Re: [bitcoin-dev] Planned Obsolescence

2016-12-18 Thread Btc Drak via bitcoin-dev
Maybe something trivial like lack of Python 3 dependency on older CentOS builds? On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 2:22 AM, Matt Corallo via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > Please do report bugs to https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin . If you > never report them of course they

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Planned Obsolescence

2016-12-18 Thread Matt Corallo via bitcoin-dev
Please do report bugs to https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin . If you never report them of course they won't get fixed. I'm not aware of test suite failures and know a bunch of folks who use CentOS, though not sure how many develop on it. On December 18, 2016 12:07:36 PM PST, Alice Wonder via bi

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Managing block size the same way we do difficulty (aka Block75)

2016-12-18 Thread Tom Harding via bitcoin-dev
James, I share your conviction that miners are the natural gatekeepers of the maximum block size. The trouble I see with Block75 is that linear growth won't work forever. Also, by reading actual and not miners' preferred max blocksize, this proposal is sensitive to randomness in block timing and

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Managing block size the same way we do difficulty (aka Block75)

2016-12-18 Thread James MacWhyte via bitcoin-dev
Hi All, I'm coming late to the party. I like the Block75 proposal. Multiple people have said miners would/could stuff blocks with insincere transactions to increase the block size, but it was never adequately explained what they would gain from this. If there aren't enough legitimate transactions

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Planned Obsolescence

2016-12-18 Thread Chris Riley via bitcoin-dev
I agree that finding the right line is difficult and purposefully crippling (too strong a term?) the software is not necessarily the best way to encourage long term adoption. For example, I ran version 0.3.x from July/August 2010 for several years on a miner without upgrading to anything higher th

[bitcoin-dev] Python test suite failures (was Re: Planned Obsolescence)

2016-12-18 Thread Douglas Roark via bitcoin-dev
On 2016/12/18 12:07, Alice Wonder via bitcoin-dev wrote: > I almost did not update to 0.13.0 because the test suite was failing due > to python errors. How to fix them was posted on bitcointalk. > > 0.13.1 came with new python errors in the test suite. So I just said > fuck it. > > When the test

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Planned Obsolescence

2016-12-18 Thread Alice Wonder via bitcoin-dev
On 12/14/2016 07:38 PM, Juan Garavaglia via bitcoin-dev wrote: For reasons I am unable to determine a significant number of node operators do not upgrade their clients. I almost did not update to 0.13.0 because the test suite was failing due to python errors. How to fix them was posted on bi

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Planned Obsolescence

2016-12-18 Thread Matt Corallo via bitcoin-dev
One thing which hasn't been addressed yet in this thread is developer centralization. Unlike other applications we want to ensure that it's not only possible for users to refuse an upgrade, but easy. While this by no means lessens the retirement that users run up to date software for security re