Re: [bitcoin-dev] Taproot NACK

2021-03-17 Thread LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH via bitcoin-dev
Good afternoon, That is not desirable since yourself and I cannot prove the property of the UTXO when it is further spent unless we can ourselves scrutinize it. We have had this conversation before where you approach your reply to resolve that I have offered disagreement and I try to explain I

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Taproot NACK

2021-03-17 Thread LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH via bitcoin-dev
Good Afternoon, If you actually believe the operation of consensus and the discussion relevant to that is a mundane or philosophical dissection of people's ability to grasp a humorous while on-topic but obligatorily unnecessary conversation you may prefer if you enquire how Bitcoin is censorshi

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Proposal: Consensus (hard fork) PoST Datastore for Energy Efficient Mining

2021-03-17 Thread Lonero Foundation via bitcoin-dev
The advantage is simple, access to more computational opportunities means a more scalable network and other reasons, including further options for optimization. There are also lots of reasons to believe a huge demand of unmet needs in this space. Why force people to mine Chia if they want to mine B

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Proposal: Consensus (hard fork) PoST Datastore for Energy Efficient Mining

2021-03-17 Thread Lonero Foundation via bitcoin-dev
I wouldn't fully discount general purpose hardware or hardware outside of the realm of ASICS. BOINC (https://cds.cern.ch/record/800111/files/p1099.pdf) implements a decent distributed computing protocol (granted it isn't a cryptocurrency), but it far computes data at a much cheaper cost compared to

Re: [bitcoin-dev] PSA: Taproot loss of quantum protections

2021-03-17 Thread Eoin McQuinn via bitcoin-dev
How do people in other non-English-speaking parts of the world use and develop Bitcoin Core? On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 1:24 AM Ryan Grant via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > I enjoyed the reindexing using a distinct subject and I appreciate the > new clarifications by

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Taproot activation meeting on IRC - Tuesday 16th March 19:00 UTC

2021-03-17 Thread Prayank via bitcoin-dev
> the last thing we need is a rushed upgrade Why do you think this is rushed? Speedy Trial will have few months and if UASF is required it won't involve activation immediately after ST fails. Taproot by 2022 doesn't look rushed approach IMO. > We're not changing things that we worked out alread

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Signature and Script Independent Hierarchy for Deterministic Wallets.

2021-03-17 Thread Craig Raw via bitcoin-dev
The motivation for this BIP proposal states that encoding the script type in the derivation is redundant because output descriptors are becoming commonplace. However, I think it's important to note that this shifts more burden of wallet backup onto the user, who now has an additional item (the outp

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Provisions (was: PSA: Taproot loss of quantum protections)

2021-03-17 Thread Andrea via bitcoin-dev
Thanks for your time Andrew and ZmnSCPxj, Jonas contrib was also referenced in twitter post provided by Andrew, but the repetion is an effective underlining of its importance :) I'm busy-at-work for a couple of days, but I'm planning my weekend spare time to deal with infos from both of you..

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Taproot NACK

2021-03-17 Thread ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev
Good morning, > Good afternoon, > > That is not desirable since yourself and I cannot prove the property of the > UTXO when it is further spent unless we can ourselves scrutinize it. What property *needs* to be proven in the first place? I suspect you are riding too much on your preferences and

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Taproot NACK

2021-03-17 Thread Eric Voskuil via bitcoin-dev
> If you actually believe the operation of consensus and the discussion > relevant to that is a mundane or philosophical dissection of people's ability > to grasp a humorous while on-topic but obligatorily unnecessary conversation > you may prefer if you enquire how Bitcoin is censorship-resist