Slate Article (pointer copied from sl4 list)

2004-03-06 Thread Keith Henson
Amusing article--Keith Henson http://slate.msn.com/id/2096491/entry/2096506/ How Will the Universe End? A cosmic detective story about the demise of the world, in three parts. By Jim Holt ... What could our descendants possibly look like a trillion trillion trillion years from now, when the

War Gods?

2004-03-07 Thread Keith Henson
gods would probably be better. I am not far from having the first draft of this article done. If any are interested in reviewing the draft, send me a note. Keith Henson ** Evolutionary Psychology, Memes, The Origin of War, and Empowering Women (Tentative title) By H. Keith Henson

Re: I think I almost died last night

2004-03-08 Thread Keith Henson
At 02:35 PM 08/03/04 -0600, you wrote: Since I've been posting during the day, I'm sure most of you guessed that I'm not at work today. snip It sound like you did inhale a tiny bit of reflux. That will certainly cause what you experienced

RE: Terrorists Win in Spain

2004-03-16 Thread Keith Henson
ping half (or more) of the people in Iraq with US citizens just might be insane enough to work. All of this is going on way out of our environment of evolutionary adaption--so take even the humor parts with a grain of salt. Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

zebras' muscles

2004-03-22 Thread Keith Henson
Cooperation urged on invasives AIBS meeting participants say US Department of Homeland Security could coordinate efforts | By Eugene Russo WASHINGTON, DC—Policymakers are not doing nearly enough to curb the negative ecological and economic consequences of invasive species, biologists said sni

RE: Winning the War on Terror

2004-03-28 Thread Keith Henson
expands. More detail if anyone wants it. Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth

2004-03-29 Thread Keith Henson
er to kill all the opposition males and take the females on as extra wives. That's no longer politically correct. Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Rating the Presidents Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth

2004-03-30 Thread Keith Henson
At 08:32 AM 30/03/04 -0500, you wrote: At 06:55 PM 3/29/2004 -0500 Keith Henson wrote: > Bush is considered to be (and >might be) the worst president in US history. By whom? Google Results 1 - 10 of about 1,080 for "worst president in US history" Bush. (0.22 seconds) to be fair,

Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-01 Thread Keith Henson
he US will see massive public support for attacks that will kill millions, perhaps hundreds of millions. Hunter gatherer tribes would sometimes kill everyone in an attacking tribe though they usually just killed the males. Will it go that

RE: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread Keith Henson
ased argument that humans have conditionally activated psychological traits that (among other things) massively impair rational thinking. This is because genes that turned off rational thinking in some circumstances did better over the long haul. If you can find a flaw in my reasoning on this

RE: Meta Level (was Winning the War on Terror)

2004-04-02 Thread Keith Henson
At 02:32 PM 02/04/04 -0800, you wrote: > Keith Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wrote one of the earliest popular articles on > memes "MEMETICS AND THE MODULAR-MIND" in Analog >(1987). snip I put the pointers up for historical context. light. Even if they we

RE: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-02 Thread Keith Henson
rs. This way of thinking about the brain, mind, and behavior is changing how scientists approach old topics, and opening up new ones." Did the expansion below help? You are welcome to ask questions, people on other lists have discussed this till it became clear to them. Keith Henson >

Re: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-03 Thread Keith Henson
of direct selection for psychological traits that happened over appropriate time scales. "Appropriate time scale" would be the time when our ancestors were living at the ecological limit as hunter gatherers in small tribes--upwards of a million years. With me so far? Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-04 Thread Keith Henson
if you could tie it into the environment of evolutionary adaption. I.e., when humans and their line lived as hunter gatherers. Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-06 Thread Keith Henson
At 05:01 PM 06/04/04 -0400, you wrote: Keith Henson wrote that times of trouble tend to make for a spread in xenophobic notions. He said that idea came from evolutionary psychology. Regarding evolutionary psychology, Gautam Mukunda wrote My problem ... It struck me as a "just so&q

Re: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-06 Thread Keith Henson
d the war fades out. Talks about nasty disfunctional feedback loops! Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-07 Thread Keith Henson
At 02:31 PM 07/04/04 -0400, you wrote: Keith Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote It's worst than that. The natives of Easter Island ... went at each other with rocks ... True, but that tells us nothing as to whether the capability of developing `xenophobic memes' comes

Re: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-10 Thread Keith Henson
At 08:43 AM 09/04/04 -02-30, you wrote: From: Keith Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 20:12:43 -0400 We know

RE: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-10 Thread Keith Henson
At 03:14 PM 09/04/04 -0700, you wrote: Keith Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip I think an argument can be made that - in terms of expansion of genes and memes - war _is_ adaptive when one culture is technologically more advanced than the other; the above is rather like the MAD sc

Re: Meta Level was Winning the War on Terror

2004-04-12 Thread Keith Henson
At 10:16 PM 12/04/04 +, you wrote: --===1943412254== (I just received your message of 7 April.) Keith Henson wrote The model of evolutionary psychology ... is that any observed feature in a species is either the direct result of the feature being selected or it is a

Re: Brin: More on the environmental movement

2004-04-23 Thread Keith Henson
At 06:18 PM 22/04/04 -0700, you wrote: Thanks for sending this. My response is complex so please let me put it into context. snip >... and so on. The latest, attacking Kerrey's war >record, shows just how biliously crazy these people >are. > >6) It is rooted, of course, in the us-vs-them >attitu

Re: "It's not my problem"

2004-05-11 Thread Keith Henson
rator. Above all, thou shalt not be a bystander." --Holocaust Museum But the reality is that the number of people who be anything but bystanders when they see vicious injustice being done is too small to have an effect even on a relatively small (40-50k tops in the USA) cult like scientology. Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

2004-05-09 Thread Keith Henson
#x27;s see. There are about 100 million people who pay taxes in the US. So each 100 people's share would be $25,000, or $250 per taxpayer. Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Disturbing evidence of torture

2004-05-08 Thread Keith Henson
red" or not? If your tribe gets attacked, it pay your genes to attack back, even to take high risks of being killed while defending your tribe because the alternative--being killed--is worse for your genes.. Evolutionary psychology is really a bleak science. Keith Henson PS. We need

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

2004-05-04 Thread Keith Henson
At 10:26 PM 04/05/04 -0500, ulia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip At the risk of drawing a lot of fire from all quarters: It occurred to me that perhaps the thing to do is to identify all the people who participated in the torture-for-amusement, and turn them over to the Iraqi people. Some

Re: The Savage Solution

2004-05-19 Thread Keith Henson
lites, back in the mid to late 70s. Given the current power structure, I don't know what would be harder to put over, female empowerment/reducing the birth rate or displacing oil as an energy source. Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: The Savage Solution

2004-05-20 Thread Keith Henson
lation of perhaps 20 people). They went at each other for generations till the peak population of 20,000 was reduced to perhaps 1000, and the ecosystem started to recover somewhat. Then, with enough to eat, "war mode" switched off. It is a dire and depressing business to realize that

Re: The Savage Solution

2004-05-20 Thread Keith Henson
cally rewarding. Such a test might be used to sort out the women who really did fall down a flight of stairs from the battered ones. Keith Henson PS. 40 years ago I was amused by a story told by the husband of a women who was battered *once.* After her husband went to bed, she knocked him in t

Re: The Savage Solution

2004-05-22 Thread Keith Henson
At 11:06 PM 21/05/04 -0500, you wrote: - Original Message - From: "Keith Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 9:22 PM Subject: Re: The Savage Solution > Now I can't see *any* logic f

Re: Bullying and Battering

2004-05-23 Thread Keith Henson
ie, head of the Crusade, ordered that everyone, all Catholics and Cathars, be killed, even his own men, since "God will know his own." 20,000 were killed." http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathar Second, Bruderhof abuse in Google lists almost 3000 pages. Keith Henson _

Re: Bullying and Battering

2004-05-25 Thread Keith Henson
mental space to make infection with a dangerous parasite less likely. (This may be less true in today's memetic ecosystem than it was in the past.) Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Cults vs Religions, was Bullying and Battering

2004-05-25 Thread Keith Henson
At 11:09 PM 25/05/04 -0400, you wrote: Keith Henson wrote: snip > The distinction between cults and religions is real and useful. Cults are > outright parasites, religions are the same mental parasites that have > co-evolved with their hosts long enough to become more useful tha

Re: Cults vs Religions, was Bullying and Battering

2004-05-26 Thread Keith Henson
At 07:45 AM 26/05/04 -0400, David wrote: Keith Henson wrote: snip > You might be right on this point, but there were a lot of dangerous cults > about in the past. For example the children's crusades in 1212 resulted in > a few tens of thousands dying. So the claim would be t

Re: Cults vs Religions, was Bullying and Battering

2004-05-26 Thread Keith Henson
At 09:38 PM 26/05/04 -0400, I wrote: Try scientology discordians OTO masons mormons in Google. Sorry, Google.groups. Keith ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Archbishop Chaput of Denver

2004-06-06 Thread Keith Henson
een part of the body of Christ when he was alive. Of course the same number would have been part of Judas and every other person who lived at the time. Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Brin: Memes

2004-06-18 Thread Keith Henson
ss" is a luxury that technologically advanced peoples have developed largely because they have been without widespread privation for a long time. Comment David? Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Terrorism too close to home...

2004-07-26 Thread Keith Henson
d into your fricking genes. Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Terrorism too close to home...

2004-07-26 Thread Keith Henson
If you want to go further, David Buss's books starting with "Evolution of Desire," Axelrod's "Evolution of Cooperation," and at least one of William Calvin's books, "Ascent of Mind" being a bit dated but very good. Round this out with some of Jane Goo

Re: marketing is evil, why it must be eradicated

2004-08-24 Thread Keith Henson
And if you're asking for volunteers for the firing squad, I can hit a dime at 100 yards. That should be just fine, after recalculating angular differences for diameter relative to distance, for hitting a marketer's brain at 6 feet, using a Howitzer. My wife has a comment on this. Brainw

Re: Rape (was: The Mercies of The Vatican)

2004-09-04 Thread Keith Henson
ons of genes (traits) should be expected to fail. Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: KEP part 2 L3

2004-09-06 Thread Keith Henson
ading to humans were no longer predated upon by the big cats so we had to become our own predators.) So if you don't want Houston to turn into a situation like the Sudan, keep the population growth below the economic growth. This involves empowering women and being sure they have the technolo

Re: KEP part 2 L3

2004-09-06 Thread Keith Henson
At 03:39 PM 06/09/04 -0500, you wrote: - Original Message - From: "Keith Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 3:06 PM Subject: Re: KEP part 2 L3 > At 10:09 AM 06/09/04 -0500,

Re: The Mercies of The Vatican

2004-09-06 Thread Keith Henson
ary's house, but that's *nothing* compared to being baptized by Satan! Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Book Review "Nano" No spoilers (not much to spoil)

2004-09-09 Thread Keith Henson
just as exciting. As Dr. Vinge says, it will make a spectacular movie. But if you know even a little about science or engineering reading the book will irritate the heck out of you. Keith Henson PS If you want an example of high adventure that does not violate physical laws try _The Revoluti

Fwd: some thoughts and quotes.

2004-09-13 Thread Keith Henson
Here's a thought: Ghengiz Khan's genes appear in 8% of modern Chinese population - that's an amazing new finding indicating how systematically and effectively he used his harem. Probably more effectively than any other ruler. I don't think it was the Chinese population. I think it was central

Re: Fwd: some thoughts and quotes.

2004-09-14 Thread Keith Henson
At 12:05 AM 14/09/04 -0400, you wrote: Here's a thought: Ghengiz Khan's genes appear in 8% of modern Chinese population - that's an amazing new finding indicating how systematically and effectively he used his harem. Probably more effectively than any other ruler. I don't think it was the Chine

Re: Topics of interest.

2004-09-14 Thread Keith Henson
his email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] And please send me a blind cc. If you want to spread this to other places/list, please do. I was going to put this information on a web site, www.operatingthetan.com, but the guy who runs that is awful busy at the moment. Much appreciate your mentioning my plight

Re: Topics of interest.

2004-09-14 Thread Keith Henson
at happened in the States, no matter how gross. Some of you know me in real life and many by my writing and reputation. How you know me and how long is worth mentioning. Much thanks, Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Of interest to authors?

2004-10-17 Thread Keith Henson
iction. There is nothing like functional MRI to gain "insight" into how minds work. :-) Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: One Flu over the Cookoo's Nest

2004-10-21 Thread Keith Henson
At 10:57 PM 20/10/04 -0700, Doug wrote: They could, of course, salvage the whole lot by treating it with radiation. Keith Think the shortage of flu vaccine is just bad luck? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18795-2004Oct8.html Britain: U.S. Told Of Vaccine Shortage LONDON, Oct. 8 -- B

Re: Who does GWB think he is?

2004-10-22 Thread Keith Henson
unting and raising kids for the *next* cycle. There is more of this depressing subject, but unless someone wants more I will cut it off here. Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Who does GWB think he is?

2004-10-23 Thread Keith Henson
At 08:26 PM 22/10/04 -0700, Nick wrote: Keith Henson wrote: I think that if you want to try to understand why humans do things you have to look at how our psychological mechanisms were shaped in the EEA, the environment of evolutionary adaption. I have to? There's no other way? ;-) N

Re: Permission Slips Re: blah, blah, blah . . .

2005-05-05 Thread Keith Henson
nt for the friendly AI project. Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Permission Slips Re: blah, blah, blah . . .

2005-05-06 Thread Keith Henson
up in the last 30 years that's an amazing statement. Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Garry Kasparov was a Steel-Drivin' Man...

2005-05-06 Thread Keith Henson
into rock for explosives, not track laying machines. Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Garry Kasparov was a Steel-Drivin' Man...

2005-05-06 Thread Keith Henson
ve *never* seen this, but your might be right. It has been a really long time since I was a kid. Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Garry Kasparov was a Steel-Drivin' Man...

2005-05-06 Thread Keith Henson
At 01:11 PM 06/05/05 -0700, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On May 6, 2005, at 6:39 AM, Keith Henson wrote: At 02:52 AM 06/05/05 -0700, Warren Ockrassa wrote: snip This reminds me of the Ballad of John Henry. You might or might not know it; the story is that John Henry, who worked on railroads in the

Re: Garry Kasparov was a Steel-Drivin' Man...

2005-05-06 Thread Keith Henson
At 09:35 PM 06/05/05 -0400, Maru wrote: On 5/6/05, Keith Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 11:50 AM 06/05/05 -0400, Maru wrote: > snip > Can you go on Google and point out a few places where John Henry is up > against a "track laying machine" or driving spikes t

Re: Keith Henson update

2005-09-23 Thread Keith Henson
See if this fixes the return address. - ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Evolutionary Psychology, Memes and the Origin of War

2006-04-25 Thread Keith Henson
I have not been posting here much for a while, sorry to drop this out of the blue on the list http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2006/4/17/194059/296 but it is about topics that have been discussed here recently. Best wishes, Keith Henson ___ http

The war against the Cult?

2006-04-25 Thread Keith Henson
At 12:00 PM 4/25/2006 -0700, you wrote: > On Behalf Of Keith Henson > > I have not been posting here much for a while... How goes the war against the Cult? Better since Tom Cruise "jumped the couch" and South Park took them on. They seem to be doing a fair job of self

Political correctness taken way too far.

2006-05-13 Thread Keith Henson
Newcastle University authorities following complaints from vegetarians. Nikolas Lloyd, who was granted IT services as a visiting fellow in evolutionary psychology, has had all his pages taken down and his email access rescinded. *** The guy is very funny. Ke

New diet

2007-01-05 Thread Keith Henson
A friend sent me this, but I am sure she got if from somewhere else. Keith Henson I was in Walmart buying a large bag of Purina for Lola and was in line to check out. A woman behind me asked if I had a dog Duh! I was feeling a bit crabby so on impulse, I told her no, I was starting The

Re: US Rejected Offer From Iran

2007-01-19 Thread Keith Henson
rst place. The article goes onto mention that pretty much >everything Iran was offering is what we are "demanding" now. Sheesh. > >Are these guys completely incompetent or are they going out of their way >to make sure the Middle East is f*cked up for years and years to come??? It&

Space elevator presentation

2007-03-09 Thread Keith Henson
I know I should just give you a URL for this, but I don't have a place at the moment to hang a half megabyte presentation (the data bulk is in the pictures, it's only 17 slides). It was given Feb 28 at an ESA conference. If anyone wants a copy and has enough space in their mailbox, let me know.

Re: Space elevator presentation

2007-03-10 Thread Keith Henson
It's now up. http://eugen.leitl.org/A-2000-tonne-per-day-Space-Elevator1.ppt ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Henson's adventures.

2007-04-10 Thread Keith Henson
Some of you follow my adventures with the clam cult. This is the latests. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/d2ef82e36c8140e2?hl=en&; And this is what else I do. http://eugen.leitl.org/A-2000-tonne-per-day-Space-Elevator1.ppt Keith ___

There might be a way out

2007-04-13 Thread Keith Henson
-day-Space-Elevator1.ppt Free viewer for power point if you don't have one: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=428D5727-43AB-4F24-90B7-A94784AF71A4 If you are interested, ask questions. Keith Henson ___

Industrialization (was conspiracy theories)

2007-04-17 Thread Keith Henson
--that could sustain world wide "industrialization." The problem is to get there before there is a disaster or three. I can go into detail if you like. Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Industrialization (was conspiracy theories)

2007-04-24 Thread Keith Henson
At 12:00 PM 4/24/2007 -0700, Leonard Matusik wrote: snip >Right Sport! I really enjoyed "Small is Beautifull" >by ef Schumacher, myself Ah, no. This involves structures far larger than anything human have yet built. Google "2000 tonnes" "space elevator&q

Re Cost of conservation

2007-05-01 Thread Keith Henson
ople dying. The long term alternatives to abundant energy are fairly well understood, but there is little public push for them. Keith Henson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Problem with NASA

2009-03-25 Thread Keith Henson
possible dates. Keith Henson ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: Freeman Dyson on climate

2009-03-27 Thread Keith Henson
It makes no difference in what we need to do no matter what you think about global warming. The global models indicate that energy shortage will kill far more people much sooner than global warming can be a significant factor. However, if you solve the energy problem on a global scale, fixing glo

New paper Beamed Energy and the Economics of Space Based Solar Power

2009-10-19 Thread Keith Henson
This is very late draft full of graphs taken off the physics spread sheet models if anyone wants a copy to review. It lays out in detail how to get SBSP down to 2 cents per kWh or less and how to get the project started to self sustaining stage a modest number of tens of billions. If you have an

Fwd: Intelligence Explained

2009-10-26 Thread Keith Henson
Most of you have probably seen this, but better an extra copy than none at all. Keith http://www.technologyreview.com/biomedicine/23695/ == November/December 2009 Intelligence Explained Tracking and understanding the complex connections within the b

RE: How to tell if a star has planets?

2009-11-15 Thread Keith Henson
Go there and look. Keith ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Back, ref to David Brin

2010-01-08 Thread Keith Henson
I haven't had time to read Brin-l for a while. Condolences to Nick Arenett. Good ideas by Woozle, I read both pages. One of these years the last person will die (involuntarily) and the world will be a different place. While looking for web links for another mailing list (to go with an announcem

Re: Br?n on global warming

2010-02-15 Thread Keith Henson
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Trent Shipley wrote: snip > If you want to solve global warming it better not cost me my job, > increase my electricity bill, make me pay more for transportation, > sacrifice the quality or quantity of my transportation, or otherwise > degrade my lifestyle. > >

Re: Br?n on global warming

2010-02-18 Thread Keith Henson
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: > On 13/02/2010, at 7:05 AM, Keith Henson wrote: >> >> I could go into detail including the economic models, but I don't know >> if there is anyone on this list who can follow the physics, chemistry >> and

Re: Br?n on global warming

2010-02-18 Thread Keith Henson
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: > Keith Henson wrote: >> >> I could go into detail including the economic models, but I don't know >> if there is anyone on this list who can follow the physics, chemistry >> and math

Re: Br?n on global warming

2010-02-19 Thread Keith Henson
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: > > > On 18/02/2010, at 11:29 AM, Keith Henson wrote: snip >>> You'd be surprised. My maths isn't great (ie i'm not a natural >>> mathematician), but my chemistry is fine... >> >> The

Re: Br?n on global warming (paper)

2010-02-21 Thread Keith Henson
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Keith Henson wrote: > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:00 PM,  Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro > wrote: > >> Keith Henson wrote: >>> >>> I could go into detail including the economic models, but I don't know >>> if

Social solutions rather than engineering ones

2010-02-21 Thread Keith Henson
I am appalled (though not surprised) that people on this list who "don't have any answers" suggest "it might just require the end of wasteful materialism" and joke about soylent green. Energy hungry synthetic nitrogen is the reason for something between 1/3 and 1/2 of crop yield. The ending of fa

Re: Social solutions rather than engineering ones

2010-02-23 Thread Keith Henson
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Michael Harney wrote: > > Keith Henson wrote: >> I am appalled (though not surprised) that people on this list who >> "don't have any answers" suggest "it might just require the end of >> wasteful materialism" and

Re: The Story of Stuff

2010-04-01 Thread Keith Henson
Unanswered, unasked even, is why people want stuff? The answer requires evolutionary psychology and the history of what selection pressures our ancestors were under. If anyone can't construct the story of why we want stuff and would like to hear it, let me know. Keith H

Apprehension, was listmail

2010-05-03 Thread Keith Henson
This list may have somewhat of the same kind of problem science fiction does in general. The problem is runaway technology. Think of how long painting and story telling lasted. Movies are still using film, but that's rapidly coming to an end VHS tape is about gone after decades. DVD replaced t

Re: replacing fossil fuels

2010-06-14 Thread Keith Henson
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:00 AM, "Dan Minette" wrote: > Earlier I had reported that the events in the Gulf were unprecedented, a > "black swan".  Since then, folks in the oil patch are still incredulous, but > are increasingly upset with BP breaking the rules of the game. snip (excellent mater

RE: replacing fossil fuels

2010-07-02 Thread Keith Henson
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:00 AM, "Dan Minette" wrote: (keith) >>US usage is around 20 M bbl/day, world production around 80 M bbl/day. >>If this thing gets loose in the sea, BPs disaster would seem like >>nothing.  Better to hope it can't be done. > > I raised that question with Gautam, who is

RE: replacing fossil fuels

2010-07-04 Thread Keith Henson
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 11:00 AM, "Dan Minette" wrote: > -Original Message- > From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On > Behalf Of Keith Henson > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 3:09 PM Wonder where this hung out for over two weeks b

RE: replacing fossil fuels

2010-07-05 Thread Keith Henson
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 11:00 AM, "Dan Minette" wrote: [Dan] >>In fact, the candidates that now exist require a rare supplement that >>isn't found in ocean water. ?It won't be costly to supply it, but they >>don't grow without it. ?It's kinda like worrying that corn will displace >>the woodlands

Re: Tea Party Racism

2010-07-27 Thread Keith Henson
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 5:00 AM, Bruce Bostwick wrote: > On Jul 26, 2010, at 11:58 AM, zwil...@zwilnik.com wrote: snip >> Don't overlook what is called "dog whistle" political statements. >> This names comes from the well-known phenomenon that a highly- >> pitched whistle will be heard by dogs

Really cheap energy

2010-09-08 Thread Keith Henson
http://www.slideshare.net/chris8649/stratosolar-overview http://www.zinzzu.com/stratosolar.html If this works as advertised, there will be no economic reason to build SBSP. Keith ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

StratoSolar

2010-10-11 Thread Keith Henson
cs and economics analysis and seems to deserve serious further study. Keith Henson ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: Brin-l Digest, Vol 21, Issue 9

2010-10-12 Thread Keith Henson
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:00 AM, "Dan Minette" wrote: > To: "'Killer Bs \(David Brin et al\) Discussion'" > > Just a quick point. > >>Run 80,000 hours in ten years the return is $800 per kW >>per penny payment for a kWh.  For power satellites, assuming 5kg/kW, >>$100 per kg lifted to GEO and abo

Re: Brin-l Digest, Vol 21, Issue 11

2010-10-14 Thread Keith Henson
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:00 AM, David Hobby wrote: > Hi.  Thanks for the details.  I started thinking about > the problem. > >> It depends on the acceptance angle and the diameter of the light pipe. > > I'll give you that the spread for light come out of the > whole array and into the pipe is

Re: Brin-l Digest, Vol 21, Issue 22

2010-10-20 Thread Keith Henson
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:01 AM, John Williams wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: >> It was not an easy decision to seek a loan modification.  But the >> ethics of it are not as black-and-white as you say. > > It absolutely is that simple. A honest, responsible pers

RE: Underwater mortgages and the economy (Dan Minette)

2010-11-01 Thread Keith Henson
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:00 AM, "Dan Minette" wrote: snip > Third, to get out of this, the US needs a positive black swan to change all > the rules again.  This will soak up investment capitol, with a real return > on investment, because wealth will be created.  Until it comes, we're > treadi

Energy projects was Underwater mortgages and the economy

2010-11-02 Thread Keith Henson
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:00 AM, "Dan Minette" wrote: snip > This is not a "black swan" type of new technology that comes out of nowhere, > where costs come down a factor of two every year or two, etc.  Its old > technology, long promised as just around the corner.  It will be very good > at pr

RE: Energy projects was Underwater mortgages and the economy

2010-11-03 Thread Keith Henson
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:00 AM, wrote: snip > I looked at the articles you provided, and I noted, without surprise, that > they omitted a very key detail: laser efficiency.  In typical everyday > usage, lasers are not very efficient.  Even in high tech uses, such as > inertia fusion, particle

Selection was Arguing Doesn't Work: Fact Vs Belief

2010-11-21 Thread Keith Henson
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Michael Harney wrote: snip > Or, an idea may have > negative survival value for the individual, but positive value for the > group. ex: the Aztecs would sacrifice people to the gods during times of > famine to try and appease the gods to end the famine. I thi

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