On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 09:54:23PM +, Gregory Maxwell via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> If times need to be accurate Bitcoin would need to use a rather
> different design (e.g. each block would commit to the observation time
> of the prior N blocks, and an iterative algorithm would solve for each
> bloc
On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 03:30:21AM +, CANNON via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> On 01/30/2018 01:43 AM, CANNON via bitcoin-dev wrote:
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> > Forwarded Message
> > Subject: RE: NIST 8202 Blockchain Technology Overview
> > Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 12:25:05 +
> > From: Yaga, Dylan
On 01/29/2018 05:59 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 11:21 PM, Eric Voskuil wrote:
>> Block space created by a miner is property that belongs to the miner, it
>> can be sold or not sold.
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> That case would be stronger when there is no more subsidy, but we
> collectively the u
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On 01/30/2018 01:43 AM, CANNON via bitcoin-dev wrote:
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> Forwarded Message
> Subject: RE: NIST 8202 Blockchain Technology Overview
> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 12:25:05 +
> From: Yaga, Dylan (Fed)
> To: CANNON
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> Thank you
On Wed, 24 Jan 2018, rmcc via bitcoin-dev wrote:
I know from speaking to my friends not involved with Bitcoin that two of
their major concerns are as follows:
1. They are afraid if they fat finger the address there is nothing they can
do about it and not get their Bitcoin back.
I can emp
Forwarded Message
Subject: RE: NIST 8202 Blockchain Technology Overview
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 12:25:05 +
From: Yaga, Dylan (Fed)
To: CANNON
Thank you for your comments.
You, along with many others, expressed concern on section 8.1.2.
To help foster a full transparency ap
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 11:21 PM, Eric Voskuil wrote:
> Block space created by a miner is property that belongs to the miner, it
> can be sold or not sold.
That case would be stronger when there is no more subsidy, but we
collectively the uses of Bitcoin are currently paying miners around
$130k U
On 01/29/2018 01:22 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 4:49 AM, Eric Voskuil via bitcoin-dev
> wrote:
>> I'm not sure who cooked up this myth about miners gaining advantage over
>> those who buy block space by mining empty space, rejecting higher-fee
>> transactions, and/or minin
The terms "simple ordering of blocks" and timestamp are essentially the
same thing.
On Jan 29, 2018 1:16 PM, "Neiman via bitcoin-dev" <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> First time posting here, please be gentle.
>
> I'm doing a research project about blockchain timestamping. There
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 7:34 AM, Neiman via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
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> But how accurate are Bitcoins timestamps?
>
A perspective on block timestamp and opentimestamps can be found here:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-blockchain/2016Sep/0076.html
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On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 9:40 PM, Tier Nolan via bitcoin-dev
wrote:
> For check locktime, the median of the last 11 blocks is used as an improved
> indicator of what the actual real time is. Again, it assumes that a
> majority of the miners are honest.
It would be more accurate to say that the me
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 1:34 PM, Neiman via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
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> *2.* Timestamps are not necessary to avoid double-spending. A simple
> ordering of blocks is sufficient, so exchanging timestamps with enumeration
> would work double-spending wise. Permissi
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 4:49 AM, Eric Voskuil via bitcoin-dev
wrote:
> I'm not sure who cooked up this myth about miners gaining advantage over
> those who buy block space by mining empty space, rejecting higher-fee
> transactions, and/or mining "recovery" transactions, but the idea is
> complete
Your statements contradict each other.
This is not a question of whether it is a "huge" cost, but whether there
is an problem of incentive compatibility, which there is not. Miners
incur the opportunity cost of the space that they mine that does not
include the most optimal fees, which is equal in
First time posting here, please be gentle.
I'm doing a research project about blockchain timestamping. There are many
such projects, including the fantastic OpenTimestamps.
All of the projects essentially save some data in a block, and rely on the
block timestamp as a proof that this data existed
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