Re: [bitcoin-dev] [Lightning-dev] Removing the Dust Limit

2021-08-18 Thread shymaa arafat via bitcoin-dev
Dear Sir, I'm not discussing the dust limit here, but I'm suggesting some mitigations to the dust problem which tackles almost the same points mentioned here especially the scalability of the UTXOS set and the corresponding Merkle proofs/witnesses in Utreexo or any similar design . I suggest:

Re: [bitcoin-dev] [Lightning-dev] Removing the Dust Limit

2021-08-20 Thread shymaa arafat via bitcoin-dev
On Fri, Aug 20, 2021, 06:52 Jeremy via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > one interesting point that came up at the bitdevs in austin today that > favors remove that i believe is new to this discussion (it was new to me): > > the argument can be reduced to: > > - dust li

Re: [bitcoin-dev] [Lightning-dev] Removing the Dust Limit

2021-08-27 Thread shymaa arafat via bitcoin-dev
Allow me to ask: -Untill you find a mitigation that consolidate all dust UTXOS, why don't you separate them and all probably Unspendable UTXOS in a different partition? -I'm talking at the real UTXO storage level (to be kept in secondary storage), and at the Merkleization level in any accumulator

[bitcoin-dev] Storing the Merkle Tree in a compact way

2021-09-11 Thread shymaa arafat via bitcoin-dev
Allow me to introduce this simple idea that could be useful ... -The Intuition was some discussion on Utreexo project about storage saving and some traversing issues in handling the UTXOS Merkle Tree/ forest; that is N internal nodes need to be stored along with 2N pointers (left&right), + maybe

Re: [bitcoin-dev] [Lightning-dev] Removing the Dust Limit

2021-10-08 Thread shymaa arafat via bitcoin-dev
If u allow me to discuss,,, I previously suggested storing dust UTXOS in a separate Merkle tree or strucutre in general if we are talking about the original set. I'm a kind of person who doesn't like to throw any thing; if it's not needed now keep it in the basement for example. So, if dust UTXOS m

Re: [bitcoin-dev] [Lightning-dev] Removing the Dust Limit

2021-10-08 Thread shymaa arafat via bitcoin-dev
The suggested idea I was replying to is to make all dust TXs invalid by some nodes. I suggested a compromise by keeping them in secondary storage for full nodes, and in a separate Merkle Tree for bridge servers. -In bridge servers they won't increase any worstcase, on the contrary this will enhance

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Take 2: Removing the Dust Limit

2022-01-21 Thread shymaa arafat via bitcoin-dev
Dear Sir, Regarding your message https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2021-December/019636.html Specifically the part *"Right now, lightning anchor outputs use a 330 sats amount. Each commitment* *transaction has two such outputs, and only one of them is spent"* I was wondering *

[bitcoin-dev] A suggestion to periodically destroy (or remove to secondary storage for Archiving reasons) dust, Non-standard UTXOs, and also detected burn

2022-02-06 Thread shymaa arafat via bitcoin-dev
Dear Bitcoin Developers, -I think you may remember me sending to you about my proposal to partition ( and other stuff all about) the UTXO set Merkle in bridge servers providing proofs Stateless nodes. -While those previous suggestions might not have been on the most interest of core Developers, I

Re: [bitcoin-dev] A suggestion to periodically destroy (or remove to secondary storage for Archiving reasons) dust, Non-standard UTXOs, and also detected burn

2022-02-07 Thread shymaa arafat via bitcoin-dev
On Mon, Feb 7, 2022, 16:44 Billy Tetrud via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > > every lightning network transaction adds one dust UTXO > > Could you clarify what you mean here? What dust do lightning transactions > create? > I mean this msg https://lists.linuxfoundation

Re: [bitcoin-dev] A suggestion to periodically destroy (or remove to secondary storage for Archiving reasons) dust, Non-standard UTXOs, and also detected burn

2022-02-13 Thread shymaa arafat via bitcoin-dev
I just want to add an alarming info to this thread... *There are at least 5.7m UTXOs≤1000 Sat (~7%), * *8.04 m ≤1$ (10%), * *13.5m ≤ 0.0001BTC (17%)* It seems that bitInfoCharts took my enquiry seriously and added a main link for dust analysis: https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-dustiest-bitcoin-a

Re: [bitcoin-dev] A suggestion to periodically destroy (or remove to secondary storage for Archiving reasons) dust, Non-standard UTXOs, and also detected burn

2022-02-13 Thread shymaa arafat via bitcoin-dev
Are you big Developers aware of what is said in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5385559.new#new That "Omni" ALT coin, and all Alt coins and new protocols do create such extensive amount of dust that they are thinking of dividing 1 Satoshi to fractions or how to accept a UTXO wi

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP proposal: Fee-redistribution contracts

2023-02-28 Thread shymaa arafat via bitcoin-dev
If you allow me to comment (just with a bird eye, have not read the paper only the abstract) I think the Bitcoin community may consider the intuition of somewhat "Future Saving" through TX fees: ie, the idea of saving a ratio of the fees (say half to be decreased to half with each reward halving)i