Re: [bitcoin-dev] Speedy Trial

2022-03-30 Thread pushd via bitcoin-dev
> No it does not. This narrative is the worst. A bad explanation of speedy > trial can mislead people into thinking miner signalling is how Bitcoin > upgrades are voted in. But a bad explanation can explain anything badly. I agree it is worst but why do you think this narrative exists? People ha

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Speedy Trial

2022-03-30 Thread Billy Tetrud via bitcoin-dev
@Pushd > Speedy trial makes it worse by misleading lot of bitcoin users including miners to consider signaling as voting and majority votes decide if a soft fork gets activated No it does not. This narrative is the worst. A bad explanation of speedy trial can mislead people into thinking miner si

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Silent Payments – Non-interactive private payments with no on-chain overhead

2022-03-30 Thread Billy via bitcoin-dev
Hi Ruben, After sending that last night, I realized the solution I had to deprivatizing the sender wouldn't work because it had the same problem of even divisibility in modulo N. And my math was incomplete I think. Also Marco D'Agostini pointed out other errors. And all this assumes that a modulus

[bitcoin-dev] WabiSabi P2EP / Wormhole 2.0

2022-03-30 Thread Max Hillebrand via bitcoin-dev
Hello List, tl;dr, users of WabiSabi coinjoin can pay arbitrary amounts of bitcoin, so that the sender does not learn the address/output of the receiver, and the receiver does not learn the input of the sender. This improves the previously proposed 'Wormhole' for Chaumian blind signature coin

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Speedy Trial

2022-03-30 Thread pushd via bitcoin-dev
> Any case where a flawed proposal makes it through getting activation parameters set and released, but doesn't achieve supermajority hashpowersupport is made worse by bip8/lot=true in comparison to speedy trial. - Flawed proposal making it through activation is a failure of review process - Sup

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Silent Payments – Non-interactive private payments with no on-chain overhead

2022-03-30 Thread Billy via bitcoin-dev
> the sender can get in trouble too if they send money Good point. > how well this can be optimized without resorting to reducing anonymity Complete shot in the dark, but I wonder if something akin to compact block filters could be done to support this case. If, for example, the tweaked key wer