Re: [L3] Re: Scouted: Protecting Creation on Earth Day

2004-05-11 Thread Gary Denton
On Tue, 11 May 2004 13:37:09 -0700 (PDT), Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I > > think I'm being fair in paraphrasing her concluding > > thought by saying that she suggests that in the

Re: Not All Bad

2004-05-11 Thread Gary Denton
That has become pretty common on local news and newspapers. I have seen it three times now, once on TV. On Tue, 11 May 2004 05:25:10 -0500, Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.drudgereport.com/iiraq.htm > > Here's an image you will not see in the NEW YORKER or on 60 MIN

Re: Beheading Avenges Prison Abuse

2004-05-11 Thread Gary Denton
On Tue, 11 May 2004 19:58:26 -0500, Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...> http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040511/D82GL8V00.html http://pennlive.com/newsflash/pa/index.ssf?/base/news-16/108430077760820.xml > > The family of an American civilian shown beheaded on an Islamic > militant W

Re: Beheading Avenges Prison Abuse

2004-05-12 Thread Gary Denton
On Wed, 12 May 2004 00:20:18 -0400, Matthew and Julie Bos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 5/11/04 8:58 PM, "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The Other Shoe Maru > > As much as I like tag lines, this one gets me. These people can kill a man > on video, and you can go ahead an

Re: Beheading Avenges Prison Abuse

2004-05-13 Thread Gary Denton
ed sound bites that their policies helped those with lower incomes. Gary Denton Notebook - http://elemming.blogspot.com Easter Lemming Liberal News Digest http://elemming2.blogspot.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Re: right-wingers favorite company Wal-Mart fined for Clean Water Act violations

2004-05-13 Thread Gary Denton
On Wed, 12 May 2004 23:27:21 -0400, Matthew and Julie Bos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 5/12/04 11:08 PM, "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The fine was the largest civil penalty ever against a company for storm > > water runoff violations. Officials said they hoped the settlement w

Re: Finding the Future

2004-05-13 Thread Gary Denton
At first I thought this was refering to the 1997 documentary - The Sci-Fi Files 'Living in the Future' . I picked up 'Living in the Future' for either $3 or $5 dollars. Seemed worthwhile at that price. I later found it was supposed to be part of a 4 video series. Lots of movie clips, interviews w

Re: Neanderthal

2004-05-13 Thread Gary Denton
On Thu, 13 May 2004 12:18:39 -0700 (PDT), Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 03:58 PM 5/11/04, Deborah Harrell wrote: > Debbi > whose younger brother parodied "Yesterday" with > "Leprosy" ('I'm not half the man I used to be' etc. --

Re: The Lost Hearts and Minds

2004-05-09 Thread Gary Denton
On Sun, 9 May 2004 06:05:17 -0700, Mike Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unappreciated Messiah wrote: > > Gary Denton, disowning responsibility: > > > Mike Lee ignoring the title and head of the post. > > > > This is what we have now caused our supporters in Iraq to thin

Newsweek - The Price of Arrogance

2004-05-09 Thread Gary Denton
In a war that could go on for decades, you cannot simply detain people indefinitely on the sole authority of the secretary of Defense http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4933882/ The basic attitude taken by Rumsfeld, Cheney and their top aides has been "We're at war; all these niceties will have to wait.

Re: New Hate-Mongering Chick Tract is out

2004-05-09 Thread Gary Denton
Old fashioned traditional marriage http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/opinion/tolestom/?name=Toles&date=20040331 gary ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Kurt Vonnegut on the state of the world

2004-05-14 Thread Gary Denton
s I've read is science fiction although you will not find him in the science fiction section of the library. Gary Denton Notebook - http://elemming.blogspot.com Easter Lemming Liberal News Digest http://elemming2.blogspot.com On Fri, 14 May 2004 13:18:29 -0500, Julia Thompson <[EMAIL P

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

2004-05-07 Thread Gary Denton
On Thu, 6 May 2004 20:33:41 -0700, Mike Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Gary Denton, putting me in "Oh, Please!" mode: It's a start. > > > > Mike Lee > > > Savior of the Masses writes: > > Like all true Saviors, the masses loathe me. S

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

2004-05-07 Thread Gary Denton
On Fri, 7 May 2004 02:20:34 -0500, Gary Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Washington Post - > > The lawlessness began in January 2002 when Mr. Rumsfeld publicly > declared that hundreds of people detained by U.S. and allied forces in > Afghanistan "do not have an

Re: The Worst Thing Nixon Ever Did

2004-05-07 Thread Gary Denton
On Thu, 06 May 2004 20:06:54 -0700, Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote quoting > > http://www.techcentralstation.com/041504I.html ~~~ Doug, DDT was banned in the United States for obvious reasons and all but a few have hailed that decision. ÂThose few are now getting funding from anti

The Oil Crunch

2004-05-07 Thread Gary Denton
Before the start of the Iraq war his media empire did so much to promote, Rupert Murdoch explained the payoff: "The greatest thing to come out of this for the world economy, if you could put it that way, would be $20 a barrel for oil." Crude oil prices in New York rose to almost $40 a barrel yester

Re: More on the environmental movement

2004-05-07 Thread Gary Denton
On Fri, 7 May 2004 03:55:48 -0500, The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > "Indeed, Neanderthal skeletons resemble cretins far > more closely than they resemble healthy modern > humans," Dobson wrote in the journal article. > "Conversely, cretin skel

Re: Red rain result of meteor explosion?

2004-05-08 Thread Gary Denton
Another scientist going outside his field. Red dust was wind picking up sand and dust from the Middle East. The odd structures that he thought was alien life was really that he didn't know biology and chemistry. http://www.sciscoop.com/story/2004/5/1/92822/77787 http://www.indiaexpress.com/news/

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

2004-05-08 Thread Gary Denton
On Fri, 7 May 2004 20:30:00 -0700, Messiah Mike Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't quite get what your point is here. Somewhere in there, I supposed > you think that the GOP is worse than Stalin, but other than that, I'm > baffled. Baffled Mike Lee throws in that somehow people who oppose hi

The Lost Hearts and Minds

2004-05-08 Thread Gary Denton
Baghdad Burning is a blog from an interesting intelligent woman living in Baghdad. She hated Saddam and supported the US coming in and kicking him out. Lately she has been changing her mind. I've edited some of her thoughts today: I don't understand the 'shock' Americans claim to feel at the luri

Re: Screensavers, Call For Help - RIP

2004-05-08 Thread Gary Denton
Damn, I don't have cable now but they had a great cast and a hip, not hype, attitude. http://elemming.blogspot.com http://elemming2.blogspot.com On Fri, 7 May 2004 18:01:43 -0500, Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: The Barbie Experiment

2004-05-08 Thread Gary Denton
On Fri, 7 May 2004 17:44:13 -0500, Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.cindyjackson.com/my_surgery.php > Did not use Michael Jackson's advice. > xponent > Early Transhuman Studies Maru > rob I was just commenting elsewhere how much I hate plastic surgery and you bring this up

Re: Ultimate Chutzpah

2004-04-28 Thread Gary Denton
he Senate that same day he wanted cut from the intelligence spending bill based on unspent, secret funds that had been accumulated by one intelligence agency "without informing the Pentagon, CIA or Congress." The NRO, which designs, builds and operates spy satellites, had accumulated that a

Re: Collected thoughs on Iraq

2004-04-28 Thread Gary Denton
The problem is much more in poll spinning than in how the poll was done. The creator of one poll himself felt compelled to make the media rounds after Cheney and the American Enterprise Institute totally twisted the results. http://www.guardian.co.uk/analysis/story/0,3604,1073022,00.html I foun

Re: NY Times article on people with Asperger's

2004-04-29 Thread Gary Denton
I haven't minded the NYT registration and at least I have a method to get permanent links to stories with them. This is not to say that the Pravda on the Hudson has good reporters. It is the opposite of the WSJ, the Gray Lady has many poor reporters but some excellent editorial staff. The WSJ h

Re: Ultimate Chutzpah

2004-04-29 Thread Gary Denton
I wanted to check the list out. Funny, I don't see many postings related to Brin. Was also a chance to check out googlemail. On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 06:46:17 -0500, Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > - Original Message - > From: "Gary Dent

Re: March for Women's Lives

2004-04-29 Thread Gary Denton
As a new member can I ask if he is always like this? Is this supposed to be satire? On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:09:27 -0700, Mike Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jim, lobbying less than competently for father of the year: > > > Gosh, Mike, how many kids have you raised? 'Cause we all > > know

Re: Ultimate Chutzpah

2004-04-30 Thread Gary Denton
Google mail - not sure how I like it yet. Love the storage space - 1000 MB. Does not have all the functions of other email services but adds an interesting format and labels instead of folders.  It appears everything stays in your stack until you archive it but you are encouraged to search or fil

Re: War in Space, was Re: Battlestar Galactica

2004-05-01 Thread Gary Denton
You might check out Space Empires 4, highly recommended, as well as Star Fire, Traveler, GURPS Space and other space games. On Sat, 1 May 2004 13:14:42 -0400, Damon Agretto ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

2004-05-01 Thread Gary Denton
Rumsfeld and the Iraqi war team ignored tons of work on how to occupy Iraq.  Detailed plans on the people, material and training needed.   I am not surprised they also decided a seat-of-the-pants operation for war prisoners was also decided on. As Gen. Zinni recently said, it was an open secret b

Re:

2004-05-01 Thread Gary Denton
On Sat, 1 May 2004 06:50:48 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They (correctly) painted a Democrat in Georgia (Max > Cleland) as a bad Senator who had very bad judgment on > national security issues. He lost the election > because of that - as he should have, because he was,

Re: California Bans E-Vote Machines

2004-05-02 Thread Gary Denton
On Sat, 1 May 2004 16:38:06 +, Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You [the USA] are so paranoid. Fraud in elections were > reduced to a minimum after we introduced voting > machines in Brazil Four e-voting lawsuits are now in play; two states are looking into criminal conduct on Di

Re: Media Bias: NPR Smears Kerry

2004-05-03 Thread Gary Denton
It should not be forgotten that the reporter herself attended World Press Institute which had (under some heat they are modifying the goals on the web) as its goals spreading God's Word and guidance to a secular world. Did NPR Religious Reporter Cook Up A Slanted Story? Atrios and his readers fou

Re: Winning the War on Terror

2004-05-03 Thread Gary Denton
>Ritu, who is not sure if Mike really believes what he says or if >he is just good at parody I would filter him out but silence equals assent. But I don't have time to respond to each of his over the top statements. Reminds me of some frequent posters I tracked down who were very popular on right

Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

2004-05-03 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 3 May 2004 06:11:04 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am willing to make a bet that no report of this, or > anything like it, will show up in the supposedly > "independent" news sources that you two rely on. Yes, I like the internet you can get the reports from al

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

2004-05-03 Thread Gary Denton
http://www.prisonexp.org/ Gary http://elemming2.blogspot.com On Mon, 03 May 2004 13:44:01 -0230, Travis Edmunds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >Anyone here ever seen the results of Zambardo's > >Stanford Prison Experiment? > > Do you have a link for that? I'm currently engaged in a debate on this

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

2004-05-03 Thread Gary Denton
Mike Lee: >> All our enemies, including the New York Times and Ted Koppel, are already all over this. Let's also remember that this is hazing, not torture. No wood chippers, no blood splashing all over the place. It's not morally equivalent to what Saddam did (as I've heard several media morons s

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

2004-05-03 Thread Gary Denton
Here is the url - http://www.sundayherald.com/41693 Don't just blame untrained unsupervised Americans either: "The British pictures show a hooded Iraqi aged between 18-20 on the floor of a military truck being brutalised. According to two squaddies who took part in the torture, but later blew th

Re: Winning the War on Terror

2004-05-03 Thread Gary Denton
Fallujah blew up because of American miscalculation. It still exists because the Army doesn't want high American casualty urban street fighting with insufficient troops and the revolt spreading across the country. Just the fact they were fighting and how they were fighting cost America Iraq suppo

Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

2004-05-03 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 3 May 2004 17:47:08 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, they did teach us that Marines don't quiver and > hide. They particularly when they're winning battles. They lost. > You might want to ask, what does it say that your > response to that story was "That so

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

2004-05-03 Thread Gary Denton
I should add that one of the mercenaries conducting the interrogations apparently raped one of the male prisoners. Is that more like Saddam for you Mike? Also, because he was not a soldier but a contractor he isn't facing charges. We don't want to put him in an Iraqi prison, no crime has been co

Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

2004-05-03 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 3 May 2004 10:12:18 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, you have to ask yourself how you feel about > treating the Arab press as reliable. Do you, for > example, believe that the entire war in Iraq is a > Jewish conspiracy launched by sinister "neocons" who > are

Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

2004-05-04 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 03 May 2004 20:58:12 -0500, Steve Sloan II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gary Denton wrote: > > > Well, I learned about the reliability of the American press > > last year when I went to independent sources and found out > > that Iraq had shut do

Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

2004-05-04 Thread Gary Denton
On Tue, 4 May 2004 14:50:33 +1000, Andrew Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think most of us wordly-wise enough to take most of > our media with a good dash of salt. Anyway, we all tend > to believe what we like and not believe what we don't, > in regard to opinions/rumours/slants expressed in th

Re: Brin - On Writing Hard SF

2004-05-04 Thread Gary Denton
Now in Sundiver you have an intel agent scurring about looking for a camera. In 2004 this becomes a very funny line. It's a faux past, and no one has ever shown the ability to avoid having at least a few of them show up as time goes by. Cameras are a big faux past in SF now. It dis

Re: Is it hot in here?

2004-05-04 Thread Gary Denton
No turtles all the way down? Damn, I might as well go back to believing that the universe is one wave particle string looped a google times in time. This is restating Bach's theory of One. That was an easy question about clowns,. they are drunk, the glass is slippery. What about gravity, if ele

Re: Winning the War on Terror

2004-05-04 Thread Gary Denton
> --- > Who are you responding to? Don't snip context. > --- Sorry, gmail always stacks the conversation based on subject and provides no easy way to snip headers. The following was what I was responding to. - 99% of Iraq is still standing for one reason--we could afford to win the war t

Re: Winning the War on Terror

2004-05-04 Thread Gary Denton
From: The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 07:14:45 -0500 Subject: Re: Winning the War on Terror > --- > Who are you responding to? Don't snip context. > --- Thanks, that was actually a u

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

2004-05-05 Thread Gary Denton
On Wed, 5 May 2004 00:10:29 -0700, Mike Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Gary Denton, credulous to the last drop: sticks and stones > > > I should add that one of the mercenaries conducting the > > interrogations apparently raped one of the male prisoners. >

Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

2004-05-05 Thread Gary Denton
On Tue, 04 May 2004 20:10:53 -0500, Steve Sloan II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK, that essentially fixes what I was having so much trouble > buying. I couldn't see any reason why Saddam would quit trying > to build or buy nuclear weapons, because he certainly wouldn't > do it out of the goodne

Re: Is it hot in here?

2004-05-05 Thread Gary Denton
On Tue,  4 May 2004 20:51:28 -0400 (EDT), Jim Sharkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Robert Seeberger wrote: > >> No turtles?! > >No elephants either! > > And without them, our fat mines will run dry! > > Jim > Fifth Elephant Maru Don't worry, our Prez Cheney has a plan. Gary disappointed i

Re: At a Lunar Eclipse

2004-05-05 Thread Gary Denton
On Wed, 5 May 2004 04:58:53 +1000, Andrew Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wish I had written this, > But its ok that someone did, > and I can go outside and watch it. > > Thy shadow, Earth, from Pole to Central Sea, > Now steals along upon the Moon's meek shine > In even monochrome and curv

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

2004-05-05 Thread Gary Denton
On Wed, 5 May 2004 00:10:29 -0700, Mike Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gary Denton, credulous to the last drop: > > Also, because he was not a soldier but a contractor he isn't > > facing charges.  We don't want to put him in an Iraqi prison, > > no crime

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

2004-05-05 Thread Gary Denton
On Wed, 5 May 2004 15:34:34 -0500, Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That lack of control in the prison would > > all G. Gordon Liddy types to strut their stuff and give wink and nod > orders > > allow Absolutely, and you are overlooking that the general wasn';t even allowed in that

Re: Irregulars: Sending messages on days your computer wasn't on

2004-05-05 Thread Gary Denton
Yes, that was spoofing. The big worms this year all spoof the sending address and yours can be harvested and passed along. You end up getting spam virus attacks and auto virus responders as well. My yahoo account was getting overwhelmed until Yahoo switched to not counting Spam in the memory limi

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

2004-05-05 Thread Gary Denton
On Wed, 5 May 2004 16:58:23 -0500, Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I read the report that is the source of most information and didn't see any > indication that she wasn't allowed in that part of the prison.  I certainly > got the impression that she didn't practice management by walking a

Re: March for Women's Lives

2004-05-05 Thread Gary Denton
On Wed, 05 May 2004 11:46:44 -0500, Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You know, whoever he is might be a generally nice guy who just needs to > bloe off steam, or enjoys a good argument (and if it's the latter, we > might not be doing as good a job of it as he'd like). > > I don't thi

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

2004-05-06 Thread Gary Denton
> Mike Lee > Savior of the Masses writes: > Gary Denton, self-loathing American keeps on keeping on: > > There was a systemic and ongoing problem with abuse and even > > deaths of prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan.  This was an > > military intel and CIA operation w

Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

2004-05-06 Thread Gary Denton
On Thu, 6 May 2004 00:55:04 -0700, Mike Lee claiming not to be pussy whipped wrote: > Gary Denton, traitor in waiting: Patriotism isn't screaming at everyone who disagrees with you. > > Neo-imperialist or even, as a couple political scientists > > have pointed, out neo-

Average IQ by state and how they voted in 2000

2004-05-06 Thread Gary Denton
http://americanassembler.com/features/iq_state_averages.htm Wow, in this election right now I see Kerry getting all of the Gore states plus Colorado and Nevada with New Hampshire, Ohio, Florida, Missouri, Arizona, West Virginia, Arkansas, and Louisiana as tossups. Really nonsense of course, what

Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

2004-05-06 Thread Gary Denton
Translations of Arabic works helped spark  the Renaissance but except for some paper, medicine, mathematics and drugs I am not sure what Europeans acquired that was original to the Islamic world. The loss of the great universities and even the manufacturing sites in Spain also had a lot to do with

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

2004-05-08 Thread Gary Denton
Sat, 8 May 2004 23:11:39 +, Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why would the USA torturers _document_ the torture? When > we had state-sponsored torture in Brazil, back in the 70s, > when we were fighting communist by closing brazilian > economy and establishing state monopolies,

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

2004-05-08 Thread Gary Denton
On Sat, 8 May 2004 16:10:51 -0500, Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 10:43 PM > Subject: Re: Disturbing evidence of torture > > > > I mis

Re: The Lost Hearts and Minds

2004-05-08 Thread Gary Denton
On Sat, 8 May 2004 14:43:28 -0700, Mike Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mike Lee ignoring the title and head of the post. This is what we have now caused our supporters in Iraq to think. > You don't know very many people in the military, do you? My nephew is a ranger who just returned from Iraq.

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

2004-05-08 Thread Gary Denton
On Sat, 8 May 2004 14:43:28 -0700, Mike Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This one could be marked as wingnut response number 6. 4) Denial #1: Isolated incident. 5) Denial #2: It was due to a low-level Bureaucrat. Dear leader would never tolerate such behavior. 6) Blame the messenger: You libe

Re: Disturbing evidence of torture

2004-05-08 Thread Gary Denton
On Sat, 8 May 2004 22:18:23 -0500, Gary Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sat, 8 May 2004 23:11:39 +, Alberto Monteiro > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Why would the USA torturers _document_ the torture? When > > we had state-sponsored torture

Re: Yay!

2004-05-16 Thread Gary Denton
On Sat, 15 May 2004 23:18:39 -0400, JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 10:39 AM 5/14/2004 +0530 Ritu wrote: > >BJP with its Hindutva ideology [India is for Hindus, let the muslims be > >aware that they need the goodwill of the hindus to survive and thrive], > > In fairness, it is worth noting

Re: What America Does with its Hegemony

2004-05-18 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 17 May 2004 21:09:51 -0400, JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 06:54 PM 5/13/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote: > >And are you so sure that some in the U.S. don't have > >motives that are less than honest? Whatever their motives, at this point > >it sure looks like the French (Chineese,

Re: Interesting Perspective

2004-05-18 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 17 May 2004 21:29:40 -0400, JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 10:31 PM 5/16/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote: > >"Before the United States launched "the optional war" in Iraq, > >practitioners of nonviolence were advocating concrete alternatives that > >would have sought to depose Sadda

Re: Actual WoMD in Iraq?

2004-05-18 Thread Gary Denton
me. Of course, the opportunity to actually broadcast a find of a chemical artillery shell was probably too good to pass up. Diverts attention from Powell finally conceding that Iraq had no mobile bio-warfare labs as many sources have insisted from the beginning. Gary Denton #1 on Google for liberal

Re: Numbers on the rebuilding of Afghanistan

2004-05-18 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 17 May 2004 20:47:27 -0400, JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just finished a beautiful book written by the Baptist Chaplain for the > First Marine division in Baghdad. If anyone has the chance to read it, I > seriously recommend it. Although written from a Protestant perspective, it > has

Re: Gay marriage update

2004-05-18 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 17 May 2004 20:25:39 -0400, JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 10:55 AM 5/17/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote: > >A few months ago, JDG predicted that the recent push for gay marriages > >would trigger a massive backlash. The opposite seems to be happening. 51% > >of Americans favor eithe

Re: 'Expect less, be happier...?'

2004-05-18 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 17 May 2004 16:52:54 -0700 (PDT), Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One of the regular features of a late-night program > (MadTV?) was commercials for the dating service Yes - > "Lowered Expectations." lowered expectations..., also starts humming. > Lo and behold: > > h

Re: Actual WoMD in Iraq?

2004-05-18 Thread Gary Denton
On Tue, 18 May 2004 20:21:11 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know, it's just possible that the fact that > the Iraqis _actually had chemical weapons_ is little > more significant. Or is that not important? We knew that, Twelve buried shells were discovered earlie

Re: Actual WoMD in Iraq?

2004-05-18 Thread Gary Denton
On Tue, 18 May 2004 23:48:07 -0400, JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 08:21 PM 5/18/2004 -0700 Gautam Mukunda wrote > >I don't know, it's just possible that the fact that > >the Iraqis _actually had chemical weapons_ is little > >more significant. Or is that not important? > > I have no way

Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-19 Thread Gary Denton
On Wed, 19 May 2004 16:39:31 -0500 (CDT), Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 19 May 2004, The Fool wrote: > > -- > > From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Steve Sloan II wrote: > > > > > > Julia Thompson wrote: > > Is he fixing to run for governor? > > --- > >

Re: Good News From Iraq

2004-05-20 Thread Gary Denton
On Wed, 19 May 2004 07:12:55 -0400, John D. Giorgis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > DEMOCRACY TAKES ROOT An article from Feb 15, before the mass uprising began with the closing down of a Baghdad newspaper. Looking further, this whole thing was a compilation of good news articles, next two more from D

Re: Good News From Iraq

2004-05-20 Thread Gary Denton
micks will dent the crisis of trust." http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0513/p11s02-woiq.html Gary Denton #1 on Google for liberal news ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Researchers hail dyslexia breakthrough

2004-05-20 Thread Gary Denton
On Thu, 20 May 2004 15:41:13 +0100, William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/research/story/ > 0,9865,1220980,00.html?=rss > > "Researchers who have monitored a new treatment for dyslexia today > hailed it "as close to a cure as there is". Just by t

Re: Bushworld

2004-05-22 Thread Gary Denton
I couldn't believe anyone found Safire's recent diatribe coherent. http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/editorial/8715776.htm #1 on Google for liberal news On Sat, 22 May 2004 11:02:15 -0700, Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > JDG wrote: > > > At 06:14 PM 5/19/2004 -0500

Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-22 Thread Gary Denton
On Sat, 22 May 2004 12:44:48 -0400, JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 09:57 PM 5/18/2004 -0500 garydenton wrote: > Uhhh. under exactly what basis is "tax-exempt status" a, quote, "right?" > I found nothing in your quoted article about attempts to "disenfranchsie" > Unitarians. As near as I

Re: 'Barbie' drug could make people slim, tanned and sexy

2004-05-22 Thread Gary Denton
On Sat, 22 May 2004 11:10:42 -0500, Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_959566.html?menu=news.scienceanddiscovery > xponent > > Quick 'n' Easy Maru What is with the British media recently? Another article that sounds like it comes from the tablo

Re: Brin : Memory glasses could help wearers find their keys

2004-05-22 Thread Gary Denton
On Sat, 22 May 2004 11:08:17 -0500, Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Shades of Earth > > http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_961376.html?menu=news.scienceanddiscovery > > (With picture) > > British and German scientists are developing memory glasses that > record everything

Re: 4thReichKlans Introduce Fascist Censorship Bill in CA

2004-05-22 Thread Gary Denton
On Sat, 22 May 2004 01:08:56 -0500, The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > <> > > House Bill Threatens Retailers > Parents Can Sue Over Content > > May 21, 2004 > Republican Californian Congressman Duncan Hunter has introduced a bill > titled the "Pa

Re: Tiny life forms?

2004-05-22 Thread Gary Denton
Thank you, Nannobacteria, I have to look up more on this. Gary "Origins" #1 on Google for liberal news On Fri, 21 May 2004 22:04:13 -0500, Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > <> ___ http://

Re: Dog's breed can be determined from DNA with 99% accuracy . . .

2004-05-22 Thread Gary Denton
On Fri, 21 May 2004 17:19:32 -0700, David Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > NPR's coverage of this story highlighted the fact that some very > different-looking dogs are actually fairly closely related, and among > the

Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-22 Thread Gary Denton
On Sat, 22 May 2004 15:00:25 -0400, JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 01:37 PM 5/22/2004 -0500 Gary Denton wrote: > >Second, It is a right to have all religions treated equally and not > >make some classified as "not a religion." > > That presumes

Re: Pentagon admits Geneva convention violations approved?

2004-05-22 Thread Gary Denton
On Fri, 14 May 2004 15:59:11 +0200, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gautam Mukunda wrote: > >--- Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>If this is true, then it is an extremely serious > >>manner. It would be > >>admitting deliberate, systematic, authorized > >>violatio

Re: Bushworld

2004-05-22 Thread Gary Denton
On Sat, 22 May 2004 16:06:10 -0500, Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 01:10 PM 5/22/04, Gary Denton wrote: > >I couldn't believe anyone found Safire's recent diatribe coherent. > > > >http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/editoria

Re: Bushworld

2004-05-22 Thread Gary Denton
On Sat, 22 May 2004 17:25:17 -0500, Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 04:38 PM 5/22/04, Gary Denton wrote: > >On Sat, 22 May 2004 16:06:10 -0500, Ronn!Blankenship > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > At 01:10 PM 5/22/04, Gar

Re: Bullying and Battering

2004-05-23 Thread Gary Denton
On Sun, 23 May 2004 09:18:14 -0400, Keith Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > At 03:14 PM 21/05/04 -0700, you wrote: > >While I was in the Bruderhof neighborhood... > > > > > > > > http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathar > > Second, Bru

Re: Bullying and Battering

2004-05-23 Thread Gary Denton
Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 03:36 PM 5/23/04, Gary Denton wrote: > > >Gary "Who has his own religious conflict to concern him" > > > Internal or external? Wanna share? Or just vent? > > > -- Ronn! :) _

General Zinni

2004-05-23 Thread Gary Denton
General Zinni on 60 minutes tonight. "Accusing top Pentagon officials of "dereliction of duty," retired Marine General Anthony Zinni says staying the course in Iraq isn't a reasonable option. "The course is headed over Niagara Falls. I think it's time to change course a little bit or at least hold

Re: Who's running the store in Iraq?

2004-05-24 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 24 May 2004 15:22:06 -0700 (PDT), Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > The link to the Washington Post article is > > > > http://makeashorterlink.com/?V23541368 > > Do we have a sign-in, like for the NYT? I tried the > one I'd

Re: Bullying and Battering

2004-05-24 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 24 May 2004 16:26:25 -0700, Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Deborah Harrell wrote: > Yeah, but that Jesus is full of surprises: > > "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife > and children, his brothers and sisters -- yes, even his own life -- he

Re: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-24 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 24 May 2004 18:53:23 -0500, Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OTOH, by the time it is possible to know that an egg has been fertilized > and implanted (and thus an abortion is needed in order to insure that it > does not develop further) it is no longer just a single cell .

Re: Bullying and Battering

2004-05-24 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 24 May 2004 20:16:48 -0400, Damon Agretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is a > > reason for the Dark Ages. > > What was that, and what evidence do you have to support this? > > Damon. While the term "Dark Ages" is deplored by historians for many reasons, one original motivation f

Re: The Goal was Victory

2004-05-24 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 24 May 2004 17:01:03 -0700 (PDT), Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "Robert J. Chassell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > For the United States, the goal in its war against > > terrorism was > > victory. That is to say, the goal was to enable > > Americans again to feel

Re: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion

2004-05-24 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 24 May 2004 21:16:26 -0500, Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "iaamoac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 8:31 AM > Subject: Bishop Sheridan Re: Unitarians not a religion > > >

Re: How Much Is True?

2004-05-24 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 24 May 2004 23:48:27 -0400, JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 09:24 PM 5/24/2004 -0500 Robert Seeberger wrote: > >--===0066176978== > > > >http://www.tilenut.com/yo/BUSH_record.html > > Only the first one. > > JDG - Dumb and Dumberer, Thank God that this is the best our o

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