Re: Physics Quiz

2004-01-14 Thread David Hobby
"Ronn!Blankenship" wrote: ... > > > >And the grading is off--I answered "false" to this one, and got > >it wrong, because the correct answer is "false": > > > > > 7) To produce heat, the Sun burns hydrogen in a combustion reaction. > > > Your Answer: false > > > View

Re: Hoon Leases and Colonies (Was Notes on Uplift)

2004-01-16 Thread David Hobby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... > > It's too good of a pun to ignore. If our good Dr. Brin didn't plan it from > the start, > then it beats the record of no one at first recognizing that RU-486 was a bad > pun. > > (Are you for 86ing the fetus?) ... Maybe. I was always more impressed with

Re: My .sig (vs fair use)

2004-01-18 Thread David Hobby
Nick Arnett wrote: > > Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > > > Unless anyone here is thinking of doing anything like that, don't worry > > about it. I added it to my default .sig so it appears on all my > > messages, but will get it straightened out soon. Everyone over there is > > still (understandably)

Re: Moving: Irregulars & book questions

2004-01-26 Thread David Hobby
Deborah Harrell wrote: > > I'm moving into the foothills this week - a situation > presented that involves taking care of 5 Arabians and > their barn, with a caretaker apt (that is at least as > big as the place I'm in now) attached. > Manna from heaven. Truly. Wow. Good for you. > -

Re: Part of Parrot Act Ruled Unconstitutional

2004-01-27 Thread David Hobby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > For the first time, a federal judge has declared unconstitutional a parrot > with an almost unparalleled power to > communicate with people. ... Excellent mixing of two posts. Amazing job! A local radio station has a contest where they do this to two

Re: Part of Parrot Act Ruled Unconstitutional

2004-01-28 Thread David Hobby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 1/27/2004 8:32:47 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Excellent mixing of two posts. Amazing job! > > A local radio station has a contest where they do this to > > two songs, and ask callers to name the two that were m

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-29 Thread David Hobby
Gautam Mukunda wrote: ... > Paul Wolfowitz's academic credentials are better than > those of anyone on this list. As are Condi Rice's. You refer to something like: "For the last seven years, Dr. Wolfowitz has served as Dean and Professor of International Relations at the Paul H. Nitze School o

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-29 Thread David Hobby
Damon Agretto wrote: ... > Korea. When the US government has to start tapping > guard assets in order to relieve regular army units, > then I think we have a manpower problem. I've stated > before that we DO need more troops, and I opposed the > deep cuts the Clinton administration forced on the >

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-29 Thread David Hobby
The Fool wrote: ... > > I think the best empirical evidence that falsifies your above > conclusions > > is to simply compare the number of public policy think tanks on the > right > > vs. those of the left. > > All funded by Billionaire Right-Wing Sugar Daddies, Like Moon, Sciafe, > Ahmanson, Coor

Re: Left Vs Right Handedness

2004-01-30 Thread David Hobby
> Results indicate that women cradle on the side of the body that is > contralateral to the hemisphere dominant for face and emotion processing > and suggest a possible explanation of gender differences in the incidence > of cradling. I cradle a baby on the left side so that my right hand

My field is more academic, nyah, nyah, was: Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread David Hobby
Gautam Mukunda wrote: > > --- David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You are probably right, if International Relations > > qualifies as an academic field. Technically it > > does, since > > it is studied at colleges. But it seems too > &g

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-30 Thread David Hobby
"Ronn!Blankenship" wrote: > > At 09:50 PM 1/29/04, David Hobby wrote: > > >In my experience, real scholars avoid administrative work like > >the plague! > > True! > > >(I should know, it's my turn to be Chair...) > > Is it only coi

Re: Reviews for Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ"

2004-02-03 Thread David Hobby
Damon Agretto wrote: ... > There were 'chistians' Well before > > the period of time > > that myth has coalesced around as when this > > So-Called yeshua lived. > > How can christians exist before Christ? Can you > explain this, especially when the majority of all Jews > living during that time r

Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives

2004-02-04 Thread David Hobby
"John D. Giorgis" wrote: ... > >> No Child Left Behind ... > >Faith-Based Initiatives ... > >> AIDS Fund > >Oh yeah we heard about that last year. Where is the money? > > > >> Partial-Birth Abortion Ban ... > >> Promotion of Abstinence-Based Education ... > Bob: > > I was not providing a list of p

Re: Reviews for Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ"

2004-02-05 Thread David Hobby
Damon Agretto wrote: > > > He probably means that the Essenes, who existed > > before > > Jesus was born, were essentially Christians in their > > beliefs and > > rituals. ... > > That's an interesting point, but I would reject them > as "christians" since I AM working from a narrow > def

Re: Good and evil (was Re: Reviews for Mel Gibson's "ThePassion of the Christ")

2004-02-05 Thread David Hobby
"John D. Giorgis" wrote: > > At 07:51 AM 2/4/2004 -0800 Nick Arnett wrote: > >Proof? I think it is self-evident that treating important issues as > >black and white is bad. > > Did you truly mean to say that? > > The above is hardly self-evident to me.Indeed, I think that almost by > defini

Re: Good and evil (was Re: Reviews for Mel Gibson's "ThePassion ofthe Christ")

2004-02-06 Thread David Hobby
> --- David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If everyone saw them the same way, they would not > > be "issues" > > since there would be little contention. Please > > accept that good > > people can disagree with you on your black-

Re: Well, that thread wandered from where I thought it would (RE: BRin-L -arewe average?...)

2004-02-18 Thread David Hobby
... > Well, I'm not lopping anything off, if that's what you're asking.. ^_^ > > *deep breath* > > Seriously though.. I'm genetically male (XY, as far as I know) but > have struggled with gender identity my entire life. I can ramble on > and on about the path of internal tides that have push/pul

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-24 Thread David Hobby
"John D. Giorgis" wrote: > > For whatever it is worth, I would just like to point out that one of the > oldest tools of tyrants on the books is to rely upon technicalities to > frustrate and thwart their democratic opposition. Tyrants are often not that subtle. I would hazard that using technic

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-25 Thread David Hobby
Alberto Monteiro wrote: > > David Hobby wrote: > > > > Tyrants are often not that subtle. I would hazard that using > > technicalities is one of the oldest tools of politicians, instead. > > > They are. One of the justifications for the brazilian coup > d'

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-25 Thread David Hobby
Gautam Mukunda wrote: > > --- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > accident - I think it was Jon, though> > > > Who believes that the Constitution is MEANT to be > > interpreted. It was mine, originally. > Well, I mean look, it's not intuitively obvious that > the Equal Protection Clause

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-25 Thread David Hobby
"John D. Giorgis" wrote: > > At 10:56 PM 2/24/2004 -0500 David Hobby wrote: ... > > > >Are you talking about this part of the 14th Amendment? > > > >"nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, > > without due proce

Re: Tyranny/argument

2004-02-26 Thread David Hobby
iaamoac wrote: ... > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > I never said that, did I? > > > > (What gave me more reason to doubt your intellectual credentials > > > > was how you argued with m

Re: another riddle?

2004-02-27 Thread David Hobby
Kevin Tarr wrote: > > Q: You are sitting behind the wheel in a car keeping a constant speed, on > your left side there is an abyss. On your right side you have a fire > engine and it keeps the same speed as you. In front of you runs a pig, > larger than your car. A helicopter is following you,

Kinship registry? Was: Thoughts on gay marriage?

2004-02-27 Thread David Hobby
Richard Baker wrote: > I seriously find it very hard to imagine being freaked out by the idea > of gay marriage. It's in the same category as "seriously believes in > Creationism". I suppose that's more evidence that those of us on this > side of the Atlantic are godless degenerates. Hey, I belie

Re: Tyranny

2004-02-28 Thread David Hobby
Erik Reuter wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 04:52:06PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > > At 04:12 PM 2/28/04, Horn, John wrote: > > >> From: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >> and now New Paltz > > > > > >Huh? > > > > That made two of us . . . > > It is a city in New York

Re: List Criticims Re: Tyranny

2004-02-29 Thread David Hobby
"John D. Giorgis" wrote: ... > >>"I suspect that when technicalities help your side, you do in fact > >>cheer." > > > >He's saying he _suspects_ you _may_ have a double standard. He is not > >attacking you, however. I've seen enough examples on the list this month of > >people attacking each other

State's rights, was Re: L3 Bitter ...

2004-03-01 Thread David Hobby
Gautam Mukunda wrote: ... > I would actually point out that _none_ of this > necessarily has to be hypocrisy. The concept of > "state's rights" to me is not that _all things_ are > best determined at the state level, but that some > things are. Since the overwhelming trend since the > Second Worl

Bases, was Re: Stirling engine queries

2004-03-03 Thread David Hobby
Alberto Monteiro wrote: > > Robert J. Chassell wrote: > > > > However, a base 12 counting system would have been much better; > > > No, it wouldn't > > Alberto Monteiro Well, a little better. Depending how you count, you can argue that 12 "has more factors" than 10. This must be worth

Re: Pledge of Allegiance

2004-03-03 Thread David Hobby
Dan Minette wrote: (Spoiler space deleted.) ... > In Texas, school children are required to either say the pledge of > allegence to Texas or to stand respectfully while others do. Ted says the > US pledge of allegence, because he feels comfortable doing so. He's not > against Texas, but he and

Re: Bases, was Re: Stirling engine queries

2004-03-04 Thread David Hobby
> > Well, a little better. Depending how you count, you can > > argue that 12 "has more factors" than 10. This must be worth > > something, since I don't hear anyone pushing for prime bases such > > as 11. Agreed, it's not a big deal. It might be more to make a > > number base feel "co

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-05 Thread David Hobby
Robert Seeberger wrote: > > http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=528&u=/ap/20040304/ap_on_hi_te/internet_sales_tax_7&printer=1 > > Remember all those gifts you bought online during the holidays? Now > it's time to pay sales tax on them, at least so say the income tax > forms of 20 states. >

Re: Bases, was Re: Stirling engine queries

2004-03-05 Thread David Hobby
Robert Seeberger wrote: ... > > I'd say that this stuff gets pretty fuzzy. One could argue > > that 5 is more important than 11 and 13. On the other hand, one > > could say that ending tests are better than sum of digits tests, > > and conclude that 12 is superior since it replaces sum of digits

Re: Bases, was Re: Stirling engine queries

2004-03-05 Thread David Hobby
Julia Thompson wrote: > > David Hobby wrote: ... > > So base 12 is not bad, it gives nice tests for 2,4,8,... > > for 3,9,..., for 11 since 12 = 11 + 1 and it gives a poor test for > > 13 since 12^2 = 11*13 + 1. The situation for 5 and for 7 se

Re: Bases, was Re: Stirling engine queries

2004-03-05 Thread David Hobby
Alberto Monteiro wrote: > > David Hobby wrote: > > > >>> However, a base 12 counting system would have been much better; > >> > >> No, it wouldn't > > > > Well, a little better. > > > A little worse. > > > Dependi

Re: Bases, was Re: Stirling engine queries

2004-03-06 Thread David Hobby
> I understand, but what I was saying is that it doesn't really make all > that much a difference. There are just too many cases where you would > still be using fractions and decimals, so a different base doesn't > simplify things in the long run. > Base 12 might be helpful when doing math in you

Re: Bases

2004-03-07 Thread David Hobby
Alberto Monteiro wrote: > > David Hobby wrote: > > > >> The problem with base 12 is that it has _2_ twice and _3_ once > >> when you factor it, so that the "practical man" rules to check > >> if a number is divisible by another would get a higher

Re: Libertarian Purity Test

2004-03-19 Thread David Hobby
Kevin Tarr wrote: ... > >(Actually, I agree with whoever said that the wording > >was far too strong to answer a flat 'yes' to many > >questions, but a graded response would have placed me > >on a somewhat more libertarian side. But only > >somewhat!) > > > >Debbi > > Every question seemed easy t

IQ, was Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-21 Thread David Hobby
Richard Baker wrote: > > Rob said: > > >> JD, with an IQ of 137 > >> > > > > Mine is 158. > > 105, last time I took a test. > > Rich, who doesn't think they measure anything interesting anyway. Yeah, right... : ) You probably transposed a couple digits. I never took an IQ test, but did take

Re: IQ, was Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-21 Thread David Hobby
Julia Thompson wrote: > > David Hobby wrote: > > > I never took an IQ test, but did take the SATs (750, 800). Mensa > > is prepared to consider scores on a bunch of tests, which could > > give one rough equivalences if they cared. (That was as of a > > couple

Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread David Hobby
I think we should all get together and help The Fool come up with a better name for Republicans than "ReptiliKlans". And while we're at it, we should do it for other political parties too. The "Klan" part of the name is good, because it ties in with a perceived aversion to civil rights on the par

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread David Hobby
Robert Seeberger wrote: ... > > Aren't those the things pictured on the cover of the past week's > issue of > > _Weekly World News_? > > > > http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/wwn/newsstand.cfm It says "404". So the two 4s are the horns of a demon? Where's the cat?

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread David Hobby
The Fool wrote: ... > > (I'm talking perception here. I do not want to start a spinoff > > argument.) But the "Reptili" part is weak, since its only > > function is to give the name bad connotations, without having anything Well, I did say "perception". I don't think your biology is too accurat

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread David Hobby
Tom Beck wrote: > > > I think we should all get together and help The Fool come up > > with a better name for Republicans than "ReptiliKlans". And > > while we're at it, we should do it for other political parties > > too. > > How 'bout "Rat pubic hairs"? That gets an 8 (out of 10) for

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread David Hobby
Tom Beck wrote: > > >>> I think we should all get together and help The Fool come up > >>> with a better name for Republicans than "ReptiliKlans". And > >>> while we're at it, we should do it for other political parties > >>> too. > >> > >> How 'bout "Rat pubic hairs"? > > > > That gets an

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread David Hobby
Doug Pensinger wrote: > > Warning of implied x rated content. If you are under 18, or highly > sensitive to obscenities, implied or otherwise, close your eyes before > reading this email. If you are over 18, you may proceed. (To see not one, but two *s?) ... > ReF**kLieKlan, as in we're all f

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread David Hobby
Tom Beck wrote: > > Repulsiveklans I think you just tied "ReptiliKlan". I still don't see how "Repulsive" ties in with just the Republican party. I mean, have you LOOKED at Ted Kennedy recently? : ) ---David

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-22 Thread David Hobby
Doug Pensinger wrote: > ReF**kLieKlan, as in we're all f**ked by this clan of liars. > > Ties in with another thread, too. > > -- > Doug ... > > David wrote: > > > O.K., getting better. I give it 10 (out of 10) for denigration, > > 9 for euphony (unless you want "Lie" to have a schwa in it)

Re: IQtest.com, was Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-23 Thread David Hobby
John Doe wrote: ... > > > > You can do a free IQ test at www.iqtest.com in under 15 > > > minutes. Just as a test, I did it in ONE minute but marking random responses. The results are below: > Subject: > [SPAM] Your IQ Test Results ... > Thank you for taking the IQ Test at

Re: [ADMIN] Pseudonymous postings from the Netherlands

2004-04-04 Thread David Hobby
Dan Minette wrote: > From: "Nick Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Deborah Harrell wrote: > > > > > If your supposition is correct, I agree; people are > > > capable of change, and should be allowed to > > > demonstrate that. > > > > Certainly. Elsewhere. > > > Subscribing under a pseudonym doesn

Century City

2004-04-04 Thread David Hobby
I've been meaning to plug Century City since the premiere a couple of weeks ago. I get it on CBS, Tuesdays at 9:00. Science fiction on television is never excellent, but this is pretty good. The show is basically L.A. Law, translated to the 2030's. The cases are interesting, and u

Re: Century City

2004-04-04 Thread David Hobby
"Ronn!Blankenship" wrote: > > At 10:10 PM 4/4/04, David Hobby wrote: > > I've been meaning to plug Century City since the premiere > >a couple of weeks ago. I get it on CBS, Tuesdays at 9:00. > >Science fiction on television is never excellent, but

Re: Century City

2004-04-04 Thread David Hobby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 4/4/2004 8:27:17 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > >However, if they bring on Diana Muldaur, then get rid of her by dropping > > >her down a space elevator . . . > > > > > >-- Ronn! :) > > > > I just meant the regula

Ditto Jurors, was Re: Century City

2004-04-06 Thread David Hobby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >David wrote- > >Did Brin cover whether or not dittoes could be jurors? On > >the one hand, it seems as if jury duty would not be something > >that actual people would want to do. On the other, there > >could well be legal issues involved. > > > > I don't specifical

Re: [SPAM] Fascist Censorship Spreads: HimmlerCroft targeting Porn: Soft, Hard,Online, Mags, Cable

2004-04-07 Thread David Hobby
The Fool wrote: ... > > Computer forensic specialist Lam Nguyen > > --- > (Sun photo by David Hobby) > No relation. ---David Hobby ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Spam flagging, was [SM] Fascist Censorship Spreads: HimmlerCroft targetingPorn:Soft, Hard, Online, Mags, Cable

2004-04-07 Thread David Hobby
The Fool wrote: > > > From: David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [SPAM] Fascist Censorship Spreads: HimmlerCroft targeting > Porn:Soft, Hard,Online, Mags, Cable ... > > This article was rea

Re: Occupation of Iraq IMHO

2004-04-07 Thread David Hobby
Alberto Monteiro wrote: > > My opinion: I think the USA should pull his troops and those of his > satellites [:-)] immediately from all sunite and shi'a zones, and > restrict the occupation to the Kurd zone. Then, do in Iraqian > Kurdistan what is supposed to happen elsewhere: train soldiers, > br

Re: Occupation of Iraq IMHO

2004-04-11 Thread David Hobby
Alberto Monteiro wrote: > > David Hobby wrote: > > > > I would rather cut it into three pieces, Sunni, Shiite and > > Kurdish. I'd even throw in a high-tech way to enforce their borders. > > > This would annoy Turkey: their worst nightmare is a Kurd

... was, Re: LIBERALS AND CONSERVATIVES

2004-04-11 Thread David Hobby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 4/8/2004 9:47:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > > Unless someone's offering a margarita (on the rocks, with > > salt) made > > with Jose Cuervo Gold. > > how about a nice joint. i suspect that the ability to make fire wa

Re: Century City

2004-04-13 Thread David Hobby
William T Goodall wrote: > > Cancelled. Could be. But they are showing an episode tonight... ---David Any Nielsen households on the list? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: [ADMIN} And we continue to futz with the server

2004-04-13 Thread David Hobby
Nick Arnett wrote: > > We're scrambling quite a bit to get things working properly... Nick-- I'm sure you're just doing all this for the practice. : ) Thanks for all the work you're putting in! ---David ___

Democracy frees the World, was Re: Occupation of Iraq IMHO

2004-04-13 Thread David Hobby
Alberto Monteiro wrote: > > David Hobby wrote: ... > > There should be some nice system of plebescites to let people > > organize into the countries they feel like organizing into, > > rather than being stuck with historical borders. > > > Yeah. What about the mex

Re: Calafia Contest --6th try

2004-04-14 Thread David Hobby
Steve Sloan II wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > (The list is still too serious.) > > > ---this time without hitting the control button with my wrist: > > > In GURPS Uplift, the main continent on Calafia is named Farley. > > > Anybody know why? > > > I have my own idea and want t

Re: Democracy frees the World

2004-04-14 Thread David Hobby
Alberto Monteiro wrote: > > David Hobby wrote: ... > > O.K., we have to back up a bit from that, or there aren't > > any countries in my mythical ODS at all! For instance, the USA is > > rare among western democracies for having separation of church and &

Re: This time I won't blame Bush

2004-04-19 Thread David Hobby
Mike Lee wrote: > > > > What about workers who put profit over their own lives? > > > > > > Huh? > > Your assumption is that employers are adults and employees are stupid > children unable or unwilling to look out for their own best interests. > > There may be cases where hidden hazards cannot b

(Scouted) Jared Diamond on diabetes

2003-06-05 Thread David Hobby
The June 5th issue of _Nature_ has an interesting article by Jared Diamond (_Guns, Germs and Steel_) on diabetes. Here's their blurb: Feature of the week The double puzzle of diabetes Why is the prevalence of type 2 diabetes now exploding in most populations, but not in Europeans? The genetic

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-07 Thread David Hobby
> Michael Harney wrote: > > > > I have been informed today that I have been plonked by one of the > > listmembers. Which listmember is irrelivant. > > > > The listmember informed me that my "intollerance" was reminiscent of Jeroen. Plonking? What on Earth is plonking? No one told me ab

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread David Hobby
> > > >Religion is extremist by nature. > > No, it's not. > > -- Ronn! :) Even religions which say that their god(s) is the "only true god"? As an outsider, that sounds pretty extreme to me! ---David Identify, for 2 points: "I mean, it's one th

Carpe Jugulum, was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread David Hobby
Ray Ludenia wrote: > > David Hobby wrote: > > Identify, for 2 points: > > > > "I mean, it's one thing saying you've got the best god, but > > sayin' it's the ONLY real one is a bit of a cheek, in my > > opinion." > > Hair

Re: Carpe Jugulum, was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-09 Thread David Hobby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 6/9/2003 4:19:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > 2 points, though. And one point to William Taylor--I had totally > > forgotten about _The Ruling Class_! > > What? You mean it was actually in it? Not that

Re: Halal and Kosher slaughter 'must end'

2003-06-10 Thread David Hobby
Richard Baker wrote: > > Andy said: > > > "It's a sudden and quick haemorrhage. A quick loss of blood pressure > > and the brain is instantaneously starved of blood and there is no > > time to start feeling any pain," said spokesman Dr Majid Katme. > > If you were going to be executed, would you

Re: Twenty (or so) Questions, was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-11 Thread David Hobby
> > >Can you explain why a survey published in the September 1999 issue of > >Scientific American found that 90% of Americans believe in a personal > >god and life after death, but only 40% of scientists (people with at > >least a B.S. degree in a scientific field) believe in these phenomena? >

Re: My wager, was Re: Twenty (or so) Questions, was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-11 Thread David Hobby
William T Goodall wrote: > ... > > (Besides, there's always Pascal's wager to consider.) > > My wager is that it is best to not believe in any of this religious > stuff because even if it turns out I was wrong, and Zoop the > Spider-Goddess rules the Universe[1] and sentences me to eternity > scr

Re: Choose ! > RE: My wager, was Re: Twenty (or so) Questions,wasRe : Plonkworthy?

2003-06-11 Thread David Hobby
Chad Cooper wrote: > > >From "Alien IQ" by Clifford Pickover. > "Consider two universes. > Universe Omega is a universe in which God does not exist, but the > inhabitants of the Universe believe God exists, > Universe Upsilon is a universe in which God does exist, but no inhabitants > believes God

Re: Twenty (or so) Questions, was Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-11 Thread David Hobby
Julia Thompson wrote: > > Deborah Harrell wrote: > > > How many here who consider themselves religious, > > spiritual, or otherwise somehow connected to the > > Divine have had that feeling of "universal > > connectedness" or "sacred presence" (drug experiences > > disqualified in my book) ...

Genuine?, was Re: Twenty...

2003-06-12 Thread David Hobby
... > Personally, I tend to give a lot less credibility to spiritual experiences > which reportedly occur under such conditions than those which occur > unasked-for in the middle of an otherwise normal day to a person with no > history or subsequent diagnosis of mental illness when that person is >

Re: Is it a crime to urge another to commit suicide?

2003-06-13 Thread David Hobby
> > Does anyone happen to know if -- and where -- it is against the law to urge > another person to commit suicide? > > Nick > It's probably not a crime in the Netherlands, if that's where you are going with this. : ) ---David __

Headers, was Re: Powers of 10 - Java Applet

2003-06-13 Thread David Hobby
Erik Reuter wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 07:18:27PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In > > > > http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/java/scienceopticsu/powersof10/ > > > > you can find a very nice demonstration of zooming from the galaxy view down > > to the quarks. > > > > Regards > > Arm

Re: Is it a crime to urge another to commit suicide?

2003-06-13 Thread David Hobby
Jan Coffey wrote: ... > Canceling someone can have a serious effect on them, it is a form of > emotional violence. It's a kind of death. On no list I have been on has > anyone ever been successfuly canceled. A very very small number go off, > concider what they did, deeply regret it, wonder back ar

Re: Plonkworthy?

2003-06-07 Thread David Hobby
ention of your list on websites and in periodic FAQ postings. ---David Hobby P.S. No "Wall of Shame", please. - Subject: Plonkworthy? Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 16:07:58 +0200 From:

Re: A friendly request JVB

2003-06-14 Thread David Hobby
Jan Coffey wrote: Fine, an occasional forward is not a problem, at least in my opinion. > --- > I'll leave you alone if you leave me alone. This means that you will > cease complaining to any and all companies I do business with (ISP's, hosting > compan

Re: Colour vision and pheromones

2003-06-21 Thread David Hobby
Deborah Harrell wrote: > > --- Jon Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Behalf Of Deborah Harrell > > > --- Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > > > > Jan Coffey wrote: > > > > >--- The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (Is the flamewar over? Good.) > > > Perish that thought! Although I think t

Neanderthal Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-22 Thread David Hobby
... > > > > How dare you say Neanderthal! > > > > That's Neandertal. > > > > Greg Bear spells it Neandertal. > > > > Robert J. Sawyer spells it Neanderthal. "Tal" is German for valley. It used to be spelled "Thal", and that's preserved in some place names. So either should be fine, but

Re: thermodynamics

2003-06-22 Thread David Hobby
Kevin Tarr wrote: > > Anyone want to try and crack this one? I was a little cold and had glanced > at my house thermostat. It was 18C. I also looked at my indoor/outdoor > therm, it was 70F outside. It was just at dusk. Now three hours later it's > 22C inside and 65F outside. I actually put my han

Re: [SPAM]constatine's 'cross' may have been mushroom cloudfrommeteor impact

2003-06-23 Thread David Hobby
The Fool wrote: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3013146.stm First comment. Note the subject line, Fool. They have the spam-filters turned up pretty high where I work, but ALL of these posts of yours trigger them. : ) > > Space impact 'saved Christianity' > > By Dr David Whit

Re: [SPAM]Re: constatine's 'cross' may have been mushroom cloudfrom meteorimpact

2003-06-23 Thread David Hobby
The Fool wrote: ... > > > Did a meteor over central Italy in AD 312 change the course of Roman > and > > > Christian history? > > ... > > > > > > The history of Christianity and the establishment of the popes in > Rome > > > might have been very different. > > > > Second comment. Aren't you

Re: Fashion (was: Colour vision and pheromones)

2003-06-23 Thread David Hobby
Deborah Harrell wrote: > --- David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > > I think that a lot of cosmetics started out as ways > > to look healthy, and then got sidetracked. Red > >lips, smooth > > pink nails, shiny hair all are signs of health. ... > This &#x

Re: Question Regarding Religion and Atheism

2003-06-24 Thread David Hobby
Doug Pensinger wrote: ... > > > > I am curious. How do you know it wasn't Satan? > > > > Or a phenomenon that is beyond our understanding, but in fact has a > logical explanation? > > Why is something you cannot explain automatically attributable to a deity? Cuz Satan Rulz, dude! Any si

Re: Fertility (was: Colour vision and pheromones)

2003-06-25 Thread David Hobby
> > Not incidently, some women will have a little blood > with ovulation (the egg ruptures through the ovarian > surface, and can cause pain ("mitleschmirtz*") as well > as some bleeding), and if she has an irregular cycle, > she might interpret this as menses. > > Debbi > Because We're Women An

Re: brin: RFID tags

2003-06-28 Thread David Hobby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >With RFID about to arrive in full force, don't be lulled at all. Major > >changes are coming, and not all of them will be positive. The law of > >unintended consequences is about to encounter surveillance devices > >smaller than the period at the end of this sentence.

Re: God, Religion, and Sports

2003-07-03 Thread David Hobby
iaamoac wrote: > The very point I have been trying to make here is that intelligent > discussion of religion is simply not occuring from many of our > resident "atheists." Rather every mention of religion has been > greated by flames - flames which have not been accompanied by even a > modicum of

Religion Discussion, was God, Religion and Sports

2003-07-04 Thread David Hobby
iaamoac wrote: > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you want a serious discussion of religion, we should > > probably all agree to adopt an agnostic viewpoint for the duration. > > But what kind of discussion is it whe

Re: God, Religion, and Sports

2003-07-04 Thread David Hobby
"Ronn!Blankenship" wrote: > > At 12:31 AM 7/4/03 -0400, David Hobby wrote: > > If you want a serious discussion of religion, we should > >probably all agree to adopt an agnostic viewpoint for the duration. > > But is it likely to be any more poss

Re: Solar sailing 'breaks laws of physics'

2003-07-04 Thread David Hobby
Erik Reuter wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 01:47:11PM +0100, William T Goodall wrote: > > > http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns3895 > > If I've understood Gold correctly, it seems to me that he is saying that > a single photon has a temperature that obeys thermodynamic laws,

Re: Irregulars query: air pressure in spinning habitats

2003-07-06 Thread David Hobby
> At 05:26 PM 7/6/03 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote: > >On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 07:22:39PM +, Robert J. Chassell wrote: > > > > > What is the air pressure near the center of a spinning O'Neil type > > > space habitat when the pressure at the rim is 1 atmosphere? > > > > > What is the equation that t

Re: Irregulars query: air pressure in spinning habitats

2003-07-06 Thread David Hobby
Erik Reuter wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 07:36:53PM -0400, David Hobby wrote: > > > The formula above seems to be assuming that pressure at the axis > > is zero, which is unrealistic. > > Actually, having a pressure near 1 atmosphere at the center is >

Re: Irregulars query: air pressure in spinning habitats

2003-07-06 Thread David Hobby
Erik Reuter wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 09:28:52PM -0400, David Hobby wrote: > > > Sure there is something to provide the pressure! The habitat > > won't let air out, and you've pumped it up to the point where there is > > 1 atm at the rim. Or?

Rama: air pressure in spinning habitats

2003-07-06 Thread David Hobby
Erik Reuter wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 09:28:52PM -0400, David Hobby wrote: > > > Appeal to Authority: Rama had air at the axis, and Clarke was usually > > good on physics. > > Rama had a radius of about 8km. They entered near the axis and began > d

Re: No conflicts between selfishness and morality?

2003-07-06 Thread David Hobby
Dan Minette wrote: ... > Right, and raping and pillaging is an example of exploitive behavior. They > are both part of human nature. Saving lives is good, raping and pillaging > is bad. > > Now, I can't prove that; its a matter of faith for me. > > > What do lies and myths have to do with it? >

Re: No conflicts between selfishness and morality?

2003-07-06 Thread David Hobby
Erik Reuter wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 12:12:18AM -0400, David Hobby wrote: > > > Good point. Such beliefs are not usually based in fact, but are > > strongly held. So in a sense, they are based on faith. But somehow > > it feels like a completely d

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