Re: [BRLTTY] Laptop key table.

2012-05-21 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by Luke Yelavich on 2012/05/22 at 08:36 +1000] >If you are on a text console VT, with an X session on another VT, why would >keyboard shortcuts conflict with Orca? The problem is when you're using the graphical console as both brltty and Orca are interpreting key combinations. -

Re: [BRLTTY] Laptop key table.

2012-05-21 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 05:02:14AM EST, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Eric Scheibler on 2012/05/21 at 20:52 +0200] > > >>What if, to avoid conflicts with Orca, we switch all our laptop key > >>bindings to > >>use Tab instead of CapsLock? > >Sounds good cause it's much easier to hold than

Re: [BRLTTY] feedback to the latest improvements was: Re: Error when building BRLTTY

2012-05-21 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by Adrian P. van Bloois on 2012/05/21 at 21:20 +0200] >I treid to install the latest version of brltty. >After svn update i get everything I hope. >But, when running autogen it looks like this: >common.mk:24: forbuild.mk: No such file or directory There was a rather unusual updat

Re: [BRLTTY] feedback to the latest improvements was: Re: Error when building BRLTTY

2012-05-21 Thread Adrian P. van Bloois
Hi, I tried to install the latest brltty just now. I get everything, I hope, with svn update. But then, after running autogen I get this: common.mk:24: forbuild.mk: No such file or directory absdeps.mk:6: warning: overriding recipe for target `Bindings/Java/bindings.o' absdeps.mk:6: warning: ignori

Re: [BRLTTY] feedback to the latest improvements was: Re: Error when building BRLTTY

2012-05-21 Thread Adrian P. van Bloois
Hi, I treid to install the latest version of brltty. After svn update i get everything I hope. But, when running autogen it looks like this: common.mk:24: forbuild.mk: No such file or directory absdeps.mk:6: warning: overriding recipe for target `Bindings/Java/bindings.o' absdeps.mk:6: warning:

Re: [BRLTTY] Laptop key table.

2012-05-21 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by Eric Scheibler on 2012/05/21 at 20:52 +0200] >>What if, to avoid conflicts with Orca, we switch all our laptop key bindings >>to >>use Tab instead of CapsLock? >Sounds good cause it's much easier to hold than tow keys. But we should >test it to avoid conflicts with other program

Re: [BRLTTY] I'm still unable to use the cut buffer from an Alva

2012-05-21 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by Lee Maschmeyer on 2012/05/21 at 12:12 -0400] >>Repeat keys > >Tested with both on and off. It's on now. Repeat keys should be off with brltty. If a user wants repeated keys then that feature of brltty (autorepeat) should be turned on. >>2nd Cursor Routing row > >On. On

Re: [BRLTTY] Laptop key table.

2012-05-21 Thread Eric Scheibler
Hello Dave, Dave Mielke schrieb am 21.05.2012, 9:54 -0400: >What if, to avoid conflicts with Orca, we switch all our laptop key bindings >to >use Tab instead of CapsLock? Sounds good cause it's much easier to hold than tow keys. But we should test it to avoid conflicts with other programs. Co

Re: [BRLTTY] Say Time

2012-05-21 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by Mario Lang on 2012/05/21 at 18:35 +0200] >12/24 hour format (AM/PM on/off) comes to mind. I decided to look around a bit. So far, I have: Time Format: 12 Hour, 24 Hour Time Separator: :, . Date Position: None, Before Time, After Time Date Format: Year Month Day, Mont

[BRLTTY] Say Time

2012-05-21 Thread Mario Lang
Dave Mielke writes: > [quoted lines by Mario Lang on 2012/05/21 at 14:31 +0200] > >>Actually, many well-known screen readers for GUI environments have "Say >>Time" in one or another incarnation. I personally find it quite useful >>on these systems, so I'd vote for yes, please. Actually, it coul

Re: [BRLTTY] I'm still unable to use the cut buffer from an Alva

2012-05-21 Thread Lee Maschmeyer
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 06:43:57AM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > what are the following BC640 menu items currently set to? > >Repeat keys Tested with both on and off. It's on now. >2nd Cursor Routing row On. >2nd Cursor Routing delay 500. I've tried both long and short presses of th

[BRLTTY] Laptop key table.

2012-05-21 Thread Dave Mielke
What if, to avoid conflicts with Orca, we switch all our laptop key bindings to use Tab instead of CapsLock? -- Dave Mielke | 2213 Fox Crescent | The Bible is the very Word of God. Phone: 1-613-726-0014 | Ottawa, Ontario | 2011 May 21 is the End of Salvation. EMail: d...@mielke.cc |

Re: [BRLTTY] brltty only partially running

2012-05-21 Thread Rob Hudson
Am I recalling correctly that you're expecting software flow control? Brltty, for the BrailleLite, uses hardware flow control. Does anything in the brltty files need changing for this, or can I just set hardware flow control in the braillelite? ___

Re: [BRLTTY] brltty only partially running

2012-05-21 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by Rob Hudson on 2012/05/21 at 06:02 -0500] >Is your BrailleLite connected to a real serial port or via a USB adapter? >It is connected to a serial port mounted on a PCI card. Running >Archlinux, if it matters. Am I recalling correctly that you're expecting software flow control? Br

Re: [BRLTTY] feedback to the latest improvements was: Re: Error when building BRLTTY

2012-05-21 Thread Mario Lang
Dave Mielke writes: > Are we still missing any functions? You noted that Orca has "say time", which > we don't have. Should we have it? What else are we still missing? Actually, many well-known screen readers for GUI environments have "Say Time" in one or another incarnation. I personally find

Re: [BRLTTY] Call for feedback on german message translations

2012-05-21 Thread Mario Lang
Sebastian Humenda writes: > Hello Mario, > > Mario Lang schrieb am 21.05.2012, 0:50 +0200: >>If you are a german native speaker, I'd like to catch your attention for >>a while and point you at the ability of BRLTTY to have localized >>messages. If you have not noticed so far, yes, thats possib

Re: [BRLTTY] brltty only partially running

2012-05-21 Thread Rob Hudson
Is your BrailleLite connected to a real serial port or via a USB adapter? It is connected to a serial port mounted on a PCI card. Running Archlinux, if it matters. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-ma

Re: [BRLTTY] I'm still unable to use the cut buffer from an Alva

2012-05-21 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by Lee Maschmeyer on 2012/05/20 at 09:23 -0400] >With the impending new release coming up I have to report again that I >can't use brltty's cut buffer from my Alva BC640 with feature >pack. Last time I mentioned this I included a log; should I do that >again? Maybe. For now, what ar

Re: [BRLTTY] brltty only partially running

2012-05-21 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by Rob Hudson on 2012/05/20 at 12:16 -0500] >So I compiled with these options: >./configure --with-braille-driver=bl --with-braille-device=/dev/ttyS0 >--with-speech-driver-sd >I hear speech but no braille on the braille lite. Baud rate 9600 software >handshake. Is your BrailleLite

Re: [BRLTTY] feedback to the latest improvements was: Re: Error when building BRLTTY

2012-05-21 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by Eric Scheibler on 2012/05/20 at 17:21 +0200] >Here is my current key table: >bind ShiftRight+!ArrowLeft SPEAK_PREV_WORD >bind ShiftRight+!ArrowRight SPEAK_NEXT_WORD >bind ShiftRight+!ArrowUp SPEAK_PREV_LINE >bind ShiftRight+!ArrowDown SPEAK_NEXT_LINE >bind ControlR

Re: [BRLTTY] feedback to the latest improvements was: Re: Error when building BRLTTY

2012-05-21 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by Sebastian Humenda on 2012/05/20 at 10:24 +0200] >Ah, that was Eric. It might be a good idea to try out those, since right >control >and right shift aren't used by any of the screen readers known to me. Should we keep CapsLock for the bindings we already have in the laptop key t

Re: [BRLTTY] I'm still unable to use the cut buffer from an Alva

2012-05-21 Thread Shérab
Hello, perhaps related issue here with the Iris driver: to understand the problem one has to know that the key used to begin a cut is the same than for moving left one window, that is when i's pressed alone it goes left one window but when it's pressed in conjunction with a routing key it begins a