Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Freezing on Energy Saver

Update: The feature is now enabled for 1% of Chrome 133 stable users (for these users, it only has an effect if Energy Saver is active and there are eligible CPU-intensive background tabs). This blog post provides details for Web deve

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Freezing on Energy Saver

LGTM3, thank you for the detailed explanation. On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 8:46 AM Francois Pierre Doray wrote: > > > On Wednesday, December 11, 2024 at 3:11:04 PM UTC-5 Felipe Gomes wrote: > > Are there plans to exempt websites running/installed as a PWA from this? > > There are no plans to opt-out

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Freezing on Energy Saver

On Wednesday, December 11, 2024 at 3:11:04 PM UTC-5 Felipe Gomes wrote: Are there plans to exempt websites running/installed as a PWA from this? There are no plans to opt-out PWA from this. If a PWA needs to use a lot of CPU in the background when Energy Saver is active, it can use the same m

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Freezing on Energy Saver

Are there plans to exempt websites running/installed as a PWA from this? On Wednesday, December 11, 2024 at 3:20:49 PM UTC-3 François Doray wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Thanks for the feedback. Here are my responses: > > 1. An origin trial will allow Web developers to opt out of freezing. In > addi

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Freezing on Energy Saver

Hi everyone, Thanks for the feedback. Here are my responses: 1. An origin trial will allow Web developers to opt out of freezing. In addition to provide a quick way to prevent breakages, it will help us identify background use cases that might need dedicated APIs for support. 2. A blog post do

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Freezing on Energy Saver

Presumably we would want to treat Web Transport the same way as Web Sockets here, whatever we decide? On Sunday, December 8, 2024 at 12:20:50 PM UTC-8 philipp...@googlemail.com wrote: > what about WebSockets? Wondering about video conferencing websites that > use Websockets as signaling transp

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Freezing on Energy Saver

what about WebSockets? Wondering about video conferencing websites that use Websockets as signaling transport to establish a WebRTC connection but do not open camera/microphone or the underlying connection until that is necessary. (I do not expect such applications to use a lot of CPU in that state

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Freezing on Energy Saver

Before "notifications" have been used as a signal of a page that wants to run in the background. I didn't see it listed here. The other use case that has been mentioned in similar threads is stock market applications which seem to both want to run in the background and do non-trivial work of so

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Freezing on Energy Saver

You've mentioned things like mail/calendar should still work. Is this because the expected background CPU usage is low or is it that it's using some API that directly opts it out of the freezing behavior? I'm particularly worried about things like calendar that don't _typically_ need to do any work

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Freezing on Energy Saver

LGTM1 to ship including a deprecation trial On Fri, Nov 29, 2024, 5:00 p.m. François Doray wrote: > > > On Friday, November 29, 2024 at 3:13:39 PM UTC-5 Rick Byers wrote: > > tl;dr: Just one remaining question about providing a developer opt-out > (like a deprecation trial). > > On Fri, Nov 29,

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Freezing on Energy Saver

On Friday, November 29, 2024 at 3:13:39 PM UTC-5 Rick Byers wrote: tl;dr: Just one remaining question about providing a developer opt-out (like a deprecation trial). On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 12:25 PM Francois Pierre Doray wrote: Hi Rick, Thanks for raising your concerns regarding troublesho

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Freezing on Energy Saver

tl;dr: Just one remaining question about providing a developer opt-out (like a deprecation trial). On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 12:25 PM Francois Pierre Doray wrote: > Hi Rick, > > Thanks for raising your concerns regarding troubleshooting issues caused > by Tab Freezing on Energy Saver. > > > Does C

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Freezing on Energy Saver

Hi Rick, Thanks for raising your concerns regarding troubleshooting issues caused by Tab Freezing on Energy Saver. > Does Chrome have any visual indication that a tab has been frozen? There is no indication that a tab is frozen. However, the feature only operates when Energy Saver is active, si

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Freezing on Energy Saver

I evaluated this intent relative to our compat principles and overall think you've done an excellent job mitigating the compat risks. In particular the user controls, developer-influencable heuristics and enterprise opt-out seem likely to be significant mitigations. I'