Re: [Bioc-devel] r+w permissions in release branches

2014-04-30 Thread Michael Lawrence
Just to chime in, we have adopted the same snapshot policy within Genentech; we might actually write something up on our policies, since we've invested a lot of thought into them. We're also set to release our repository management system (GRAN) on github for public consumption. It was written by

Re: [Bioc-devel] r+w permissions in release branches

2014-04-30 Thread Kasper Daniel Hansen
Sounds great. Kasper On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Martin Morgan wrote: > On 04/30/2014 05:30 PM, Kasper Daniel Hansen wrote: > >> Let me add my opinion: we do not have perfect (easy) reproducibility with >> Bioc because we can only (easily) download the tar ball corresponding to >> the lat

Re: [Bioc-devel] r+w permissions in release branches

2014-04-30 Thread Martin Morgan
On 04/30/2014 05:30 PM, Kasper Daniel Hansen wrote: Let me add my opinion: we do not have perfect (easy) reproducibility with Bioc because we can only (easily) download the tar ball corresponding to the latest commit in a given branch. I am ok with that. What I (and Alejandro) is concerned abou

Re: [Bioc-devel] r+w permissions in release branches

2014-04-30 Thread Kasper Daniel Hansen
Let me add my opinion: we do not have perfect (easy) reproducibility with Bioc because we can only (easily) download the tar ball corresponding to the latest commit in a given branch. I am ok with that. What I (and Alejandro) is concerned about is the inability to install even that. There is a c

Re: [Bioc-devel] r+w permissions in release branches

2014-04-25 Thread Hervé Pagès
Hi, See the latest software builds for BioC 2.13: http://bioconductor.org/checkResults/2.13/bioc-20140405/ The number of packages that needed to be installed on the build system in order to build and check the 750 BioC software packages is displayed in the right-most column of the top table:

Re: [Bioc-devel] r+w permissions in release branches

2014-04-24 Thread Steve Lianoglou
Hi all, Just saw this tangentially related link to "packrat" which seems something analogous to a virtualenv (of sorts) for R by the Rstudio folks, which I thought might be useful It actually doesn't solve anybody's problem here, but as I said ... tangential :-) http://rstudio.github.io/packrat/

Re: [Bioc-devel] r+w permissions in release branches

2014-04-24 Thread Wolfgang Huber
Hi Kasper you are right, I had misunderstood the problem. In that case I agree with Martin that the problem resolves into components that are either intractable, already addressed by deprecation policies, or not very important. Sorry for the noise. Wolfgang On 24 Apr 2014, at 15:18, Ka

Re: [Bioc-devel] r+w permissions in release branches

2014-04-24 Thread Kasper Daniel Hansen
Wolfgang, Alejandro did not have a problem with the current release, but with the most recent prior release. His issue is precisely because it is no longer the current (stable) release. Kasper On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Wolfgang Huber wrote: > Hi Martin > to come back to the original t

Re: [Bioc-devel] r+w permissions in release branches

2014-04-24 Thread Wolfgang Huber
Hi Martin to come back to the original trigger for this thread: it was not concerns for reproducibility, but the fact that a Bioc package in the current release stopped working because a CRAN package has changed in the meanwhile. What’s the most practical solution to this specific problem?

Re: [Bioc-devel] r+w permissions in release branches

2014-04-23 Thread Martin Morgan
On 04/22/2014 09:47 AM, Kasper Daniel Hansen wrote: I think we should have a CRAN snapshot (or a subset of CRAN used in Bioc) inside each Bioc release; I don't know how hard that is to manage from a technical point of view. I followed this thread with some interest. It would be surprisingly ch

Re: [Bioc-devel] r+w permissions in release branches

2014-04-22 Thread Kasper Daniel Hansen
I think we should have a CRAN snapshot (or a subset of CRAN used in Bioc) inside each Bioc release; I don't know how hard that is to manage from a technical point of view. Best, Kasper On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Julian Gehring wrote: > Hi, > > For most problems discussed here, it seems th

Re: [Bioc-devel] r+w permissions in release branches

2014-04-22 Thread Julian Gehring
Hi, For most problems discussed here, it seems that having a fixed version of package is sufficient rather than a specific version. If the idea of a snapshot with each bioc release would work (which still means one version per package), so would requiring that version within the package (one

Re: [Bioc-devel] r+w permissions in release branches

2014-04-22 Thread Wolfgang Huber
Hi Julian what if two Bioc packages require different version of the ‘same’ CRAN package? AfaIu, the infrastructure is not designed to deal with multiple versions of a package. Nor would I as a user expect to have less-than-the-most recent versions of CRAN packages in my library just because so

Re: [Bioc-devel] r+w permissions in release branches

2014-04-22 Thread Julian Gehring
Hi, For a "more general solution" one could think of specifying the version of critical packages in the 'description' file and having a 'biocLite' function that installs the specific version from CRAN. See e.g. the 'devtools::install_version' function for installing older packages from the C

Re: [Bioc-devel] r+w permissions in release branches

2014-04-22 Thread Alejandro Reyes
Hi Andrej, Yes, that would help, that would be also a solution for my case, installing an old version of the cran package (stamod in my case) However, I don't know if this could be a "general solution for all users" since when installing a package via biocLite, the latest version of the cran

Re: [Bioc-devel] r+w permissions in release branches

2014-04-22 Thread Andrzej Oleś
Dear Kasper, regarding your issue with R-2.15: I was wondering whether using an older version of Rcpp from http://cran.r-project.org/src/contrib/Archive/Rcpp/ would help? Cheers, Andrzej On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Kasper Daniel Hansen wrote: > This is because commits to this branch of Bio

Re: [Bioc-devel] r+w permissions in release branches

2014-04-22 Thread Kasper Daniel Hansen
This is because commits to this branch of Bioconductor has been disabled and it is intentional. But it raises the larger question, recently touched upon in a lengthy thread on R-devel, on whether this is a good state of affairs for Bioconductor. Specifically the issue has to do with dependency of