astern, Europe).
Ah, quite different from what I read. I'm glad we can agree upon the source
of the misunderstanding.
I think we may still have some reasonable differences on the Cold War which
would be worth exploring, but it will probably be spread out as I have
limited time at the mome
> You wrote in response to Charlie mentioning
> an existential threat to Western Europe by the USSR:
>
>
> Well, yeah, but that was pretty much decided during the Berlin airlift when
> Uncle Joe made the decision that the USSR didn't want to fight.
> All that followed after that showdown was jus
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From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On
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Subject: Re: the Cold War
> So, if the US didn't fight the cold war, let it&#x
>The biggest fallacy regarding it was the Soviet threat which was always
>exaggerated. Neither militarily nor politically did the soviet Union (or
>China and other 'communist allied') ever pose an existential threat to
>the U.S.
So, if the US didn't fight the
> I don't think there was too many anti-USA feeling in Russia and
> China during the 1950s and 1960s.
Your good Marxist would never be anti-U.S, just anti-capitalist
exploiter. Ideology not nationalism.
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On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:41 AM, Pat Mathews wrote:
Of course, Russia and China didn't like each other any better than
we liked either one of them, or they, us. Still, Kipling's Great
Game went on along all three borders for quite some time.
Which took the US a long time to figure out, incident
rs?
http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/
> From: albm...@centroin.com.br
> To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
> Subject: RE: the Cold War
> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:34:35 -0200
>
> Pat Mathews wrote:
> >
> > Of course, Russia and China didn't like each other any better
Pat Mathews wrote:
>
> Of course, Russia and China didn't like each other any better
> than we liked either one of them, or they, us. Still,
> Kipling's Great Game went on along all three borders for
> quite some time.
>
Are you sure about that everybody-hated-America meme?
I don't think there w
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 01:05:12 +1300
> From: e...@ritchie.net.nz
> Subject: Re: the Cold War
> To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
>
>
> >> The biggest fallacy regarding it was the Soviet threat which was always
> >> exaggerated. Neither militarily nor politically did the soviet Unio
most of Europe... and that's what the Cold War really was.
> It was Europe-backed-by-America *not* being invaded by a LOT of tanks.
Well, yeah, but that was pretty much decided during the Berlin airlift
when Uncle Joe made the decision that the USSR didn't want to fight.
All th
On 11/11/2010, at 6:58 PM, Euan Ritchie wrote:
>
>>> ...and judging by GDP figures, the USA is still fighting the Cold War.
>
>> There never was a "Cold" War
>
> Yeah there was, but it didn't begin with Korea. It began about 1943 when
> Germany&#x
>> ...and judging by GDP figures, the USA is still fighting the Cold War.
> There never was a "Cold" War
Yeah there was, but it didn't begin with Korea. It began about 1943 when
Germany's defeat was clear and it's conquerors began to consider what
would be t
On Nov 8, 2010, at 4:55 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Jon Louis Mann wrote:
...and judging by GDP figures, the USA is still fighting the Cold
War.
There never was a "Cold" War beginning with the Korean War WW III
was a global conflict against Communism in Latin America, The
Jon Louis Mann wrote:
>
>>...and judging by GDP figures, the USA is still fighting the Cold War.
>
> There never was a "Cold" War beginning with the Korean War WW III
> was a global conflict against Communism in Latin America, The
> Carribbean, Africa, Southeast
>...and judging by GDP figures, the USA is still fighting the Cold War.
There never was a "Cold" War beginning with the Korean War WW III was a global
conflict against Communism in Latin America, The Carribbean, Africa, Southeast
Asia, Eastern Europe, etc.
In fact the US has be
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