Re: Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-04 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <65a8901490745bf21a8ec6c58b161...@ausics.net>, Noel Butler writes: > > and use modern version of bind and RRL. Definitely use a modern version of BIND. I don't know how often we get bug reports against stuffed we fixed years ago even from our support customers. If you are on a Linux

Re: Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-04 Thread Noel Butler
On 05/09/2015 11:41, Mike Hoskins (michoski) wrote: Actually, PIX had issues... I can attest to that, having administered several Cisco-based networks including PIX years before I was "a Cisco The biggest issues we really saw with PIX protected networks was in early 2000's, it used to bit

Re: Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-04 Thread Noel Butler
On 05/09/2015 05:00, Leandro wrote: > Reindl , I agree with you. > One Firewall should be enough. > So, what you consider this firewall should do ? > In my opinion: > Block requests coming from a blacklist (Who will generate this list ?) > Block denial of service requests. It needs to measure

Re: Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-04 Thread Mike Hoskins (michoski)
On 9/4/15, 9:29 PM, "bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org on behalf of Noel Butler" wrote: >On 05/09/2015 04:49, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> mostly people who are throwing as much as possible appliances and >> firewalls in front of their machines doing that because missing >> knowledge > >and falling

Re: Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-04 Thread Noel Butler
On 05/09/2015 04:49, Reindl Harald wrote: mostly people who are throwing as much as possible appliances and firewalls in front of their machines doing that because missing knowledge and falling for some salesman's BS, the moment they sniff you have no idea, they rub their hands together think

Re: Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-04 Thread Mark Andrews
There are stupid firewalls that drop DNS queries with the last reserved bit set. This should be ignored by the nameserver. There are stupid firewalls that drop DNS queries with DO=1. This breaks DNSSEC. Most of these are gone now but some still exist. They took years to effectively remove from

Re: Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-04 Thread /dev/rob0
On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 05:27:18PM +, Mike Hoskins (michoski) wrote: > On 9/4/15, 1:12 PM, "bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org on behalf > of /dev/rob0" r...@gmx.co.uk> wrote: > > >On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 11:02:23PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> Am 03.09.2015 um 22:59 schrieb Robert Mosk

Re: Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-04 Thread John Miller
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 3:29 PM, wrote: >> One Firewall should be enough. >> So, what you consider this firewall should do ? >> In my opinion: >> Block requests coming from a blacklist (Who will generate this list ?) >> Block denial of service requests. It needs to measure the requests rate >> to

Re: Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-04 Thread sthaug
> One Firewall should be enough. > So, what you consider this firewall should do ? > In my opinion: > Block requests coming from a blacklist (Who will generate this list ?) > Block denial of service requests. It needs to measure the requests rate > to detects when is under attack. > Block port sca

Re: Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-04 Thread Leandro
Reindl , I agree with you. One Firewall should be enough. So, what you consider this firewall should do ? In my opinion: Block requests coming from a blacklist (Who will generate this list ?) Block denial of service requests. It needs to measure the requests rate to detects when is under attack.

Re: Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.09.2015 um 20:41 schrieb Leandro: I think that regarding security issues, is better to prevent as much as possible. Here we have two different opinions: People that agree to use firewall and people against (or arguing that is not necessary): I would like to hear both and then decide. If

Re: Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-04 Thread Leandro
I think that regarding security issues, is better to prevent as much as possible. Here we have two different opinions: People that agree to use firewall and people against (or arguing that is not necessary): I would like to hear both and then decide. If we share our points maybe can get a bet

Re: Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-04 Thread Mike Hoskins (michoski)
On 9/4/15, 1:12 PM, "bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org on behalf of /dev/rob0" wrote: >On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 11:02:23PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 03.09.2015 um 22:59 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: >> >On 09/03/2015 04:35 PM, Leandro wrote: >> >>Ok ... >> >>I got BIND 9.10.2-P3 working. >> >

Re: Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-04 Thread /dev/rob0
On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 11:02:23PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 03.09.2015 um 22:59 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: > >On 09/03/2015 04:35 PM, Leandro wrote: > >>Ok ... > >>I got BIND 9.10.2-P3 working. > >>I compiled with > >> > >>./configure --with-openssl --enable-threads --with-libxml2 > >>--wit

Re: Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.09.2015 um 23:16 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: On 09/03/2015 05:02 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 03.09.2015 um 22:59 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: On 09/03/2015 04:35 PM, Leandro wrote: Ok ... I got BIND 9.10.2-P3 working. I compiled with ./configure --with-openssl --enable-threads --with-lib

Re: Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-03 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 09/03/2015 05:02 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 03.09.2015 um 22:59 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: On 09/03/2015 04:35 PM, Leandro wrote: Ok ... I got BIND 9.10.2-P3 working. I compiled with ./configure --with-openssl --enable-threads --with-libxml2 --with-libjson make make install Json sta

Re: Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.09.2015 um 22:59 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: On 09/03/2015 04:35 PM, Leandro wrote: Ok ... I got BIND 9.10.2-P3 working. I compiled with ./configure --with-openssl --enable-threads --with-libxml2 --with-libjson make make install Json statistics channel is working and chroot is not longe

Re: Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-03 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 09/03/2015 04:35 PM, Leandro wrote: Ok ... I got BIND 9.10.2-P3 working. I compiled with ./configure --with-openssl --enable-threads --with-libxml2 --with-libjson make make install Json statistics channel is working and chroot is not longer mandatory. But do make sure you have selinux e

Re: Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-03 Thread Leandro
Ok ... I got BIND 9.10.2-P3 working. I compiled with ./configure --with-openssl --enable-threads --with-libxml2 --with-libjson make make install Json statistics channel is working and chroot is not longer mandatory. Im happy. Thanks! Leandro. On 03/09/15 15:47, Mike Hoskins (michoski) wrote

Re: Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-03 Thread Mike Hoskins (michoski)
Few points for clarification: With rhel/centos you're not getting the major version as reported. You need to look at the changlog for the package to see what fixes/features have been backported. That effort including associated QA is part of what you're paying for with rhel or getting for free a

Re: Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-03 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 09/03/2015 01:45 PM, Leandro wrote: Dear All: While installing bind still have not clear some issues: Im using Centos 6.6 since Im not very comfortable with Centos7 yet. My final goal is to get an updated and stable version and also use json format for the statistics channel. 1) Some bin

Re: Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-03 Thread Lyle Giese
On 9/3/2015 12:53 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 03.09.2015 um 19:45 schrieb Leandro: Dear All: While installing bind still have not clear some issues: Im using Centos 6.6 since Im not very comfortable with Centos7 yet. My final goal is to get an updated and stable version and also use json form

Re: Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.09.2015 um 19:45 schrieb Leandro: Dear All: While installing bind still have not clear some issues: Im using Centos 6.6 since Im not very comfortable with Centos7 yet. My final goal is to get an updated and stable version and also use json format for the statistics channel. 1) Some bind

Installing bind is not very clear for me

2015-09-03 Thread Leandro
Dear All: While installing bind still have not clear some issues: Im using Centos 6.6 since Im not very comfortable with Centos7 yet. My final goal is to get an updated and stable version and also use json format for the statistics channel. 1) Some bind users recommended to get at least a 9.10