Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block solving slowdown

2020-03-30 Thread ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev
Good morning Andrew, Another thing I did not consider is how miners will actually behave under this ruleset. Miners are the direct beneficiaries of any increased inflation rate voted in. Miners are also ultimately the ones who decide which transactions get added into blocks, or put another way

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block solving slowdown

2020-03-29 Thread ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev
Good morning Andrew, > > Fortunately in our case, only the top 4,000,000 weight worth of transactions > > gets in a block. Every bitcoin spender has an incentive to spend as little > > as possible to get into this top 4,000,000 weight and no more, but they > > still > > have to outbid every other

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block solving slowdown

2020-03-29 Thread Andrew Cann via bitcoin-dev
> Fortunately in our case, only the top 4,000,000 weight worth of transactions > gets in a block. Every bitcoin spender has an incentive to spend as little > as possible to get into this top 4,000,000 weight and no more, but they still > have to outbid every other user who wants the same security.

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block solving slowdown question/poll

2020-03-27 Thread ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev
Good morning Andrew, > Here's a better explanation than I could write of the phenomenon I'm talking > about: > > > As a thought experiment, let’s consider aquaculture (fish farming) in a > > lake. > > Imagine a lake with a thousand identical fish farms owned by a thousand > > competing companies.

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block solving slowdown question/poll

2020-03-27 Thread Andrew Cann via bitcoin-dev
> To change the supply is far too big a change. It would also be a big change if bitcoin became unusable due to mining profits dropping low enough for a state actor with a warehouse full of asics to mount a 51% attack and mine empty blocks all day. > What happens if I own a few million Bitcoin an

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block solving slowdown question/poll

2020-03-25 Thread Andrew Cann via bitcoin-dev
Hi, noob question here: Is there a long-term plan for if the block reward drops too low to ensure the security of the network? IIUC miners only make profit from block rewards and transaction fees, and once the block reward drop to zero we're merely hoping that transaction fees will keep mining exp

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block solving slowdown question/poll

2020-03-25 Thread Andrew Cann via bitcoin-dev
Hi, thanks for the replies. > Anyway, yes, your idea is fundamentally broken because a zero block reward > happens because creating even one more satoshi will push the amount of > bitcoin over 21,000,, breaking the meaning of "bitcoin," or, if you > like, creating a fundamental contradiction i

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block solving slowdown question/poll

2020-03-25 Thread ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev
Good morning Andrew, > > > Anyway, yes, your idea is fundamentally broken because a zero block reward > > happens because creating even one more satoshi will push the amount of > > bitcoin over 21,000,, breaking the meaning of "bitcoin," or, if you > > like, creating a fundamental contradictio

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block solving slowdown question/poll

2020-03-24 Thread ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev
Good morning Andrew, > > Hi, noob question here: Is there a long-term plan for if the block reward > > drops > > too low to ensure the security of the network? > > > > IIUC miners only make profit from block rewards and transaction fees, and > > once > > the block reward drop to zero we're mere

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block solving slowdown question/poll

2020-03-23 Thread Dave Scotese via bitcoin-dev
I believe this isn't something we need to address. The fact is that every byte stored in the blockchain is already valuable to everyone who downloads the blockchain because of what it allows them to prove - by adding more bytes to it. Over time, the value per byte will increase. Perhaps there wi

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block solving slowdown question/poll

2020-03-22 Thread Dave Scotese via bitcoin-dev
t:* Sunday, 22 March 2020 6:54 PM > *To:* Dave Scotese ; Bitcoin Protocol Discussion > > *Subject:* Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block solving slowdown question/poll > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 11:40:24AM -0700, Dave Scotese via bitcoin-dev > wrote: > > [Imagine] we also see mining power

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block solving slowdown question/poll

2020-03-22 Thread Eric Voskuil via bitcoin-dev
sed > elsewhere some time ago. > > Regards, > LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH > > > From: bitcoin-dev on behalf > of David A. Harding via bitcoin-dev > Sent: Sunday, 22 March 2020 6:54 PM > To: Dave Scotese ; Bitcoin Protocol Discussion > > Subject: Re: [bitc

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block solving slowdown question/poll

2020-03-22 Thread LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH via bitcoin-dev
bitcoin-dev Sent: Sunday, 22 March 2020 6:54 PM To: Dave Scotese ; Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block solving slowdown question/poll On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 11:40:24AM -0700, Dave Scotese via bitcoin-dev wrote: > [Imagine] we also see mining power dropping off at a r

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block solving slowdown question/poll

2020-03-22 Thread David A. Harding via bitcoin-dev
On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 11:40:24AM -0700, Dave Scotese via bitcoin-dev wrote: > [Imagine] we also see mining power dropping off at a rate that > suggests the few days [until retarget] might become a few weeks, and > then, possibly, a few months or even the unthinkable, a few eons. I'm > curious to

[bitcoin-dev] Block solving slowdown question/poll

2020-03-21 Thread Dave Scotese via bitcoin-dev
It seems that many on this list think deeply enough to imagine the scenario where we have few days left before a difficulty adjustment comes up but we also see mining power dropping off at a rate that suggests the few days might become a few weeks, and then, possibly, a few months or even the unth