Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: Language Detector API

2025-04-30 Thread 'Domenic Denicola' via blink-dev
On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 8:08 AM Chris Harrelson wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2025, 3:56 PM Deepti Bogadi wrote: > >> Hi Chris, >> >> Yes, the intent is to ship section 4 from the linked specification. >> >> Regarding Mozilla, we have no signal from them. >> > > Have you reached out to discuss? I'

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Language Detector API

2025-04-30 Thread 'Domenic Denicola' via blink-dev
On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 12:17 AM Jeffrey Yasskin wrote: > The discussion in the API owners meeting raised the question of whether > language detection has fewer fingerprinting risks than the other APIs > covered by > https://webmachinelearning.github.io/writing-assistance-apis/#privacy. > Could yo

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: Language Detector API

2025-04-30 Thread Chris Harrelson
On Wed, Apr 30, 2025, 3:56 PM Deepti Bogadi wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Yes, the intent is to ship section 4 from the linked specification. > > Regarding Mozilla, we have no signal from them. > Have you reached out to discuss? I'm concerned there might be multiple incompatible translation apis under

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: Language Detector API

2025-04-30 Thread Deepti Bogadi
Hi Chris, Yes, the intent is to ship section 4 from the linked specification. Regarding Mozilla, we have no signal from them. Thanks, Deepti On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 8:15 AM Chris Harrelson wrote: > Hi, I see that Mozilla has published an explainer >

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Extend Experiment: Cookie Deprecation Label

2025-04-30 Thread Patrick McCann
> While Storage Access Headers was recently shipped, we would like to allow more time for the ecosystem to adopt this new API and provide feedback on whether SAH satisfies their use cases (see example discussion

[blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: Viewport Segments Enumeration API

2025-04-30 Thread Alexis Menard
Hi, Actually, I stand corrected and my bad for not updating the links in the chromestatus entry. Both APIs were reviewed by the TAG in 2022: JS: https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/689 CSS: https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/690 Thanks. On Wednesday, April 30, 2025 at

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Prototype: Local Style References in Link Tags

2025-04-30 Thread 'Kurt Catti-Schmidt (SCHMIDT)' via blink-dev
You're right that there are a few ongoing discussions which specific attribute to use, but I don't think this blocks implementing the core feature behind a flag. I'll update the explainer to reflect the fetch behavior, thanks for pointing that out. I don't think it's a dealbreaker because 1) it

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: System accent color for accent-color property.

2025-04-30 Thread 'Priya Palanisamy' via blink-dev
Hi Yoav, For >>" Would that change current rendering of sites that don't set any accent-color?" *Yes*, when accent-color is not set, it is basically set to default value "auto", which will take system's accent color with this change. On Wednesday, April 30, 2025 at 5:36:31 AM UTC-7 Yoav Weiss (

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: Web serial over Bluetooth on Android

2025-04-30 Thread Chris Harrelson
Thanks! LGTM2 On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 9:15 AM 'Garfield Tan' via blink-dev < blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote: > > * Is this just extending existing support on desktop platforms for this > feature to Android? > > Yes. > > > * Are there any API shape changes to support serial over Bluetooth, or > is

[blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: Viewport Segments Enumeration API

2025-04-30 Thread Alexis Menard
On Wednesday, April 30, 2025 at 11:41:43 AM UTC-4 dan...@microsoft.com wrote: Looking at the linked WPTs, just 1 out of 3 is passing in Chrome Canary with experimental features enabled: https://wpt.fyi/results/viewport-segments?label=master&label=experimental&aligned Is that the expected resu

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Cache sharing for extremely-pervasive scripts

2025-04-30 Thread Patrick Meenan
Sorry if the doc didn't make it clear - the "attesting" that the doc envisions isn't expected to be an API or anything in code - it's expected to be something along the lines of a legal agreement or at least manual verification and confirmation by the owners (process - whatever legal and privacy th

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: Web serial over Bluetooth on Android

2025-04-30 Thread 'Garfield Tan' via blink-dev
> * Is this just extending existing support on desktop platforms for this feature to Android? Yes. > * Are there any API shape changes to support serial over Bluetooth, or is it handled entirely by the UA? No changes to any API spec. The UA handles the platform differences. On Wed, Apr 30, 2025

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Cache sharing for extremely-pervasive scripts

2025-04-30 Thread Mike Taylor
No developer-facing changes implies no approvals[1], but you will need a mechanical API OWNER approval in the chromestatus entry to ship this change (and run the experiment). AIUI, the design doc mentions sites attesting to benefit from this feature, so there will be a new API involved at some

[blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: Viewport Segments Enumeration API

2025-04-30 Thread Alexis Menard
Hi, On Wednesday, April 30, 2025 at 11:33:13 AM UTC-4 yoav...@chromium.org wrote: Thanks! Would it be possible to update the explainer to point to all the different moving parts of this, and ping the TAG and the vendor position requests, as they all seem rather old. Sure, I can make some cl

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Extend Experiment: Cookie Deprecation Label

2025-04-30 Thread Jxck
What is the motivation for 3rd Parties to experiment Privacy Sandbox, Storage Access API etc etc alternates 3rd Party Cookies from point of view of Chrome's vision change ? On Tuesday, April 29, 2025 at 11:48:05 PM UTC+9 Nan Lin wrote: > Contact emails > > lin...@chromium.org, jkar...@chromium

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Cache sharing for extremely-pervasive scripts

2025-04-30 Thread Jxck
Experiment candidates in Design docs only includes - google-analytics.com - googlesyndication.com - doubleclick.net - googletagmanager.com - googleapis.com - youtube.com - etc Even if this list were based on a neutral data analysis, it can't help thinking that Chrome is inte

[blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: Viewport Segments Enumeration API

2025-04-30 Thread 'Dan Clark' via blink-dev
Looking at the linked WPTs, just 1 out of 3 is passing in Chrome Canary with experimental features enabled: https://wpt.fyi/results/viewport-segments?label=master&label=experimental&aligned Is that the expected result? Thanks, Dan On Wednesday, April 30, 2025 at 8:33:13 AM UTC-7 yoav...@chromiu

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Cache sharing for extremely-pervasive scripts

2025-04-30 Thread Patrick Meenan
Is there a reason to change the chromestatus type? Presumably we'd want to be able to experiment with things that are internal and not developer-facing (and developers won't directly see any change from this). A lot of the Networking internals tend to fall into that bucket and it'd be nice (at leas

[blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: Viewport Segments Enumeration API

2025-04-30 Thread Yoav Weiss (@Shopify)
Thanks! Would it be possible to update the explainer to point to all the different moving parts of this, and ping the TAG and the vendor position requests, as they all seem rather old. The TAG specifically didn't really review this 5 years ago, and delegated to the CSSWG. It's worthwhile to ask

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Cache sharing for extremely-pervasive scripts

2025-04-30 Thread Mike Taylor
Yeah, probably. Jason, are you able to do some backend magic to convert the chromestatus type? On 4/30/25 10:33 AM, Patrick Meenan wrote: I'm hoping for 138 (code is in-flight now). I added 138 to the "dev trials section" but there doesn't appear to be any way to "experiment". The only stages

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Support transactional batchUpdate() and disallow batch inner locks

2025-04-30 Thread Mike Taylor
LGTM3 On 4/30/25 11:24 AM, Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) wrote: LGTM2 On Wednesday, April 30, 2025 at 5:23:41 PM UTC+2 Chris Harrelson wrote: LGTM1 On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 1:16 PM Yao Xiao wrote: Intent to Ship: Support transactional batchUpdate() and disallow batch inner lo

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Support transactional batchUpdate() and disallow batch inner locks

2025-04-30 Thread Yoav Weiss (@Shopify)
LGTM2 On Wednesday, April 30, 2025 at 5:23:41 PM UTC+2 Chris Harrelson wrote: > LGTM1 > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 1:16 PM Yao Xiao wrote: > >> Intent to Ship: Support transactional batchUpdate() and disallow batch >> inner locks >> >> Contact emails >> >> yao...@chromium.org >> >> cam...@chromi

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Support transactional batchUpdate() and disallow batch inner locks

2025-04-30 Thread Chris Harrelson
LGTM1 On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 1:16 PM Yao Xiao wrote: > Intent to Ship: Support transactional batchUpdate() and disallow batch > inner locks > > Contact emails > > yao...@chromium.org > > cam...@chromium.org > > jkar...@chromium.org > > saraak...@google.com > > kaskulikow...@google.com > > Expla

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: Web serial over Bluetooth on Android

2025-04-30 Thread Chris Harrelson
Hi, two questions about this intent: * Is this just extending existing support on desktop platforms for this feature to Android? * Are there any API shape changes to support serial over Bluetooth, or is it handled entirely by the UA? On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 10:14 AM 'Garfield Tan' via blink-dev <

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Language Detector API

2025-04-30 Thread Jeffrey Yasskin
The discussion in the API owners meeting raised the question of whether language detection has fewer fingerprinting risks than the other APIs covered by https://webmachinelearning.github.io/writing-assistance-apis/#privacy. Could you say something about that in https://webmachinelearning.github.io/

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: Language Detector API

2025-04-30 Thread Chris Harrelson
Hi, I see that Mozilla has published an explainer for an (alternate?) translation API. I realize that their explainer may not cover language detection, but language detection is part of a larger spec linked here that includes translat

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Cache sharing for extremely-pervasive scripts

2025-04-30 Thread Patrick Meenan
As Mike mentioned, the design doc links to the spreadsheet with the full list of candidate URLs t

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Cache sharing for extremely-pervasive scripts

2025-04-30 Thread Patrick Meenan
I'm hoping for 138 (code is in-flight now). I added 138 to the "dev trials section" but there doesn't appear to be any way to "experiment". The only stages that come after (or can be added) are shipping. Maybe because it's "No developer-facing change" for the feature type? On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 a

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: System accent color for accent-color property.

2025-04-30 Thread Yoav Weiss (@Shopify)
On Wednesday, April 30, 2025 at 1:07:19 PM UTC+2 Mike Taylor wrote: Or rather, LGTM2 On 4/30/25 7:06 AM, Mike Taylor wrote: Thanks, LGTM1 On 4/29/25 1:45 PM, Priya Palanisamy wrote: Hi Mike, Yes, the I2S proposes using the system accent color when the value is set to "auto". To clarify,

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Ignore Letter Spacing in Cursive Scripts

2025-04-30 Thread Yoav Weiss (@Shopify)
Hey Sejal! Thanks for working on this, as that seems super important! Would you be able to address Vlad's questions regarding the potential compat impact? On Wednesday, April 23, 2025 at 6:17:38 PM UTC+2 sejal...@microsoft.com wrote: > Hi Chris , > > This change will result in second 'OK' examp

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Implement and Ship: Integrity Policy for scripts

2025-04-30 Thread Yoav Weiss (@Shopify)
Thanks for the LGTMs!! The code for this didn't make the 137 branch, so I'm now aiming for M138. The PR discussions raised one salient question regarding worker support . That ended up convincing me that for c

Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Implement and Ship: isSecurePaymentConfirmationAvailable API

2025-04-30 Thread Mike Taylor
LGTM2 On 4/28/25 5:43 PM, Chris Harrelson wrote: LGTM1. Please make sure to ping the standards positions with the updated shape as well. On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 12:08 PM Stephen McGruer wrote: > Conveniently, the various review bits that we now require are not requested at http

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: System accent color for accent-color property.

2025-04-30 Thread Mike Taylor
Or rather, LGTM2 On 4/30/25 7:06 AM, Mike Taylor wrote: Thanks, LGTM1 On 4/29/25 1:45 PM, Priya Palanisamy wrote: Hi Mike, Yes, the I2S proposes using the system accent color when the value is set to "auto". To clarify, "auto" is also the default option if no value is provided. Therefor

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: System accent color for accent-color property.

2025-04-30 Thread Mike Taylor
Thanks, LGTM1 On 4/29/25 1:45 PM, Priya Palanisamy wrote: Hi Mike, Yes, the I2S proposes using the system accent color when the value is set to "auto". To clarify, "auto" is also the default option if no value is provided. Therefore, if the accent-color is not explicitly set, the form elem

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Cache sharing for extremely-pervasive scripts

2025-04-30 Thread Mike Taylor
The design doc also links to https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hW-xXj9zEdkTJMVE4b4qcflB00WxsOG72Y0LVtSjcWI/edit?gid=1602510613#gid=1602510613, and an HTTP archive query to produce it. On 4/30/25 5:07 AM, Jxck wrote: Experiment candidates in Design docs only includes * google-analytics

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Experiment: Cache sharing for extremely-pervasive scripts

2025-04-30 Thread Mike Taylor
Thanks Patrick. It will be interesting to learn how the experiment goes, and any possible improvements, especially if resources are changing hourly. I look forward to learning more about how sites will attest to always return the same payload, if the experiment proves successful. One last que

[blink-dev] Intent to Prototype: @scroll-state scroll-direction support

2025-04-30 Thread 'Munira Tursunova' via blink-dev
Contact emailsmoon...@google.com Explainer https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/blob/a06df07e696169cc4d0363aadd118cb8927e2b9d/css-conditional-5/scroll_state_explainer.md SpecificationNone Summary Allows authors to style descendants of containers based on the scrolling direction. Example: .scroll

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Prototype: Local Style References in Link Tags

2025-04-30 Thread Noam Rosenthal
On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 3:14 AM 'Kurt Catti-Schmidt (SCHMIDT)' via blink-dev wrote: > Contact emails > ksc...@microsoft.com > > Explainer > > https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/MSEdgeExplainers/blob/main/LocalReferenceLinkRel/explainer.md > > Specification > This will be added to the HTML5 specific