Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposal: Demonstration of Phase in Full Network Upgrade Activated by Miners

2017-06-13 Thread James Hilliard via bitcoin-dev
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 1:50 AM, Zheming Lin wrote: > Hi James: > > Thank you very much for detailed feedback. Sorry for my understanding of > English being poor. I’ll try to answer that. > > > 在 2017年6月13日,13:44,James Hilliard 写道: > > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 9:23 PM, Zheming Lin via bitcoin-dev

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposal: Demonstration of Phase in Full Network Upgrade Activated by Miners

2017-06-13 Thread James Hilliard via bitcoin-dev
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 3:13 AM, Zheming Lin wrote: > Hi James: > > 在 2017年6月13日,15:19,James Hilliard 写道: > > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 1:50 AM, Zheming Lin wrote: > > Hi James: > > Thank you very much for detailed feedback. Sorry for my understanding of > English being poor. I’ll try to answer th

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposal: Demonstration of Phase in Full Network Upgrade Activated by Miners

2017-06-13 Thread Zheming Lin via bitcoin-dev
Hi James: Thank you very much for detailed feedback. Sorry for my understanding of English being poor. I’ll try to answer that. > 在 2017年6月13日,13:44,James Hilliard 写道: > > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 9:23 PM, Zheming Lin via bitcoin-dev > > wrote: >>

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposal: Demonstration of Phase in Full Network Upgrade Activated by Miners

2017-06-13 Thread Zheming Lin via bitcoin-dev
Hi James: > 在 2017年6月13日,15:19,James Hilliard 写道: > > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 1:50 AM, Zheming Lin > wrote: >> Hi James: >> >> Thank you very much for detailed feedback. Sorry for my understanding of >> English being poor. I’ll try to answer that. >> >> >> 在 2017年6月1

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposal: Demonstration of Phase in Full Network Upgrade Activated by Miners

2017-06-13 Thread Zheming Lin via bitcoin-dev
Hi all the developers: I must clarify that despite the general ideas comes from discussions with others. The opinion in replies are only limited to my self. The old TXs can be re-enable after the fourth stage and just like **nothing happened** with the grace periods. The code can be provided wi

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposal: Demonstration of Phase in Full Network Upgrade Activated by Miners

2017-06-13 Thread James Hilliard via bitcoin-dev
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 3:24 AM, Zheming Lin via bitcoin-dev wrote: > Hi all the developers: > > I must clarify that despite the general ideas comes from discussions with > others. The opinion in replies are only limited to my self. > > The old TXs can be re-enable after the fourth stage and just

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposal: Demonstration of Phase in Full Network Upgrade Activated by Miners

2017-06-13 Thread Gregory Maxwell via bitcoin-dev
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 2:23 AM, Zheming Lin via bitcoin-dev wrote: > The BIP is described using Chinese and English. If any part is missing or > need more specific, please reply. Forgive for my poor English. Your English is much better than my Chinese. Thank you for taking the time to write th

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposal: Demonstration of Phase in Full Network Upgrade Activated by Miners

2017-06-13 Thread Jared Lee Richardson via bitcoin-dev
> Wallet nodes being able to fully validate and choose whether or not to accept a particular chain is an important part of bitcoins security model. What you're describing is effectively the same as BU. Nodes follow chains, they do not decide the victor. The average user follows the default of th

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposal: Demonstration of Phase in Full Network Upgrade Activated by Miners

2017-06-13 Thread James Hilliard via bitcoin-dev
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Jared Lee Richardson wrote: >> Wallet nodes being able to fully validate and choose whether or not to > accept a particular chain is an important part of bitcoins security > model. > > What you're describing is effectively the same as BU. BU by default uses an "Ac

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposal: Demonstration of Phase in Full Network Upgrade Activated by Miners

2017-06-13 Thread Jared Lee Richardson via bitcoin-dev
> and allows for resource requirements > that are too high for many users to validate. The block size settings > there are effectively placebo controls. Right, but that's my point. Any level of control the fullnodes believe they have is effectively a placebo, unless the opposition to the miners i