Re: [Bitcoin-development] Revisiting the BIPS process, a proposal

2013-10-23 Thread Luke-Jr
On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 9:42:14 PM Allen Piscitello wrote: > That being said, it's a huge chicken and egg problem. No one wants to go > off the reference client since it could lead to working on a forked chain > as a miner or having bad data as a client. Thankfully, miners are incentivised

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Revisiting the BIPS process, a proposal

2013-10-23 Thread Allen Piscitello
I think formalizing the specification could go a long way and encouraging alternate implementations is going to be the best way to reduce unexpected small bugs having a bad effect except on the "buggy" node. That being said, it's a huge chicken and egg problem. No one wants to go off the referenc

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Revisiting the BIPS process, a proposal

2013-10-23 Thread Pieter Wuille
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Peter Todd wrote: > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:05:56PM +0200, Martin Sustrik wrote: >> On 23/10/13 21:40, Peter Todd wrote: >> >> >The reference implementation is the specification - the "specification" >> >on the wiki is best thought of as a set of Coles Notes on

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Revisiting the BIPS process, a proposal

2013-10-23 Thread Peter Todd
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:05:56PM +0200, Martin Sustrik wrote: > On 23/10/13 21:40, Peter Todd wrote: > > >The reference implementation is the specification - the "specification" > >on the wiki is best thought of as a set of Coles Notes on the real > >specification. If you don't already understan

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Revisiting the BIPS process, a proposal

2013-10-23 Thread Martin Sustrik
On 23/10/13 21:40, Peter Todd wrote: > The reference implementation is the specification - the "specification" > on the wiki is best thought of as a set of Coles Notes on the real > specification. If you don't already understand that and the nuance of > that statement you should assume the protoco

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Revisiting the BIPS process, a proposal

2013-10-23 Thread Peter Todd
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 09:38:31AM +0200, Martin Sustrik wrote: > On 22/10/13 16:08, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > All that is good practice, but we should avoid adding burdensome > > process that might discourage BIP writing. > > > > Consider a distributed approach: if you feel a draft needs more > > se

Re: [Bitcoin-development] "Bitcoin codebase is actually really simple and readable."

2013-10-23 Thread Peter Todd
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 08:02:07AM -0700, Ron wrote: > I feel that I must respond to the statements that > 1. > the Bitcoin codebase is actually really > simple and readable. > > 2. > However remember that the implications of that > codebase are anything but simple; there's lots of reasons to th

Re: [Bitcoin-development] "Bitcoin codebase is actually really simple and readable."

2013-10-23 Thread Ron
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Revisiting the BIPS process, a proposal

2013-10-23 Thread Martin Sustrik
On 22/10/13 16:08, Jeff Garzik wrote: > All that is good practice, but we should avoid adding burdensome > process that might discourage BIP writing. > > Consider a distributed approach: if you feel a draft needs more > sections or better language, submit a pull request yourself and help > communi