Re: DNSSEC and forward zones

2011-11-02 Thread Chris Thompson
On Nov 2 2011, Jan-Piet Mens wrote: Note, the new .XXX TLD is included in that list. Does that mean it is or isn't safe for work? ;-) It depends on whether the XXX TLD acquires a signed delegation or not. (Presumably it should, as you wouldn't want to get the *wrong* porn ...) -- Chris Tho

Re: DNSSEC and forward zones

2011-11-02 Thread Bill Owens
On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 10:02:45AM -0400, wbr...@e1b.org wrote: > But it does provide some alternatives: > > .intranet > .internal > .private > .corp > .home > .lan > > But can we guarantee that they won't be approved as new public TLDs per > the new rules adopted this summer where anything can

Re: DNSSEC and forward zones

2011-11-02 Thread WBrown
Bill Owens wrote on 11/02/2011 09:26:07 AM: > I happened to be looking for some other details on mDNS yesterday > and noticed that the current draft version of the spec reserves .local: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-cheshire-dnsext-multicastdns-14 >This document specifies that the DN

Re: DNSSEC and forward zones

2011-11-02 Thread Jan-Piet Mens
> Note, the new .XXX TLD is included in that list. Does that mean it is or isn't safe for work? ;-) -JP ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.i

Re: DNSSEC and forward zones

2011-11-02 Thread Bill Owens
On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 08:45:31AM -0400, wbr...@e1b.org wrote: > Lyle wrote on 11/01/2011 04:19:18 PM: > > > Again, this has a disadvantage if they ever decide to make .internal a > > real internet domain name and some people frown upon this practice. Be > > sure you know what can go wrong. >

Re: DNSSEC and forward zones

2011-11-02 Thread /dev/rob0
On Wednesday 02 November 2011 08:00:55 Jan-Piet Mens wrote: > > Is there an IETF/ICANN reserved TLD for internal use? I've seen > > plenty of .loc and .local, but I haven't seen an RFC reserving .local is used in MDNS, but AFAIK the RFC is still a draft. > > it. RFC 2606 reserves .example, .inv

Re: DNSSEC and forward zones

2011-11-02 Thread Jan-Piet Mens
> Is there an IETF/ICANN reserved TLD for internal use? I've seen plenty of > .loc and .local, but I haven't seen an RFC reserving it. RFC 2606 > reserves .example, .invalid, .localhost and .test but these don't seem > approriate. Not IETF/ICANN reserved, but ISO 3166 [1] reserves the follow

Re: DNSSEC and forward zones

2011-11-02 Thread WBrown
Lyle wrote on 11/01/2011 04:19:18 PM: > Again, this has a disadvantage if they ever decide to make .internal a > real internet domain name and some people frown upon this practice. Be > sure you know what can go wrong. Is there an IETF/ICANN reserved TLD for internal use? I've seen plenty of

Re: DNSSEC and forward zones

2011-11-01 Thread Scott Morizot
On 1 Nov 2011 at 20:02, Phil Mayers wrote: > On 11/01/2011 06:34 PM, Scott Morizot wrote: > > > Alternatively, you can sign 'policydomain.internal' and configure its key > > as one of the trust anchors on the validating name servers. The order of > > validation is, if I recall correctly, locally

Re: DNSSEC and forward zones

2011-11-01 Thread Lyle Giese
On 11/1/2011 3:02 PM, Phil Mayers wrote: On 11/01/2011 06:34 PM, Scott Morizot wrote: Alternatively, you can sign 'policydomain.internal' and configure its key as one of the trust anchors on the validating name servers. The order of validation is, if I recall correctly, locally configured trust

Re: DNSSEC and forward zones

2011-11-01 Thread Lyle Giese
On 11/1/2011 3:00 PM, Phil Mayers wrote: On 11/01/2011 06:24 PM, Lyle Giese wrote: A work-around (and it has some side effects and could be undesirable, just be aware of the side effects of doing this) is to declare .internal as a master zone in your DNS servers and then delegate policydomain.i

Re: DNSSEC and forward zones

2011-11-01 Thread Phil Mayers
On 11/01/2011 06:34 PM, Scott Morizot wrote: Alternatively, you can sign 'policydomain.internal' and configure its key as one of the trust anchors on the validating name servers. The order of validation is, if I recall correctly, locally configured trust anchors, then chain of trust from root, a

Re: DNSSEC and forward zones

2011-11-01 Thread Phil Mayers
On 11/01/2011 06:24 PM, Lyle Giese wrote: A work-around (and it has some side effects and could be undesirable, just be aware of the side effects of doing this) is to declare .internal as a master zone in your DNS servers and then delegate policydomain.internal to your Windows AD servers in your

RE: DNSSEC and forward zones

2011-11-01 Thread Scott Morizot
On 1 Nov 2011 at 18:12, vinny_abe...@dell.com wrote: > Thanks, however I can't control the domain in question > unfortunately. It is what it is. We have to work with it. I totally > understand why this doesn't work and actually agree with the design, > however I just don't have a workaround or way

Re: DNSSEC and forward zones

2011-11-01 Thread Lyle Giese
On 11/1/2011 11:23 AM, Phil Mayers wrote: On 01/11/11 16:14, vinny_abe...@dell.com wrote: resolution fail since NXDOMAIN is the valid answer... done, end of story. I thought the forwarder type would bypass this but apparently I am wrong. Is there some other way to handle this for non-existent d

RE: DNSSEC and forward zones

2011-11-01 Thread Vinny_Abello
s@lists.isc.org Subject: Re: DNSSEC and forward zones On 01/11/11 16:14, vinny_abe...@dell.com wrote: > resolution fail since NXDOMAIN is the valid answer... done, end of > story. I thought the forwarder type would bypass this but apparently > I am wrong. Is there some other way to hand

Re: DNSSEC and forward zones

2011-11-01 Thread Phil Mayers
On 01/11/11 16:14, vinny_abe...@dell.com wrote: resolution fail since NXDOMAIN is the valid answer... done, end of story. I thought the forwarder type would bypass this but apparently I am wrong. Is there some other way to handle this for non-existent domains just for testing purposes? Don't d