Re: [bitcoin-dev] Eli Dourado on "governance"

2015-08-07 Thread Thomas Zander via bitcoin-dev
On Monday 3. August 2015 11.22.14 Gavin Andresen via bitcoin-dev wrote: > (my only big disagreement with those predictions is the 'Number of nodes' > -- I don't think replace-by-fee would affect that number, and I think even > with no change we will see the number of full nodes on the network drop

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Eli Dourado on "governance"

2015-08-05 Thread Mashuri Clark via bitcoin-dev
CORRECTION: That's Paul Sztorc. Not Peter.  Apologies for my abysmal proofreading. -- MC On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 8:08 PM -0700, "Eric Lombrozo via bitcoin-dev" wrote: Rather than speculating on fake markets, why don’t we use theory, empirical data, and engineering to fix the damn

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Eli Dourado on "governance"

2015-08-04 Thread Mashuri Clark via bitcoin-dev
Why not speculate on a real market?  Peter Sztorc proposed a sidechain that could be implemented now using Blockstream's method: http://www.truthcoin.info/blog/win-win-blocksize/ -- MC On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 8:08 PM -0700, "Eric Lombrozo via bitcoin-dev" wrote: Rather than specul

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Eli Dourado on "governance"

2015-08-04 Thread Eric Lombrozo via bitcoin-dev
Rather than speculating on fake markets, why don’t we use theory, empirical data, and engineering to fix the damn problems? > On Aug 4, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Owen via bitcoin-dev > wrote: > > Given there is no money at stake in these prediction games, it is no surprise > that the results are imp

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Eli Dourado on "governance"

2015-08-04 Thread Owen via bitcoin-dev
Given there is no money at stake in these prediction games, it is no surprise that the results are implausible. On August 4, 2015 10:22:19 AM EDT, Anthony Towns via bitcoin-dev wrote: >On 4 August 2015 at 01:22, Gavin Andresen via bitcoin-dev < >bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > >

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Eli Dourado on "governance"

2015-08-04 Thread Anthony Towns via bitcoin-dev
On 4 August 2015 at 01:22, Gavin Andresen via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > And the preliminary results of using a prediction market to try to wrestle > with the tough tradeoffs looks roughly correct to me, too: >https://blocksizedebate.com/ > ​The scicast pred

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Eli Dourado on "governance"

2015-08-03 Thread Gavin Andresen via bitcoin-dev
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 6:13 PM, GJB wrote: > Do you mean something like a Foundation? > No, I think one of the fundamental problems with the Foundation is it tries to represent everybody's interests. The interests of exchanges are not necessarily the same as end-users or miners, for example. Bu

[bitcoin-dev] Eli Dourado on "governance"

2015-08-03 Thread Gavin Andresen via bitcoin-dev
I haven't seen this excellent recent blog post by Eli Dourado referenced here: https://readplaintext.com/how-should-bitcoin-be-governed-680192fcd92b I agree with his conclusions: we need better communication/organization mechanisms among 'stakeholders' and between the various factions (developer