frank, I don't think anyone can be of much help on this
matter with regard to Facebook. I think Facebook has made it perfectly
clear that it is not in the business of enabling discussion. It's in the
business of selling ads... Unfortunately, trolls use ads too. I suspect
trolls ac
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 5:39 PM, David Hobby wrote:
> Well, that was certainly "helpful".
>
> ---David
>
> I'm no help either, though.
We both helped increase list traffic, which has been quite low...
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On 9/7/2010 3:19 PM, John Williams wrote:
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
Some time ago I unsubscribed from this list because of the comments of one
person who has since matured. Now I am having a similar problem with someone
on Dr. Brin's FB page.
If there is nothin
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
> Some time ago I unsubscribed from this list because of the comments of one
> person who has since matured. Now I am having a similar problem with someone
> on Dr. Brin's FB page.
If there is nothing wrong with me, maybe there's something
y not be able to answer, David, about how to block
Facebook trolls if I can't access their page to do so.
As I participate more and more on Facebook, I discovered out that it is
possible to selectively delete, or block, specific persons from reading your
comments, so you don't k
Jon Louis Mann wrote:
... My sense is that this is a philosophical thing to him--he's in
the "Deletionist" camp on Wikipedia, who want to limit the number
of articles on "non-notable topics". (He also questions articles
on minor academic journals, people I've never heard of, and so on.)
...
T
Brin-L and Wiki and Trolls:
Brin-L and Wiki and Trolls--oh my
Brin-L and Wiki and Trolls--oh my
"By the way the brain it dumbs, something Wiki this way comes."
Vilyehm
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> Jon Louis Mann wrote:
> > I don't understand turning the Alliance for Progress
> Encyclopedia into a wiki format or what's a Brin Wiki
> > but I am all for doing anything to block trolls from
> removing any of Dr. Brin's contributions to the SF lexicon
>
Jon Louis Mann wrote:
I don't understand turning the Alliance for Progress Encyclopedia
into a wiki format or what's a Brin Wiki, but I am all for doing
anything to block trolls from remove any of Dr. Brin's contributions
to the SF lexicon.
Jon--
Hi. I guess the convers
I don't understand turning the Alliance for Progress Encyclopedia into
a wiki format or what's a Brin Wiki, but I am all for doing anything to block
trolls from remove any of Dr. Brin's contributions to the SF lexicon.
I wonder why is someone running a seek-and-destroy against B
...
It seems like they are running a seek-and-destroy against every Brin
stuff in wikipedia. After Alvin, the trolls will delete Streaker.
The Troll is targeting for deletion: Gubru, G'Kek, EarthClan,
Tymbrimi, Streaker (David Brin), Jophur, and Alvin Hph-wayuo.
...
If we want the art
-Original Message-
From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On
Behalf Of David Hobby
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:42 PM
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion
Subject: Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again (III) :-/
...
>> It seems lik
created to give anonimity to a coward behavior (if it
> used the _real_ account, we might retaliate by proposing for
> deletion _its_ articles!).
>
> In the Portuguese wikipedia those trolls are severely
> repressed; one editor who abused sock-puppeteering was
> banned until a
Matt Grimaldi wrote:
>
It must be a Brin-hater.
>>>
>>> Any clue to the identity of the troll?
>>>
>> Who cares? Unless you are the owner of a Death Note, there's nothing
>> we could do.
>
> Don't you also need a picture of his face for that?
>
Yes - but it's easier to get the picture fro
Don't you also need a picture of his face for that?
-- Matt
- Original Message
From: Alberto Monteiro
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion
Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 8:08:00 AM
Subject: RE: The wikipedia trolls may win again (III) :-/
Julia wrote:
>
>>
_real_ account, we might retaliate by proposing for
deletion _its_ articles!).
In the Portuguese wikipedia those trolls are severely
repressed; one editor who abused sock-puppeteering was
banned until after 2012-12-21.
> If we want the articles to stay up on Wikipedia, the
> best defense is r
...
It seems like they are running a seek-and-destroy against every Brin
stuff in wikipedia. After Alvin, the trolls will delete Streaker.
The Troll is targeting for deletion: Gubru, G'Kek, EarthClan, Tymbrimi,
Streaker (David Brin), Jophur, and Alvin Hph-wayuo.
It must be a Brin-hater.
Julia wrote:
>
>> The Troll is targeting for deletion: Gubru, G'Kek, EarthClan,
>> Tymbrimi, Streaker (David Brin), Jophur, and Alvin Hph-wayuo.
>
>> It must be a Brin-hater.
>
> Any clue to the identity of the troll?
>
Who cares? Unless you are the owner of a Death Note, there's nothing
we co
-Original Message-
From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On
Behalf Of Alberto Monteiro
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:35 AM
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion
Subject: The wikipedia trolls may win again (III) :-/
> It seems like they
> It seems like they are running a seek-and-destroy against every Brin
> stuff in wikipedia. After Alvin, the trolls will delete Streaker.
>
The Troll is targeting for deletion: Gubru, G'Kek, EarthClan, Tymbrimi,
Streaker (David Brin), Jophur, and Alvin Hph-wayuo.
It must be a Br
It seems like they are running a seek-and-destroy against every Brin
stuff in wikipedia. After Alvin, the trolls will delete Streaker.
I will save the articles in txt files; when the Brin wiki is set up
I will recreate them. It's a pity that the history will be
lost - I created thos
rivia. Each of the 100+ poker games can have its own page
with rules, history, and strategy. Jimbo Wales has agreed:
Hard disks are cheap."
So, it's just trolls that want to remove fictional character pages;
after all, Dei Lucrii, Time Regained (film), Jia Xiaozhong,
Montesquieu-G
Charlie Bell wrote:
On 29/12/2009, at 3:44 AM, David Hobby wrote:
Alberto--
Wow, I guess it is my place to battle. I've been going back and
forth with the "troll", at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alvin_Hph-wayuo
Some of this is because I don't really understand his criteria, or
what
On 12/28/2009 5:18, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Yes, it's a stub, and fortunately so. Another stupid decision
made in the English wikipedia was that spoilers are _not_
marked as such. Just take a look a the article about
English Wikipedia does provide standard spoiler warning templates, but
unlike
On 29/12/2009, at 3:44 AM, David Hobby wrote:
>
>
> Alberto--
>
> Wow, I guess it is my place to battle. I've been going
> back and forth with the "troll", at:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alvin_Hph-wayuo
>
> Some of this is because I don't really understand his
> criteria, or what the
>>> of popular science fiction novels.
>>>
>> No, not my language, not my place to battle. I've tried
>> to keep the Portuguese language trolls away from deleting
>> relevant material - I can say I have been half-successful.
>
> Alberto--
&
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
And... anybody have a logo?
Nick
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On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:58 AM, wrote:
> I did not send the original to the list. Feel free to forward this to the
> list.
>
> I'm partial to MediaWiki.
I have installed MediaWiki here:
http://www.nickarnett.net/sfwiki/
We can create a domain name for it and point it there when we're ready
ra Ferreira Monteiro
> To: Brin-L
> ReplyTo: Brin-L
> Subject: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/
> Sent: Dec 27, 2009 4:56 PM
>
> Article Alvin Hph-wayuo was proposed for elimination. From what
> I know about such things, it will be eliminated :-(
>
> http://en.w
ed
to keep the Portuguese language trolls away from deleting
relevant material - I can say I have been half-successful.
Alberto--
Wow, I guess it is my place to battle. I've been going
back and forth with the "troll", at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alvin_Hph-wayuo
Some
battle. I've tried
to keep the Portuguese language trolls away from deleting
relevant material - I can say I have been half-successful.
> The pages for the books should also link to Alvin's
> page. But wait, the entry at
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity%27s_Shore
> is
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
> I could host it along with the list. I even set up a wiki there,
> which I'm not using.
Sent that from my phone while waiting to see Sherlock Holmes (quite good,
but I had trouble understanding some of the dialog for some reason).
If I set
Trent Shipley wrote:
...
A quick Google doesn't turn up any strong scifi literary wikis. Given
the structure of a well designed wiki, David Brin's Uplift Universe
should be a viable category effectively acting as a sub-wiki. In short,
you can have both.
...
From: Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monte
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inal Message--
> From: Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
> To: Brin-L
> ReplyTo: Brin-L
> Subject: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/
> Sent: Dec 27, 2009 4:56 PM
>
> Article Alvin Hph-wayuo was proposed for elimination. From what
> I know about such things, it will b
Let's be more ambitious.
A science fiction and fantasy literary wiki! (And just when I needed a new
project too.)
--Original Message--
From: Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
To: Brin-L
ReplyTo: Brin-L
Subject: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/
Sent: Dec 27, 2009 4:56 PM
Ar
Article Alvin Hph-wayuo was proposed for elimination. From what
I know about such things, it will be eliminated :-(
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Hph-wayuo
Maybe it's time to setup a Brin wiki
Alberto Monteiro
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On Oct 8, 2005, at 10:43 AM, Dave Land wrote:
On Oct 7, 2005, at 11:57 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
That said I thoroughly approve of outing. Anyone who behaves in a
bigoted way deserves to be exposed to the very ridicule and scorn he
heaps upon others. An ex of mine never agreed with me on tha
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Oct 5, 2005, at 5:20 AM, Leonard Matusik wrote:
I'm fully in Warrens camp (from last Gay Penguins post) about this.
Hmm, it's a small step from camping to … well, never mind. ;)
The last 2 times I went camping it was with people who are interested in
the sorts of
On Oct 7, 2005, at 11:57 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
That said I thoroughly approve of outing. Anyone who behaves in a
bigoted way deserves to be exposed to the very ridicule and scorn
he heaps upon others. An ex of mine never agreed with me on that,
even though he was pretty active in the c
On Oct 5, 2005, at 5:20 AM, Leonard Matusik wrote:
I'm fully in Warrens camp (from last Gay Penguins post) about this.
Hmm, it's a small step from camping to … well, never mind. ;)
GayCommunity, GayMarriage and GayPride are all consumate BullSh*t.
They're — to my mind — politically necessa
Check what these Trolls do for fun.
-
Gay Community Divided Over 'Outing' of Public Figures
Concerns About Privacy, 'Hypocrisy' at Center of Debate
By DAVID CRARY, AP
NEW YORK (Oct. 4) - Though
On 5/19/05, Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 05:52 PM Wednesday 5/18/2005, Nick Arnett wrote:
> >On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:45:15 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote
> > > * Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've been asked to ask you to tone it down on personal attacks
> > >
On 5/18/05, Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> > I've been asked to ask you to tone it down on personal attacks
> > on-list.
> >
> > If you make many more personal attacks on-list, the probability of
> > your being placed on moderation will be
At 10:23 AM Thursday 5/19/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you are waiting for me to chime in...
my momma taught me not to go near
wild things that are frothing at the mouth
Yo momma warn't no dummy!
-- Ronn! :)
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At 03:26 AM Thursday 5/19/2005, Kevin Street wrote:
Is this some kind of subtle parody? It seems wildly out of place for Brin-L.
Because of its subtlety, of course. Not because it is parody.
-- Ronn! :)
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> Incidentally, this thread is still missing a few
> countries from the Axis of Eggheads.
If you are waiting for me to chime in...
my momma taught me not to go near
wild things that are frothing at the mouth
Dee
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On May 19, 2005, at 1:26 AM, Kevin Street wrote:
Is this some kind of subtle parody?
It might very well be.
--
Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books
http://books.nightwares.com/
Current work in progress "The Seven-Year Mirror"
http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf
> It seems we have more nattering ninnies! But a new breed, cowardly
> whiners who only can whine when their victim can't read them! We have
> known for a while that Brin-L is full of passive-agressives who whine
> constantly while running sneaky attacks on people behind their backs. In
> case anyo
William T Goodall wrote:
On 19 May 2005, at 1:32 am, Dave Land wrote:
On May 18, 2005, at 5:15 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 05:52 PM Wednesday 5/18/2005, Nick Arnett wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:45:15 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote
> * Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> > I've been asked t
At 07:32 PM Wednesday 5/18/2005, Dave Land wrote:
On May 18, 2005, at 5:15 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 05:52 PM Wednesday 5/18/2005, Nick Arnett wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:45:15 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote
> * Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> > I've been asked to ask you to tone it
On 19 May 2005, at 1:32 am, Dave Land wrote:
On May 18, 2005, at 5:15 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 05:52 PM Wednesday 5/18/2005, Nick Arnett wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:45:15 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote
> * Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> > I've been asked to ask you to tone it down
On May 18, 2005, at 5:15 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 05:52 PM Wednesday 5/18/2005, Nick Arnett wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:45:15 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote
> * Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> > I've been asked to ask you to tone it down on personal attacks
> > on-list.
> >
> > If y
At 05:52 PM Wednesday 5/18/2005, Nick Arnett wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:45:15 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote
> * Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> > I've been asked to ask you to tone it down on personal attacks
> > on-list.
> >
> > If you make many more personal attacks on-list, the proba
On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:45:15 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote
> * Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> > I've been asked to ask you to tone it down on personal attacks
> > on-list.
> >
> > If you make many more personal attacks on-list, the probability of
> > your being placed on moderation will
* Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I've been asked to ask you to tone it down on personal attacks
> on-list.
>
> If you make many more personal attacks on-list, the probability of
> your being placed on moderation will be non-zero.
It seems we have more nattering ninnies! But a new bre
O.K., it doesn't prove anything.
I don't think this kind of thing is amenable to proof at all,
one way or the other. The post is below, for what it's worth.
---David
Who has quit conversing with trolls, sock-puppets
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