[quoted lines by Kevin Fjelsted on 2016/09/02 at 00:07 -0500]
>We are using a Raspberry PI with BRLTTY installed connected to a HIMS Braille
>Edge.
Does the Braille Edge have a braille or a qwerty keyboard?
>If we use an editor such as Nano the up and down arrows work fine on the
>display movi
> <> Braille
> keyboard.
<<
> >>> Yes.
<<>> The program does
not interpret left or right arrows, only up and down.
<< you expect to be moving to new lines?>>> Yes that is what we expect however
> although this happens in Nano it does not happen in our program.
<<>> Now, perhaps we shoul
[quoted lines by Kevin Fjelsted on 2016/09/02 at 05:19 -0500]
>>Do you mean the up and down arrows on the Braille Edge's keyboard?
>
>Yes.
Which keys are you using for the up and down arrows when you have a braille
keyboard?
How are the keyboard and the Braille Edge arrows behaving differently
> Which keys are you using for the up and down arrows when you have a braille
> keyboard?*** I have tried both sets of up and down arrows.
>
> How are the keyboard and the Braille Edge arrows behaving differently? If I'm
> understanding correctly, the keyboard arrows are doing what you want. Wh
[quoted lines by Kevin Fjelsted on 2016/09/02 at 05:40 -0500]
>>Which keys are you using for the up and down arrows when you have a braille
>>keyboard?
>
>I have tried both sets of up and down arrows.
That's the problem. Those aren't the same as keyboard arrow keys.
>The Edge arrows are being
How is it that the Edge arrows work correctly in Nano or other editors then?
Also the cursor routing keys work.
How do we make an application aware of these? Is this the BRLTTY-API that you
previously referred to?
Is there doc on this?
> On Sep 2, 2016, at 5:49 AM, Dave Mielke wrote:
>
> [quo
[quoted lines by Kevin Fjelsted on 2016/09/02 at 06:00 -0500]
>How is it that the Edge arrows work correctly in Nano or other editors then?
They don't. They're navigation keys - not arrow keys. They change which part of
the screen is being shown on the braille display. That's all. You'll find t
Hi!
This is in the Console of ubuntu 14.04 using brltty 5.4 with a Papenmeier els40.
When i do pm-suspend it suspends as normal but when i wake the computer up by
pressing any key on my pc brltty does not wake up emediatly.
I have to disconnect and reconnect the usb cable.
When brltty starts i can
hi
This brings up something I've been meaning to mention. I can get braille
input to work by using the braille keys on my (borrowed) braille sense
in the text console, but braille input does not work at all in orca.
I'm guessing this is an orca issue, but want to make sure. I'm actually
pretty su
[quoted lines by kendell clark on 2016/09/02 at 11:10 -0500]
>I can get braille input to work by using the braille keys on my (borrowed)
>braille sense in the text console, but braille input does not work at all in
>orca.
I believe you need to be running xbrlapi because it handles input typed o
<<
>> from them when they are pressed.>>>
That seems strange since the Edge arrow keys are responsive under other systems
like VOiceOver and JAWS. So the edge must be sending out characters. Is this
being filtered at the driver level, is there a way to expose them?
-Kevin
> On Sep 2, 2016, at 5
hi
I've just been told about this display from a member on the sonar
support list. I don't know much about it except it's some kind of group
effort by a bunch of blindness organizations to create an affordable
display that's going to have usb and bluetooth connectivity. I don't
think it's out yet,
[quoted lines by Kevin Fjelsted on 2016/09/02 at 14:56 -0500]
>That seems strange since the Edge arrow keys are responsive under other
>systems like VOiceOver and JAWS.
They're equally responsive under Linux using brltty. They're doing exactly what
they're supposed to be doing - navigating the
hi
Could his problem be a platform one? Example, when I connected my
borrowed braille sense up to my fiance's windows 7 box with the hims
driver installed, everything worked like it should except for those
arrow keys at the left and right ends of the display. No program at all
would work with them
[quoted lines by kendell clark on 2016/09/02 at 19:10 -0500]
>I've just been told about this display from a member on the sonar
>support list. I don't know much about it except it's some kind of group
>effort by a bunch of blindness organizations to create an affordable
>display that's going to h
hi
no
oh my goodness no
What I meant was that I was wondering if my social media manager (ryan
eversole is his name) would be given cooperation by the people making
the display or blown off as unimportant because they're not from
microsoft, apple or google. I'm so used to linux being rejected as
u
[quoted lines by kendell clark on 2016/09/02 at 19:25 -0500]
>Could his problem be a platform one?
no. His problem is that he's trying to will the device to work the way he'd
like it to. He's decided that they should function like keyboard arrow keys,
and wondering why they don't. The answer i
Dave wrote:
> I'm suspecting that it gets into trouble if it tries to send a packet
> to the host at the same time that the host is sending a packet to it.
Maybe that's confirmed. I've been debugging a bit with Kevin (tayky),
and we tried this:
stty -echo ; sleep 1m ; stty echo
to avoid the outp
[quoted lines by kendell clark on 2016/09/02 at 19:40 -0500]
>no
>oh my goodness no
>What I meant was that
:-) Maybe I should've thought through your statement a bit more before
responding to it. Anyway, my approach is always to speak very directly to an
issue in order to clear up any misunder
[quoted lines by Samuel Thibault on 2016/09/03 at 02:48 +0200]
>Maybe that's confirmed. I've been debugging a bit with Kevin (tayky),
>and we tried this:
>
>stty -echo ; sleep 1m ; stty echo
>
>to avoid the output packets. Kevin could type on the keyboard without
>triggering the bug, no character
hi
I can definitely get behind that. Linux users and all other users should
have a choice over which hardware they run. I'm not sure if we (meaning
the sonar community) will be able to get one display let alone several,
but if we do manage to get more than one we'll definitely send one your
way fre
[quoted lines by kendell clark on 2016/09/02 at 21:32 -0500]
>I've often wondered why there isn't a standard usb device class for braille
>displays like there is for keyboards, mice, etc?
I'm far from an expert on this, but it could be as simple a there not yet being
enough of a standard. I ra
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