Re: dig +norecurse behaviour changed with 9.16.33

2022-12-14 Thread Ondřej Surý
l-response" option is not the one controlling whether or not both CNAME and A are turned by dig, right ? Thanks, Veronique From: Ondřej Surý Sent: Monday, October 31, 2022 5:30 PM To: BIND users Cc: Veronique Lefebure Subject: Re: dig +norecurse behaviour changed with 9.16.33   Since we

Re: dig +norecurse behaviour changed with 9.16.33

2022-12-14 Thread Veronique Lefebure
onday, October 31, 2022 5:30 PM To: BIND users Cc: Veronique Lefebure Subject: Re: dig +norecurse behaviour changed with 9.16.33 Since we have already established that this is not a **dig** issue, you might want to look at the `minimal-responses` option. The default has changed from `no` to `no-auth-rec

Re: dig +norecurse behaviour changed with 9.16.33

2022-11-01 Thread Petr Menšík
It seems to me this is a very similar question to previous thread named: Classless reverse zones CNAME and PTR resolution issue When your query does not request recursion then CNAME is not followed to other zones by authoritative server. For iterative recursive servers, be it bind9, unbound or

Re: dig +norecurse behaviour changed with 9.16.33

2022-10-31 Thread Ondřej Surý
Since we have already established that this is not a **dig** issue, you might want to look at the `minimal-responses` option. The default has changed from `no` to `no-auth-recursive` in 9.12.0 Anyway, the 9.16.0 is doing the right thing because there's a zone cut between the two names, any resolv

Re: dig +norecurse behaviour changed with 9.16.33

2022-10-28 Thread Nick Tait via bind-users
Hi Veronique. I'm not an expert, but to me the 9.16 behaviour is what I would expect to happen, based on: * When you issue the non-recursive query for "spectrum.cern.ch", it is answered from the "cern.ch" zone, which only knows the CNAME (returned in the ANSWER section) and the NS recor

Re: dig +norecurse behaviour changed with 9.16.33

2022-10-27 Thread Greg Choules via bind-users
Hi Veronique. As Petr said, please don't send a pcap. This is getting beyond the scope of the list and into proper support territory. For which I would recommend that CERN pay ISC for professional support services. Regarding your external example, I get this: %dig @192.65.187.5 foundservices.cern.

Re: dig +norecurse behaviour changed with 9.16.33

2022-10-27 Thread Bob McDonald
Are the zones cern.ch and spectrum-lb.cern.ch on the same authoritative sDNS server? -- Visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list ISC funds the development of this software with paid support subscriptions. Contact us at https://www.isc.org/contact/ fo

Re: dig +norecurse behaviour changed with 9.16.33

2022-10-27 Thread Petr Špaček
Hello, please see answer in-line: On 27. 10. 22 14:28, Veronique Lefebure wrote: (*) On an external DNS server you can try with the following similar case: Running DiG 9.11.21 on a linux client ext-dns-1 (192.65.187.5) runs BIND9.16: dig @ext-dns-1 foundservices.cern.ch | grep flags | grep ANS

Re: dig +norecurse behaviour changed with 9.16.33

2022-10-27 Thread Veronique Lefebure
Well, So here a bit more details. Sorry, I cannot take an example with a DNS server accessible to you (*) because they have all been upgraded to 9.16. The .cern.ch contains: spectrum-lb IN NS ip-dns-1.cern.ch. spectrum-lb IN NS ip-dns-2.cern.ch. spectrum IN CNAME spectrum-lb.cern.ch. an

Re: dig +norecurse behaviour changed with 9.16.33

2022-10-27 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 27.10.22 09:08, Veronique Lefebure wrote: yes, here is a concrete example: # ip-dns-1 runs BIND 9.16.33: dig @ip-dns-1 spectrum.cern.ch +short +norecurse spectrum-lb.cern.ch. <- Here we get only the CNAME # ip-dns-0 runs BIND 9.11: dig @ip-dns-0 spectrum.cern.ch +short +n

Re: dig +norecurse behaviour changed with 9.16.33

2022-10-27 Thread Greg Choules via bind-users
Hi Veronique. No, we cannot easily reproduce this behaviour because we have no knowledge of the configs of either of those servers, the details of the zones you have configured, the contents of those zones or of the system on which you are running the dig command. As I said, we need to see everyth

Re: dig +norecurse behaviour changed with 9.16.33

2022-10-27 Thread Veronique Lefebure
Hi all, yes, here is a concrete example: # ip-dns-1 runs BIND 9.16.33: dig @ip-dns-1 spectrum.cern.ch +short +norecurse spectrum-lb.cern.ch. <- Here we get only the CNAME # ip-dns-0 runs BIND 9.11: dig @ip-dns-0 spectrum.cern.ch +short +norecurse spectrum-lb.cern.ch. xxx

Re: dig +norecurse behaviour changed with 9.16.33

2022-10-26 Thread Ondřej Surý
Or cache snooping behaves differently between two (or multiple) queries. That’s why questions like this should not imply where the problem is but rather describe what can be seen (possibly also on the wire). Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him) My working hours and your working hours may be dif

Re: dig +norecurse behaviour changed with 9.16.33

2022-10-26 Thread Jan-Piet Mens via bind-users
The change is that with 9.16, if the requested name is a CNAME, only the CNAME value is returned by dig, while with 9.11 dig would return both the CNAME value and the IP of the CNAME. as others have said, this needs more details, but I wonder whether you might now be querying a server which has

Re: dig +norecurse behaviour changed with 9.16.33

2022-10-26 Thread Greg Choules via bind-users
Hi Veronique. As other people have said, more details please. To have a complete picture of what is going on, not only would we need to know what your dig tests look like, but also where dig is sending its queries and how that DNS server is configured. You can tell dig to send queries anywhere, u

RE: dig +norecurse behaviour changed with 9.16.33

2022-10-26 Thread Bob McDonald
For both versions of bind, please submit the actual dig command and the complete results received. That will make diagnosing this issue MUCH easier. Regards, Bob -- Visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list ISC funds the development of this software

Re: dig +norecurse behaviour changed with 9.16.33

2022-10-26 Thread Andrew Latham
I am unable to reproduce this. Please share some examples like this: dig +norecurse @216.239.34.110 www.lathama.org ``` ; <<>> DiG 9.11.5-P4-5.1+deb10u8-Debian <<>> +norecurse @216.239.34.110 www.lathama.org ; (1 server found) ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY,

Re: dig +norecurse behaviour changed with 9.16.33

2022-10-26 Thread Ondřej Surý
You need to be more specific with real examples. Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him) My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside your normal working hours. > On 26. 10. 2022, at 17:41, Veronique Lefebure > wrote: > >  > Hi, > >