Re: [bitcoin-dev] How to evaluate block size increase suggestions.

2015-11-14 Thread Johnathan Corgan via bitcoin-dev
This topic is straying from Bitcoin development into general Bitcoin governance, policy, or other meta-issues. We have now the new bitcoin-discuss mailing list now, specifically for these more free-flowing topics: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-discuss Please take fur

Re: [bitcoin-dev] How to evaluate block size increase suggestions.

2015-11-14 Thread Peter R via bitcoin-dev
> It looks like some specific meta-level criteria would help more at this point > than new proposals all exploring a different variants of block size increase > schedules. I agree. In fact, I’ll go meta on your meta and suggest that we should first discuss how Bitcoin should be governed in the

Re: [bitcoin-dev] How to evaluate block size increase suggestions.

2015-11-14 Thread Mariusz Nowostawski via bitcoin-dev
> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 11:37:51 -0500 > From: Emin G?n Sirer > To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > Subject: [bitcoin-dev] How to evaluate block size increase > suggestions. > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >

Re: [bitcoin-dev] How to evaluate block size increase suggestions.

2015-11-14 Thread Jorge Timón via bitcoin-dev
I agree with the usefulness of at least trying to define a formal set of criteria. I'm afraid that with proposals that schedule future increases to the blocksize consensus maximum or leave it for miners to decide (like BIP100, BIP101 and BIP103) cannot be evaluated without making assumptions about

Re: [bitcoin-dev] How to evaluate block size increase suggestions.

2015-11-14 Thread Angel Leon via bitcoin-dev
I believe in the end it's the usability of bitcoin that matters. For instance, a goal could be that no user on the network should wait more than an hour to get 3 confirmations on the blockchain so that they can actually have useful Bitcoins. We can debate all we want about lots of technical aspec

[bitcoin-dev] How to evaluate block size increase suggestions.

2015-11-13 Thread Emin Gün Sirer via bitcoin-dev
By now, we have seen quite a few proposals for the block size increase. It's hard not to notice that there are potentially infinitely many functions for future block size increases. One could, for instance, double every N years for any rational number N, one could increase linearly, one could doubl