Re: return address for failed DNSSEC validation

2010-03-11 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 11.03.10 08:54, Gilles Massen wrote: > Obviously there are parallels to NXDOMAIN rewriting. However, the major > difference I see is that NXDOMAIN is a clear message, known by the OSs > and applications, that has basically one meaning. SERVFAIL is more like > 'didn't work. go figure.' And the go

Re: return address for failed DNSSEC validation

2010-03-11 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <4b98a1a6.9070...@restena.lu>, Gilles Massen writes: > Mark, Mat, > > Mat wrote: > > End users will get confused by this, but then there are plenty of > > other possibilities with and without DNS they may get confused about. > > I think providing help to them should be dealt with by th

Re: return address for failed DNSSEC validation

2010-03-11 Thread Alan Clegg
Gilles Massen wrote: > As soon as applications (or local stub resolvers) are validating, that > would be the place to generate a "user compatible" error. But in the > best case this will take years. In the mean term we are stuck with dummy > users, and ISPs that might want to enable validation, bu

Re: dnsquery for Solaris

2010-03-11 Thread Stacey Jonathan Marshall
On 03/10/10 11:59, Chris Thompson wrote: On Mar 10 2010, Sam Wilson wrote: In article , wrote: dig was added to Solaris 9. It is not native to Solaris 8 or older. That would explain why it's only where Chris found it on some of our range of Solarises (vintage or only slightly worn). Yes

Re: return address for failed DNSSEC validation

2010-03-11 Thread Gilles Massen
Alan, Alan Clegg wrote: > > The problem is that to correctly protect non-DNSSEC aware applications, > a return code had to be chosen that even the lowliest of clients would > understand as "STOP! YOU MUST NOT USE THIS INFORMATION" to which > SERVFAIL is the only correct response. Any other retu

Re: return address for failed DNSSEC validation

2010-03-11 Thread Gilles Massen
Mark Andrews wrote: >> Obviously there are parallels to NXDOMAIN rewriting. However, the major >> difference I see is that NXDOMAIN is a clear message, known by the OSs >> and applications, that has basically one meaning. SERVFAIL is more like >> 'didn't work. go figure.' And the good thing is tha

Split View DNS

2010-03-11 Thread Jason Gates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 When using split view, can one point to the same file in both views? example: view "blah-internal" { match-clients { internal-users; }; zone "blah.org" in { type slave; file "/var/named/slave/blah.org"; masters { ipaddress; }; }; zone "10.10.10.in-a

RE: Split View DNS

2010-03-11 Thread Todd Snyder
Yes, assuming you want them to both have the same zone data. We use a naming convention so we know when we're sharing a file. Each view gets their zonefiles with "-viewname" (ie: example.com-internal) appended. Common zones get "-common". This keeps us from modifying the wrong file, and lets us

RE: Split View DNS

2010-03-11 Thread Christopher Howard
I tried this and noticed that the first view will IXFR the file from the master, then the second view will try to IXFR and fail because the file has already been updated. Then the second view does a complete AXFR. I ended up with errors in the log file. With busy DDNS zones the errors were very

Re: Split View DNS

2010-03-11 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 11.03.10 10:06, Jason Gates wrote: > When using split view, can one point to the same file in both views? for master zones, yes, but you will have to reload it in all views explicitly (I think that server reload should take care of that) for slave zones, I'm afraid it's not possible. You will

RE: Split View DNS

2010-03-11 Thread Lightner, Jeff
I too found it best to have them be separate even if they contain the same data. For me I had an internal and external view - the external was my original zone so I made that my external view then simply prepended "internal-" to the zone file name in the internal view. That way all my intenal vi

Re: recursion

2010-03-11 Thread ic.nssip
Hi Kevin, I followed your advice and I explicitly added: recursion yes; allow-recursion { custnets; }; I'm using MRTG for interface bandwidth monitoring and Smokeping for time response on queries and all look the same as before. So, so far so good! Thank you! Julian - Original Message

Re: Split View DNS

2010-03-11 Thread Jay Ford
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 11.03.10 10:06, Jason Gates wrote: When using split view, can one point to the same file in both views? for master zones, yes, but you will have to reload it in all views explicitly (I think that server reload should take care of that) Ri

Re: dynamic update in IPv6 environment

2010-03-11 Thread Alan Clegg
aihua zhang wrote: [...] > the BIND version is BIND-9.6.1,my install process is :./configure;make > ;make install, is there any wrong with my install or others problem ? > thanks! Dynamic updates work correctly in an IPv6 environment to the best of my knowledge, however, nsupdate does not at th

rndc

2010-03-11 Thread ic.nssip
I had some problems with versions prior 9.7.0, when the response time dramatically increased for hours after two or 3 days after cache reached the maximum size in the memory. I used to restart named process and everything was good for few days again. I have 9.7.0 up for the last week and it didn

Re: return address for failed DNSSEC validation

2010-03-11 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <4b98fd2d.5080...@restena.lu>, Gilles Massen writes: > Mark Andrews wrote: > > >> Obviously there are parallels to NXDOMAIN rewriting. However, the major > >> difference I see is that NXDOMAIN is a clear message, known by the OSs > >> and applications, that has basically one meaning. S

bind 9.6.1, DLV and sha256?

2010-03-11 Thread Paul Wouters
Hi, What will happen to people who have configured bind 9.6.1 to do DNSSEC and DLV processing, when SHA256 hashes start appearing? Will it go to insecure or bogus? Do we have a problem in a few days? Paul ___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists

Re: bind 9.6.1, DLV and sha256?

2010-03-11 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Paul Wout ers writes: > Hi, > > What will happen to people who have configured bind 9.6.1 to do > DNSSEC and DLV processing, when SHA256 hashes start appearing? > > Will it go to insecure or bogus? Insecure. The following change was part of BIND 9.6.1. 2579. [bug] DNSS

Reminder about DLV, BIND 9.6.0 and BIND 9.6.0-P1

2010-03-11 Thread Mark Andrews
DLV records for TLD's signed using RASSHA256 (and RSASHA512) will be added DLV.ISC.ORG in the next few days. BIND 9.6.0 and BIND 9.6.0-P1 do not correctly handle these records and it is recommended that you upgrade to BIND 9.6.1 or later. This was original

Re: dynamic update in IPv6 environment

2010-03-11 Thread Kevin Darcy
Some suggestions: 1) always use "-d" with nsupdate, otherwise you get almost no indication of what it's doing "under the covers" 2) look in your query logs to see what queries nsupdate is generating 3) when you say "change [...] to IPv6 environment", am I to understand that you're actually bringing

Re: return address for failed DNSSEC validation

2010-03-11 Thread Kevin Darcy
On 3/11/2010 2:54 AM, Gilles Massen wrote: Mark, Mat, Mat wrote: End users will get confused by this, but then there are plenty of other possibilities with and without DNS they may get confused about. I think providing help to them should be dealt with by the OS instead of bloating DNS. Upo

Re: Split View DNS

2010-03-11 Thread Mark Andrews
Yes and no. Yes for static masters. No for everything else, i.e. slaves, dynamic masters, stubs. Mark - Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org ___ bind-users m

Re: rndc

2010-03-11 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , "ic.nssip" writ es: > I had some problems with versions prior 9.7.0, when the response time = > dramatically increased for hours after two or 3 days after cache reached = > the maximum size in the memory. I used to restart named process and = > everything was good for few days again.

Re: return address for failed DNSSEC validation

2010-03-11 Thread Barry Margolin
In article , Mark Andrews wrote: > No. It's I've tried real hard to get you a answer which is not a > forgery but I can't. Not really. It's "I've tried real hard to get you an answer that I can *tell* is not a forgery, but I can't." When validation fails, which is really more likely, that

Re: return address for failed DNSSEC validation

2010-03-11 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Barry Mar golin writes: > In article , > Mark Andrews wrote: > > > No. It's I've tried real hard to get you a answer which is not a > > forgery but I can't. > > Not really. It's "I've tried real hard to get you an answer that I can > *tell* is not a forgery, but I can't." When

Re: return address for failed DNSSEC validation

2010-03-11 Thread Gilles Massen
Kevin Darcy wrote: > The fundamental requirement is that the requestor needs to know that > their query FAILED. When you send back a "helpful", answerful response > for a failure, either under NXDOMAIN redirection or your proposal, then > you essentially deceive the client and confuse any troubles