Re: Server crash on receiving query

> On 6. 11. 2024, at 16:22, Mike Hodson wrote: > > Why is the bind project using such a library that seems to be perennially > unstable? You are absolutely and utterly wrong in your assessment. Ondřej -- Ondřej Surý (He/Him) ond...@isc.org My working hours and your working hours may be diffe

Re: Server crash on receiving query

On 06. 11. 24 16:22, Mike Hodson wrote: On Wed, Nov 6, 2024, 06:19 Ondřej Surý > wrote: Since the libuv bug is in the open, I’ll link it here as well: https://github.com/libuv/libuv/issues/4594 I’m in contact w

Re: Server crash on receiving query

On Wed, Nov 6, 2024, 06:19 Ondřej Surý wrote: > Since the libuv bug is in the open, I’ll link it here as well: > https://github.com/libuv/libuv/issues/4594 > > I’m in contact with Apple folks, and they have all the information they > need now. > I find it funny that the one bug I ever have had i

Re: Server crash on receiving query

Since the libuv bug is in the open, I’ll link it here as well: https://github.com/libuv/libuv/issues/4594 I’m in contact with Apple folks, and they have all the information they need now. Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him) My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do n

Re: Server crash on receiving query

> On 2 Nov 2024, at 3:14 am, Scott Bradner wrote: > > I have the same problem with bind version 9.20.3 (on both Sonoma & Sequoia > > the Sonoma attempt was on a machine that I did a clean install on Sonoma on > and > the only things on the machine were what came with the install, homebrew & >

Re: Server crash on receiving query

Can we **please** stop discussing (suspected) security issue in this or any other public fora? Apple needs to investigate this and while they do that we should not provide exploits or hints how to develop them. If you are concerned please contact Apple. Thank you. Petr Špaček Internet System

Re: Server crash on receiving query

thanks for figuring this out Scott > On Nov 4, 2024, at 11:35 AM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > I spent last two hours crashing my computer while bisecting the issue, > and you would not have guessed the commit that causes this: > > commit f063ee276e4a7f6cfccbefa969e8db8df952348b > Author: Ondřej Su

Re: Server crash on receiving query

I spent last two hours crashing my computer while bisecting the issue, and you would not have guessed the commit that causes this: commit f063ee276e4a7f6cfccbefa969e8db8df952348b Author: Ondřej Surý Date: 2022-05-18 14:10:58 +0200 Use libuv CFLAGS and LIBS when checking for features W

Re: Server crash on receiving query

for what its worth - I am NOT framing this as a BIND 9 fault as in BIND should change what it is doing but BIND 9 is doing something that Apple does not like and it would help Apple to know what that is Scott > On Nov 4, 2024, at 9:59 AM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > Please stop framing this as t

Re: Server crash on receiving query

Please stop framing this as this is BIND 9 fault. I’ll report this to Apple as I can reproduce this on my machine too on unprivileged account. Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him) My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside your normal

Re: Server crash on receiving query

tried again after the crash and it now does one query & crashes on the 2nd sigh Scott > On Nov 4, 2024, at 9:32 AM, Scott Bradner wrote: > > I un-installed Little Snitch (and am not using the macOS firewall) and it > did change things - now the first quest from another computer caused the > r

Re: Server crash on receiving query

I un-installed Little Snitch (and am not using the macOS firewall) and it did change things - now the first quest from another computer caused the reboot :-( Scott > On Nov 4, 2024, at 9:24 AM, Anand Buddhdev wrote: > > On 04/11/2024 15:14, Scott Bradner wrote: > > Hi Scott, > > I doubt that

Re: Server crash on receiving query

On 04/11/2024 15:14, Scott Bradner wrote: Hi Scott, I doubt that BIND is using any special code to cause the crash. I am aware that Apple has introduced some new code around firewalling in macOS 15. In fact, before macOS 15.1, there was a serious issue with it, that broke long-running SSH con

Re: Server crash on receiving query

does named so something in buffering previous queries that would trigger a different process on the third query? (seems strange that its reboot from another computer is repeatable on the 3rd query for the same site?) note that many queries from another computer are just fine as long as its not f

Re: Server crash on receiving query

> maybe named is using some special system call Named is not using anything special. All the stuff is just libraries and standard API. Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him) My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside your normal workin

Re: Server crash on receiving query

it sure would help when taking the issue to apple to have some idea what thing in named is causing the (should not be possible) reboot maybe named is using some special system call Scott > On Nov 4, 2024, at 9:07 AM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > As Mark said - you need to take this to Apple. It coul

Re: Server crash on receiving query

As Mark said - you need to take this to Apple. It could be kernel bug, it could be a compiler bug. Userspace program crashing the hardware is pretty bad, but there’s nothing we can do on our side. Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him) My working hours and your working hours may be different. Ple

Re: Server crash on receiving query

more observations M1 Mac Mini MacOS Sequoia 15.1 bind 9.20.3 installed by homebrew - as installed (no tweaking of named.conf or anything else) - started using "sudo brew services start bind" query from another computer dig @[ipaddress] cnn.com first two times get the correct re

Re: Server crash on receiving query

> On 25 Oct 2024, at 02:15, Mark Andrews wrote: > > Take your machine to Apple. You have a hardware fault or a kernel security > bug. A user application should not be able to make an operating system crash. That’s interesting. I have heard of a similar problem but with a different OS versi

Re: Server crash on receiving query

I have the same problem with bind version 9.20.3 (on both Sonoma & Sequoia the Sonoma attempt was on a machine that I did a clean install on Sonoma on and the only things on the machine were what came with the install, homebrew & brew install bind instant reboot when trying "dig @127.0.0.1 can.

Re: Server crash on receiving query

Take your machine to Apple. You have a hardware fault or a kernel security bug. A user application should not be able to make an operating system crash. Mark > On 24 Oct 2024, at 17:20, James L. Brown via bind-users > wrote: > > For almost two weeks my instance of named has cause a reboot o