describe Character command. This has been the case for a long time, I just haven't reported it. This is probably due to some changes in Linux's console infrastructure, and may have been introduced with frame buffers. It may be that c

Re: [BRLTTY] BRLTTY and AT-SPI

2015-11-16 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Samuel Thibault writes: > We do prefer to have the brlapi driver pass the cursor position to the > second brltty, for displays which can show it. OK. BRLTTY's BrlAPI driver should then ask to not show the cursor in menus, messages, info mode, etc. Now if I invoke the Describe Character command

Re: [BRLTTY] BRLTTY and AT-SPI

2015-11-16 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Hello I reported four bugs to VTE. The links are here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758172 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758176 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758177 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758178 -- Aura _

Re: [BRLTTY] BRLTTY and AT-SPI

2015-11-16 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Dave Mielke writes: > [quoted lines by Aura Kelloniemi on 2015/11/16 at 14:09 +0200] >>OK. BRLTTY's BrlAPI driver should then ask to not show the cursor in menus, >>messages, info mode, etc. Now if I invoke the Describe Character command I >>still see the cursor in

Re: [BRLTTY] BRLTTY and AT-SPI

2015-11-16 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Dave Mielke writes: > [quoted lines by Aura Kelloniemi on 2015/11/16 at 19:35 +0200] >>but preferences still show it. > Yes. That's because the Preferences Menu is displayed in a virtual screen > that > supports full navigation. For example, the HOME func

Re: [BRLTTY] Broken colour names

2015-11-17 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Dave Mielke writes: > [quoted lines by Aura Kelloniemi on 2015/11/13 at 11:26 +0200] >>BRLTTY nowadays displays colour names incorrectly with the Describe Character >>command. > Could you please test this with the latest code to see if it's been resolved? It seems

Re: [BRLTTY] Broken colour names

2015-11-17 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Samuel Thibault writes: > Samuel Thibault, on Tue 17 Nov 2015 10:07:37 +0100, wrote: >> Aura Kelloniemi, on Tue 17 Nov 2015 10:23:33 +0200, wrote: >> > I could not get the blink attribute working on Linux console. >> > Traditionally it >> > changed the ba

[BRLTTY] Interfacing with terminal emulators (was: Re: Broken colour names)

2015-11-17 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Samuel Thibault writes: > Mario Lang, on Tue 17 Nov 2015 22:11:15 +0100, wrote: >> When we originally planned to do it via SHM, D-Bus was not around. >> Is SHM still the best option? [--] >> The libraries are a convenience, but it is perfectly >> possible to code a standalone AT-SPI client just

Re: [BRLTTY] Problem with 5.3

2015-12-16 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Dave Mielke writes: > [quoted lines by adr...@pa0rda.nl on 2015/12/16 at 10:17 +0100] >>I installed brltty 5.3 yesterday. Today I installed a new kernel on >>CentOS and after rebooting I get: >>Can't get console state I have the same problem. I'm running BRLTTY git head from yesterday on "Linu

Re: [BRLTTY] can't get console state

2015-12-16 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Dave Mielke writes: > Would those of you who've had the "can't get console state" problem please > update to the latest code to see if it's been resolved. Tried it, now it says: no screen. I checked very quickly, but found no errors in log. -- Aura __

Re: [BRLTTY] can't get console state

2015-12-17 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Dave Mielke writes: > [quoted lines by Aura Kelloniemi on 2015/12/17 at 08:31 +0200] >>Tried it, now it says: no screen. I checked very quickly, but found no errors >>in log. > The message "no screen" means that the screen driver isn't running. Maybe > i

Re: [BRLTTY] can't get console state

2015-12-18 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Dave Mielke writes: > [quoted lines by Nicolas Pitre on 2015/12/17 at 13:29 -0500] >>That calls for another official release I'd say. > Yes, it certainly does. I still need Aura to confirm the fix too, though. It works now, thank you! -- Aura ___

Re: [BRLTTY] Problem with terminus font

2016-02-08 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Hello! Dave Mielke writes: > [quoted lines by Samuel Thibault on 2016/02/09 at 01:21 +0100] > >Perhaps a rule of thumb would be to take the character which has the > >lowest unicode value. > :-) That's our current problem. 0X00 < 0X20 I would have preferred modifying the braille table of OP

[BRLTTY] Two bugs: Long key presses in BrlAPI; and AtSpi2 screen driver

2016-05-17 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Hello In the current git version from today, I have the following problems: 1. Commands bound to long key presses don't work in BrlAPI; they just don't get triggered. 2. When I run brltty with the AtSpi2 screen driver, it does not show anythhing on the display. The screen driver does not seem to

Re: [BRLTTY] Two bugs: Long key presses in BrlAPI; and AtSpi2 screen driver

2016-05-19 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Samuel Thibault writes: > Aura Kelloniemi, on Tue 17 May 2016 15:25:43 +0300, wrote: > > 1. Commands bound to long key presses don't work in BrlAPI; they just don't > > get triggered. > I have to say I don't know what these are. Long key presses of a

Re: [BRLTTY] Two bugs: Long key presses in BrlAPI; and AtSpi2 screen driver

2016-06-24 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Y git head and then report back here. Aura Kelloniemi writes: > Samuel Thibault writes: > > Aura Kelloniemi, on Tue 17 May 2016 15:25:43 +0300, wrote: > > > 2. When I run brltty with the AtSpi2 screen driver, it does not show > anythhing > > > on the dis