Re: Abortion Case Heads to the Supreme Court

2005-05-24 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes -- once again there are exceptions which suggest that laws, which can't be created in such a way as to take into account all exceptions, can in enough circumstances cause sufficient suffering to lead to the conclusion that it would be best to eli

Re: The French Say "Non!"

2005-06-01 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'm sure most of you ran across the news that the French rejected the > Euro constitution. > I'm switching the order of the questions around because the answers to the first question are highly dependant on the answers to the second. > Do you think this

RE: Discovery Channel's "Greatest American"

2005-06-10 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: "Gary Nunn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Discovery Channel is taking votes to determine who is the "Greatest American". The entries I have problems with, are George Bush, Bill Clinton and Bill Gates. (Snip) Bill Gates because his accomplishments have nothing to do with being American, but mor

RE: Cover-up or protection?

2005-06-18 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Gary Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The disease was unknown until 1943, when it was identified and diagnosed among 11 children born in the months after thimerosal was first added to baby vaccines in 1931. No, it wasn't, looking back. The pianist/composer Blind Tom clearly had it, among othe

Re: Cover-up or protection?

2005-06-20 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Not too many people are aware of the natural connection between Silicon Valley and mercury. One of the area's natural attractions is the Almaden Quicksilver County Park, whose name is not just a pretty word attached to a pretty place: quicksilver is what was

Re: Supreme Court: Home May Be Seized

2005-06-24 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/23/2005 8:41:02 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Any property may now be taken for the benefit of another private party, but the fallout from this decision will not be random," O'Connor wrote Oh hell yes. I don't thi

Re: Fare thee well my beautiful Vulcan, was RE: Star Trek signs off tonight....

2005-07-01 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: "Travis Edmunds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have been hoping for a while that we'd see a darker Federation. We did, in DS-9, which I loved. Apparently, viewers didn't. When TV finally reran it, it was daytimes when I'm in school (Sob) A Fed from the perspective of colony worlds who had not

Re: Fare thee well my beautiful Vulcan, was RE: Star Trek signs off tonight....

2005-07-02 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: "Travis Edmunds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "PAT MATHEWS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Notice how we get a different Batman for every decade, and the current one is said to be the best yet. Christian Bale? Who says? -Twavis www.fourthturning.com, the Cultu

RE: Baxter's Manifold: books

2005-07-05 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Kevin Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion To: "'Killer Bs Discussion'" Subject: RE: Baxter's Manifold: books Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:35:47 -0600 Ah, Baxter - one of the modern SF masters! (But why do so many of the best writers have names that start with "B"?) F

RE: Baxter's Manifold: books

2005-07-06 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Kevin Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kevin Street wrote: > > Ah, Baxter - one of the modern SF masters! (But why do so many of the > > best writers have names that start with "B"?) > > Pat Mathews wrote: > For the same reason so many great 19th

RE: On Religion

2005-07-25 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I think whoever (Robert Chassell?) said that they thought maybe people _need_ religion hit the nail on the head. When gods and religion were invented, people needed a way to explain that which there was no possible way for them to understand. While w

RE: The Brad DeLong Early Holocene Sci-Fi Contest

2005-08-08 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: "Robert G. Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion !...WellI'm declaring a contest myself The Idea is to write a few paragraphs that exhibit what Sci-Fi would *be* for an early hunter/gatherer. My own entry: "Chief, I have foreseen a time when ever

RE: Death in the family

2005-08-16 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My father-in-law died this afternoon. He'd been fighting cancer for over 2 years. His oncologist gave up on him 2 months ago. I figured he had 6 weeks at the outside at that point, but he hung on just a little longer. I'm going to be busy with thing

RE: David Brin's blog

2005-08-16 Thread PAT MATHEWS
About the Enlightenment, modernity, and the diamond: Ken Wilber sees the current Culture Wars as a fight between the two developmental levels to either side of our own. In brief (very brief) the Enlightenment/modern culture is his "Orange Meme"-Rational. On one side of it is the "Green Meme" -

Killing threads

2005-08-20 Thread PAT MATHEWS
I've been deleting everything headed "Mindless and heartless," not wanting any part of this particular debate. This morning, hotmail decided items on this thread - and the people sending it - were therefore junk mail. It took me 5 minutes to un-junk them, since hotmail does not deal in groups:

RE: Gas Prices

2005-08-31 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: "Horn, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I filled up yesterday morning at $2.39 per gallon. When I went home yesterday, it was $2.69. I just passed the station on my way home from work today and it was $2.99 per gallon. How can that be? How can it have gone up $.60 per gallon over the course of

Re: Brin: The Military Coup Of 2012

2005-09-12 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Robert G. Seeberger quoted: > > The letter that follows takes us on a darkly imagined excursion into > the future. A military coup has taken place in the United States--the > year is 2012--and General Thomas E. T. Brutus, Commander-in-Chief of > the Unifi

RE: Brin: Is this really happening?

2005-09-12 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <> Link describes a FEMA refugee detainment camp: " FEMA will not allow any of the kitchen facilities in any of the cabins to be used by the occupants due to fire hazards. FEMA will deliver meals to the c

RE: Brin: Is this really happening?

2005-09-12 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <> Link describes a FEMA refugee detainment camp: " FEMA will not allow any of the kitchen facilities in any of the cabins to be used by the occupants due to fire hazards. FEMA will deliver meals to the c

RE: Evacuation

2005-09-20 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: "Robert G. Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The town of Nassau Bay, where I live, has declared a voluntary evacuation. And warn that tomorrow at 6PM they may call for a mandatory evacuation. Good luck. May you and yours get out safely and find shelter in a comfortable motel or something.

RE: Evacuation

2005-09-22 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: "Horn, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Subject: RE: Evacuation Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 23:26:13 -0500 I know it isn't likely but if anybody is evacuating and ends up in the St. Louis area, let me know. I'm sure we can put someone up for

FOUR YEARS DRUNK

2005-09-22 Thread PAT MATHEWS
' Maybe we'll wake up sometime in 2007 with a whopping hangover, look around at the mess, and think, "Jeezus, I'm never drinking that shit again".' From a comment on Brin’s Blog. FOUR YEARS DRUNK By Patricia (Pat) Mathews Oh, I came home four years ago, con

RE: Emergency highway use & terrorism

2005-09-25 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: "Gary Nunn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My question is this: why didn't they require standards that would allow current highway infrastructure to be used in time of war? Maybe the government was (is) arrogant enough to think that nobody would consider, or succeed, in invading US soil? As I rec

Re: Emergency highway use & terrorism

2005-09-26 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It's startling to travel over *any* portion of US 66 and imagine how it must have been to drive it when it was new. And how damned terrifying it must have been to get passed in the opposing lane by a massive truck … especially given the lack of seat

Re: Evacuation

2005-09-26 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Sep 25, 2005, at 10:17 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: It's not possible to be a public figure *and* clear of criticism. And here we have a President who prides himself on *not* reading, who claims that "nobody could have expected the levees to fail" or som

RE: Uplift + Hurricane = Danger

2005-09-26 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Folks, Only Brin fans would grasp the true nature of the following story from the Guardian: http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/ 0,6903,1577753,00.html http://tinyurl.com/89xhk "Armed and dangerous - Flipper the firing dolphin le

Re: In School: Intelligent design, evolution, witchcraft & aliens.

2005-09-26 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Sep 26, 2005, at 4:46 PM, Gary Nunn wrote: Another thought just occurred to me... Wouldn't it be ironic if we WERE the result of intelligent design... Maybe, thousands of years ago, we were genetically engineered, by some alien race, to be slaves, c

Re: Scouted: Study: HIGH Religious Belief Correlated with HIGHMurder, Abortion, Suicide, etc. Rates

2005-09-28 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Scouted: Study: HIGH Religious Belief Correlated with HIGHMurder, Abortion, Suicide, etc. Rates Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 09:29:41 +0100 On 28 Sep 2005, at 6:18 am, The Fool wrote:

RE: 4thReichKKKlan:

2005-10-20 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: "Jim Sharkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . :-) >And does Boortz realize that if only the rich are saved, those same >rich will have to do all the rebuilding, all the dirty grunt labor, >themselves after the disaster? Yeah. Dear Boortz - YOU go ahead and save Paris Hilton ahead of the guy f

RE: 4thReichKKKlan:

2005-10-20 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 09:07 AM Thursday 10/20/2005, PAT MATHEWS wrote: From: "Jim Sharkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . :-) >And does Boortz realize that if only the rich are saved, those same >rich will have to do all the rebuilding, all the di

RE: Books

2005-10-24 Thread PAT MATHEWS
Living in a fantasy world - you say that like it's a bad thing. From: "Horn, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Subject: RE: Books Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 15:48:40 -0500 > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julia Thompson > > (Does a

Transparency in the Arizona Public Schools

2005-10-24 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From the Arizona Daily Star: "Yes, the kids who watched the Smurfs on Saturday morning and danced to Michael Jackson's "Thriller" at night are now parents. And they're demanding transparency and accountability in school operations, hiring practices and grading formulas, experts and local educ

Utopias and anti-utopias

2005-11-22 Thread PAT MATHEWS
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2005/11/20/back_to_utopia/?page=full Living in a fantasy world - you say that like it's a bad thing. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: RIP Ed

2005-11-23 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion To: Brin-L Subject: RIP Ed Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 14:33:30 + Ed, our twelve year old greyhound, was euthanised today just before noon. He hurt his leg on Friday which turned out to be a fracture which turned out

Re: White House Ghosts

2005-11-27 Thread PAT MATHEWS
Living in a fantasy world - you say that like it's a bad thing. From: Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: White House Ghosts Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 12:37:47 + Warren Ockrassa wrote: > >> Lincoln replies, "Go see

Re: The Ultimate in Christmas lights

2005-12-01 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion At 11:50 PM Wednesday 11/30/2005, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/45390/wizards_of_winter/ This is awesome! This guy has his Christmas lights controlled by computer and set to music..TrasS

Re: Help me identify 80's cop show...

2005-12-18 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Dec 18, 2005, at 9:53 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: She's not going to name him "Hoss" or "Skeeter", but he might have his daddy's name, or he might have the name of one or more of his first cousins, and nicknames like "Hoss" or "Skeeter" will identify him

Re: Flashback

2005-12-23 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Flashback Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 23:35:50 -0600 Deborah Harrell wrote: Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There's a song, "They'll Know We are Christians by Our Love." Whew, j

A very sensible idea

2006-01-28 Thread PAT MATHEWS
Someone on FourthTurning came up with a very sensible idea. It was that the only time the federal government should interfere with state law is if the state is violating the Bill of Rights. (This does not restrict the power of the feds to regulate air traffic, public health, etc...we're talkin

Re: A very sensible idea

2006-01-28 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PAT wrote: Someone on FourthTurning came up with a very sensible idea. It was that the only time the federal government should interfere with state law is if the state is violating the Bill of Rights. (This does not restrict the power of the feds to

RE: Fight the Future: Houston Police wanna put Cameras in Your Home

2006-02-18 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <> Houston's police chief on Wednesday proposed placing surveillance cameras in apartment complexes, downtown streets, shopping malls and even private homes to fight crime during a shortage

RE: VP not part of Executive Branch?

2007-06-24 Thread PAT MATHEWS
You're assuming anyone knows what the Constitution says and can read the plain 18th Century English it's written in. For the early 21st Century, a quick translation is "Da Boss- Xbranch. Boss #2 honcho-Xbranch." http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ __ May your house be

Brin listee not smarter than a 5th grader (blush)

2007-06-24 Thread PAT MATHEWS
Yup. I watch "Are you Smarter than a Fifth Grader" and write down my own answers just for fun. And I missed a question onthat anyone who has read "Startide Rising" should have been able to ace. "An orca, often called a killer whale, is a species of dolphin. True? Or False?" Well, as the Strea

RE: VP not part of Executive Branch?

2007-06-28 Thread PAT MATHEWS
I am reminded of the visiting lecturer in my Roman Civilization class, trying to explain without overt obscenity the use of the Latin term 'mentula' as an insult to a politician. She did it by throwing a picture of our current Vice President on the screen with the caption "Dick". Pat, grinning

Re: Got Brains?

2007-07-21 Thread PAT MATHEWS
He was in the civil service with an IQ of 75? Pat, biting tongue on bureaucrat jokes. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ __ "The community stagnates without the impulse of the individual.The impulse dies away without the sympathy of the community."--William James

Re: Religion is Valuable: Why it Must Be Encouraged

2007-07-29 Thread PAT MATHEWS
I am deleting, unread, all posts with this title because nobody is saying anything new. Everybody has their minds made up and all the force of their deepest values behind it. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ __ "The community stagnates without the impulse of the i

RE: Brineller quoted in New York Times

2007-08-01 Thread PAT MATHEWS
She has a hedge fund job? Better get her resumes out - they are crashing like cheap pinatas at a birthday party. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ __ The totem animals of Wall Street are the bull, the bear, the hog, and the ostrich. From: John Garcia <[EMA

RE: After Midnight

2007-08-02 Thread PAT MATHEWS
Your kitty died? I'm sorry to hear that. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ __ The totem animals of Wall Street are the bull, the bear, the hog, and the ostrich. From: Ronn! Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion To: "Killer Bs Discus

Re: Monster, dog or chupacabra?

2007-09-07 Thread PAT MATHEWS
The shape looks canine to me. Pat http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ __ "Car title loans get you back on your feet again." >From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion >To: Killer Bs Discussion >Subject: Re: Monster, dog or chupacab

RE: Political affiliation could be all in the brain

2007-09-09 Thread PAT MATHEWS
Wait a minute - I'm a liberal and I took an executive function test a lot like that only more complex and got a lousy 108 on it. And how is being more responsive to a new signal a brain DEFECT? Pat, needs to study to become an idiot savant. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ ___

Re: Car free London?

2007-09-17 Thread PAT MATHEWS
I want to add my two cents about car-free anything, since the University of New Mexico is working very hard to become a car-free campus - at the age of 68 and in hot weather, walking any distance is exhausting. There have been days I've tried to do so for my health and have come home and been

Re: Netiquette

2007-09-20 Thread PAT MATHEWS
While we're on other languages, "Eres tarde, Frodo. Los Estados Unidos tiene el Uno Anillo y está usándolo http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ __ "God does not play dice with the Universe" -Albert Einstein "Albert, quit telling God what to do with His dice." -Niels

Re: Hybrid Cars: An unexpected complaint

2007-10-03 Thread PAT MATHEWS
Adding a nice little purr to the hybrid motors might prove to catch the public's fancy, so maybe we're not just accomodating 0.5% of the population. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ __ "God does not play dice with the Universe" -Albert Einstein "Albert, quit telli

Re: Turkey, Genocide & Congress.

2007-10-16 Thread PAT MATHEWS
>From: Ray Ludenia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion >To: Killer Bs Discussion >Subject: Re: Turkey, Genocide & Congress. >Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:43:33 +1000 > > >On 16/10/2007, at 5:01 AM, Gary Nunn wrote: > > > Even if it WAS genocide, the question still remains: what good

Calling Vernor Vinge! Sandia National Labs -

2007-10-22 Thread PAT MATHEWS
Sandia National Labs announced it is cutting off all access to it's collection of "hard-copy content" to save money and re-engineer library services for the electronic age. Eventually (note the disjuncture!) the people will have access to a fully electronic library. Jean, I'll send you the enti

The Sandia Labs library

2007-10-22 Thread PAT MATHEWS
Sandia couldn't keep the hard-copy library open until they had the electronic one in place? Usually when you replace one thing with another, you allow for some interim coverage. "I'm taking your old coat; eventually you'll get a new one. Meanwhile, you can freeze." Gaah. Patricia Mathews htt

Re: Brin: Fires in California

2007-10-22 Thread PAT MATHEWS
Oh, you're out there! Ouch... After the Cerro Grande fire up in Los Alamos some years ago, I bought soft-sided cat carriers for my fellows and made them as attractive as possible in hopes they'd sleep in them. I keep them on waist-high bookcases one near each dor. That way in case we have to

Re: Brin: Fire info

2007-10-24 Thread PAT MATHEWS
Not with the Santa Ana blowing so fiercely, you don't. Note: our huge fire in Los Alamos was caused by a controlled burn (a tactic the firefighters are very well aware of, upsides and downsides both) that got out of control due to a strong shifting wind. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ "You

Re: dogmatism v. pragmatism

2007-12-05 Thread PAT MATHEWS
Lakoff makes more sense if you add the concept of freely chosen obligations versus enforced obligations - I forget the precise terminology. The latter means that you do what you do because you must - it's your duty as whatever your role is. Dharma, in the Hindu usage. The former is, you freely

RE: Correlation v. causality

2007-12-06 Thread Pat Mathews
Does Satan have retractable claws at the end of his paws? http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ "Now is the winter of our discontent" > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 20:24:41 -0600 > To: brin-l@mccmedia.com > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Correlation v. causality > > At 07:06 PM Thursday 12

RE: Pratchett has Alzheimer's

2007-12-12 Thread Pat Mathews
Oh, no! http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ "Now is the winter of our discontent" > To: brin-l@mccmedia.com > Subject: Pratchett has Alzheimer's > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:46:10 -0500 > > > http://www.paulkidby.com/news/index.html > > I'll warrant we've got a fa

RE: Recent human selection

2007-12-20 Thread Pat Mathews
But in a caste system such as India has, you also had downward mobility. A person could lose caste in various ways and sink downwards, especially as conditions were so crowded and harsh the very lowest of castes would probably not have reproduced themselves. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/

RE: A Family Tragedy

2007-12-20 Thread Pat Mathews
With deepest sympathies. I'm sorry to hear that. Blessings, Pat http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ "Now is the winter of our discontent" > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: brin-l@mccmedia.com > Subject: Re: A Family Tragedy > Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:54:53 -0600 > > - Original Message

RE: US Doomed

2008-01-05 Thread Pat Mathews
The President of the United States should not have the power to declare what science teachers should teach. That it's even a remote possibility is a sign of federal mission creep - and presidential mission creep on top of it - so severe I'd be sorely tempted to vote for Ron Paul if I weren't a

RE: On the American Standard front.....

2008-01-10 Thread Pat Mathews
That's odd. It was #3 that I found unfunny. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: brin-l@mccmedia.com > Subject: Re: On the American Standard front. > Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 18:45:00 -0700 > > On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:41 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > Some fun

RE: David Brin on History Channel 1/21/08

2008-01-22 Thread Pat Mathews
Great! I had a meeting that ran past 8pm Monday "Never judge a book by its movie." http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: David Brin on History Channel 1/21/08 > Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:11:29 -0800 > To: brin-l@mccmedia.com > > On Jan 20, 2008, at 1:49

RE: Polygamy

2008-02-06 Thread Pat Mathews
Two reasons besides patrilocality that males might be more valuable: Heavy labor it takes a lot of muscle mass - especially upper body muscle mass - to do. Nonmechanized warfare, ditto. So you want sons to push the ox-plow and sons to wield a sword. "Never judge a book by its movie." http://

RE: One for Pat

2008-02-15 Thread Pat Mathews
Where can you get a 200 pound cat? Go into the woods in any mountain range in the Southwest and Rockey Mountain West with a chunk of raw meat and call "Here, gato, gato, gato." "Never judge a book by its movie." http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ > Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:44:14 -0500 > F

RE: "Ape Genius" on NOVA last night

2008-02-20 Thread Pat Mathews
The story you're loking for is Robert Heinlein's "Jerry Was a Man" "Never judge a book by its movie." http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ > Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:26:35 -0800 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: "Ape Genius" on NOVA last night > To: brin-l@mccmedia.com > > > I wrote:

RE: Moses was high on drugs: Israeli researcher

2008-03-05 Thread Pat Mathews
Suppose you are a brain in a jar, a prisoner in Plato's cave, or in the Matrix. Then you have two choices. You can play the game as if it were serious, as all god game players do, and treat real life as real; or you can do as Plato;s escaped prisoner and Neo did, work your way free, and try to

The Postman

2008-03-21 Thread Pat Mathews
http://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF202-Post_Apocalyptic.jpg http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Interesting Day

2008-03-21 Thread Pat Mathews
And Thursday was one of the 8 pagan holidays, the Spring Equinoxhttp://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ > Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:39:00 -0500> To: brin-l@mccmedia.com> From: [EMAIL > PROTECTED]> Subject: Fwd: Interesting Day> > Good Friday! Happy Purim, Eid, > etc...> > > Wednesday, Mar. 19, 2008

RE: Courage in facing death

2008-04-20 Thread Pat Mathews
Blessings on her and your dad and you. My sister died the same way, so I know how it hurts. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ > Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:19:08 -0700 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Courage in facing death > To: brin-l@mccmedia.com > > Years ago, someone asked me who

RE: Food Wars

2008-04-24 Thread Pat Mathews
If you go to the Powell's website, you'll find a blurb for a book which described in detail how the author's family lived on potatoes and "bland, processed (or packaged) products scavenged..." during one spell of poverty. Enjoy them, mashed, fried, and mixed with onions. http://idiotgrrl.livej

RE: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-27 Thread Pat Mathews
Great idea! I'm looking forward to meeting your extended family in your new tenement apartment. Especially the little kids. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: brin-l@mccmedia.com > Subject: Re: Adressing Global Warming > Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:36:53 +

RE: culling the species

2008-04-29 Thread Pat Mathews
Actually, you can get much the same result with vast numbers of jobs for women and high-paying jobs that call for more education. That are actually accessible to low-income or third world women by following a few straightforward steps, results guaranteed if she works at it. That will result in

RE: CITOKATE

2008-05-06 Thread Pat Mathews
Some of the criticism I get on a forum supposedly dedicated to intellectual analysis of a theoretical book has so often degenerated into name calling that they set up a special Flame Wars thread just for that. Did it work? No. So be prepared to filter out a lot of "Fascist!" "Well, you're a Li

RE: Restricting, not: culling the species

2008-06-13 Thread Pat Mathews
Deborah Harrell says: "I think we ought to have adaptation classes for those unfamiliar with our ideal values." I totally agree. Enrollees will include a good many people who think that granting habeas corpus to accesed enemies of the State means we will all be murdered in our beds; those who

RE: Restricting, not: culling the species

2008-06-13 Thread Pat Mathews
One more answer to Debbi - this time about GreenTechnology - as I sit here in my midcentury box in the desert with the swamp cooler running - people used to build for the climate. There once was a huge body of knowledge about how to do so. No high tech required; just the good services of an his

RE: USA presidential race(ism)

2008-06-19 Thread Pat Mathews
Cue Bruce Springsteenhttp://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ > Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:48:18 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > brin-l@mccmedia.com> Subject: Re: USA presidential race(ism)> > On Thu, Jun > 19, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:> > > Both > McCain

RE: Indigo and Umami

2008-07-23 Thread Pat Mathews
Actually the colors are or, argent, gules, vert, azul, purpure, and sable. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:07:18 -0500 > To: brin-l@mccmedia.com > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Indigo and Umami > > At 03:14 PM Tuesday 7/22/2008, Julia Thompson wrote:

RE: Dollar a gallon gasoline

2008-07-23 Thread Pat Mathews
> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:04:02 -0500 > To: brin-l@mccmedia.com > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Showing again that the underlying problem is that people must > renounce greed and selfishness and replace them with cooperation and altruism. > > > . . . ronn! :) "Great idea. Wrong species."

RE: memes, or genes...

2008-07-26 Thread Pat Mathews
Actually, that is standard Roman Catholic teaching as well. Except that a lot of American Catholics don't do it. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: brin-l@mccmedia.com > Subject: Re: memes, or genes... > Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:55:02 -0500 > > On Jul 26, 2

RE: Poetic justice

2008-07-28 Thread Pat Mathews
I have been trying to live within my means. In May my car needed $2,000 worth of repairs. June my vet bill ran over $600. This month the plumber is at my house roto-rooting the main line and the line between the sink and the washing machine. I could, of course, cut down the tree whose roots are

RE: Genesis

2008-07-30 Thread Pat Mathews
BTW - when you talk about people working longer, don't assume we are all leaving the work force early because we want to. While firing people because of their age is illegal in the United States, giving them poor performance reviews, making their lives miserable, etc can be done and often is. O

RE: Governments...

2008-08-17 Thread Pat Mathews
And better practiced in his day than in ours! Despite his flirtation with an Act that's becoming our governmental standard. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ > Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:49:22 -0700 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Governments... > To: brin-l@mccmedia.com > > > www.pb

RE: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))

2008-08-21 Thread Pat Mathews
I can't speak for other members of the list's silent majority. I, for one, see another news article on some cult or its members run amok,yawn, and hit Delete. Just thought you'd want to know. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: brin-l@mccmedia.com > Subject

RE: Greg Bear

2008-08-21 Thread Pat Mathews
I got the first line, anyway. "A dozen, a gross, and a score" and am far too lazy to do the calculations and figure out the rest. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ > Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:56:26 -0500 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: brin-l@mccmedia.com > Subject: Re: Greg Bear > >

RE: Sore losers

2008-08-27 Thread Pat Mathews
The age of the gymnasts is not an arbitrary rule that should be eliminated. My daughter was in gymnastics for a while. Training at Olympic level is very hard on growing bones and muscles, and it is easy for a youngster still growing to do permanent damage to his or her body. My other daughter w

RE: Sore losers

2008-08-27 Thread Pat Mathews
Training is fine; competition at the Olympic level and the training necessary for *that* is too much for growing bodies. Vault and beam are fine - kids do that sort of thing for fun, in fact,and always have. But still, the Games should be for adults. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ > D

RE: Sore losers

2008-08-27 Thread Pat Mathews
ECTED] > Subject: Sore losers > To: brin-l@mccmedia.com > > ---Pat Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Training is fine; competition at the Olympic level and the > > training necessary for *that* is too much for growing > > bodies. Vault and beam are fine -

RE: Sore losers

2008-08-27 Thread Pat Mathews
> At 03:13 PM Wednesday 8/27/2008, Pat Mathews wrote: > > > >Ah. Gotcha. Yeah - we played sports, but today? Play? What's that? > >Something you make a playdate for. Don't get me started; I think my > >grandbabies are hideously overprotected. > > >

RE: Sore losers

2008-08-29 Thread Pat Mathews
Nationalism is just another step in the ladder of "Me and Not-Me," "Family and Not-Family", "Tribe and Not-Tribe".And what is the next step after nationalism? Judging from history and what I see around me, something very similar to "Citizen and Not-Citizen". A Citizen being defined as anyone of

RE: Free Market

2008-09-12 Thread Pat Mathews
"Who cares if the mice nibble the crust, as long as the bread is still there?" Mercedes Lackey, "Storm Breaking" http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ > Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:22:30 -0400 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: brin-l@mccmedia.com > Subject: Re: Free Market > > On Fri, Sep 12, 200

RE: ZPG

2008-09-17 Thread Pat Mathews
We used to have fifty such testing environments, until the feds decided they had to micromanage us under the "Interstate commerce" clause - their excuse being that any fungible items could end up in interstate commerce. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: br

RE: Monotonous posting

2008-10-20 Thread Pat Mathews
Ditto. Grrr... is a Billy Goat Gruff walking on MY bridge? http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: brin-l@mccmedia.com > Subject: Re: Monotonous posting > Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:43:02 -0700 > > >What will cause people to leave this list is trolls who have noth

RE: One more bit for Veterans Day

2008-11-12 Thread Pat Mathews
At least according to the local TV news tonight, they now have a first-rate veterinary facility to treat their wounds. There were probably times when they would have just been shot. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: brin-l@mccmedia.com > Subject: Re: One

Re: New Goodall

2006-03-10 Thread PAT MATHEWS
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006, William T Goodall wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/williamgoodall/PhotoAlbum19.html Some pictures. What a beauty she is! How large is she? Julia Nice looking dog! Hound. Pat ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/list

It's....

2006-03-10 Thread PAT MATHEWS
Souza? Marching bands? A tune comes up, but not, I think, Souza's period. However, to increase the anachronism by a factor of three... It's a long way from Rome to Carthage It's a long way to go It's a long way from Rome to Carthage And a puella that I know Fareweel, the Forum Boarum (Goodbye,

RE: It's....

2006-03-10 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: "Jim Sharkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: RE: It's Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:28:42 -0500 (EST) PAT MATHEWS wrote: >Souza? Marching bands? A tune comes up, but not, I think, Souza's >period.

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