Re: [bitcoin-dev] PayJoin adoption

2021-01-19 Thread Chris Belcher via bitcoin-dev
Regarding incentives, privacy is itself an incentive. If your business suffers from being spied on (for example you're a casino or p2p exchange, and regulated exchanges keep banning your customers) then the cost of adopting payjoin is worth it. That's why I expect and hope that p2p exchanges will

Re: [bitcoin-dev] PayJoin adoption

2021-01-18 Thread Lucas Ontivero via bitcoin-dev
Hi Before all, thanks for the wiki page tracking the payjoin adoption, it is a good idea. - Even when there is a reasonable economical incentive to use segwit transactions to save fees a big percentage of the transactions are not using segwit yet. In the case of payjoins the economic incenti

Re: [bitcoin-dev] PayJoin adoption

2021-01-16 Thread Craig Raw via bitcoin-dev
Hey Chris, You can add Sparrow Wallet to the list for Sending :) I think one of the barriers to greater Payjoin adoption is the need for a server endpoint on the receiving side. Ideally, all wallets should be able to conduct Payjoin transactions with each other. This would require a different mec

Re: [bitcoin-dev] PayJoin adoption

2021-01-15 Thread dev_f via bitcoin-dev
Hey Chris, I assume that a major reason for the lack of adoption is the lack of visibility. I personally first found out about PayJoin when using BTCPayServer for a donation and being told by the site that PayJoin was available (https://hrf.org/donate-bitcoin/payjoin/). The wiki page you created

[bitcoin-dev] PayJoin adoption

2021-01-15 Thread Chris Belcher via bitcoin-dev
PayJoin is an exciting bitcoin privacy technology which has the potential to damage the ability of blockchain surveillance to spy on bitcoin users and destroy bitcoin's fungibility. A protocol standard has already been defined and implemented by a couple of projects such as BTCPayServer, Wasabi Wal