Re: bind-users Digest, Vol 2734, Issue 2

2017-09-16 Thread Mark Andrews
Because it isn't all about udp size. Sending a OPT signals that the client supports EDNS. Also if you want DNSSEC you send the do with EDNS. -- Mark Andrews > On 17 Sep 2017, at 16:10, Harshith Mulky wrote: > > Am 15.09.2017 um 09:37 schrieb Harshith Mulky: > > Hello Experts, > > > > I had

Re: bind-users Digest, Vol 2734, Issue 2

2017-09-16 Thread Harshith Mulky
Am 15.09.2017 um 09:37 schrieb Harshith Mulky: > Hello Experts, > > I had a query on advertising the payload size on client in DNS Responses > over UDP/TCP > > > This is as much I have understood from RFC 6891, that a > requester(client) can address his capabilities to restrict the UDP > Payload si

Re: Different forwarder for certain response ip (result ip )

2017-09-16 Thread Paul Kosinski
Maybe he has no say in what ISP is used, and they have draconian policies... On Sat, 16 Sep 2017 19:48:51 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > . . . > >Note:1.2.3.4 is not what they really return . I've changed it for > >privacy . > > why? it's your ISP, there's no need to hide IP they send t

Re: Automatic Key Management

2017-09-16 Thread Mark Elkins
On 14/09/2017 16:55, Tony Finch wrote: > Mark Elkins wrote: > >> With BIND version 9.12  coming out - I'm wondering if I've missed any >> announcements on some form of Automatic (DNS)Key Management? >> Something that will create and retire keys according to some sort of policy. > See dnssec-keymg

Re: Different forwarder for certain response ip (result ip )

2017-09-16 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 16.09.17 07:01, Omid Kosari via bind-users wrote: 2nd scenario is mine . Upstream manipulated everything on 53 tcp/udp . Even if i query a non-existent dns-server it returns result ;) Note:1.2.3.4 is not what they really return . I've changed it for privacy . why? it's your ISP, there's n

Re: Different forwarder for certain response ip (result ip )

2017-09-16 Thread /dev/rob0
On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 10:50:14AM +, Alberto Colosi wrote: > even on hotel . why not to use a BIND on unix or window > on ur box u r using ? > > it is so easy Ugh, this is a mailing list, please use real words and not TXT messaging / chat abbreviations. Thank you. No, it is not ea

Re: Different forwarder for certain response ip (result ip )

2017-09-16 Thread /dev/rob0
On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 03:18:57AM -0700, Omid Kosari via bind-users wrote: > This is my first post to this mailing list . And it's a classic example of "XY question": "I want to do X, and I think Y will do it, so I ask how to do Y, although people more familiar with the subject matter think

Re: Different forwarder for certain response ip (result ip )

2017-09-16 Thread Sten Carlsen
On 16-09-2017 16.01, Omid Kosari via bind-users wrote: > 2nd scenario is mine . Upstream manipulated everything on 53 tcp/udp . Even > if i query a non-existent dns-server it returns result ;) > > C:\WINDOWS\system32>nslookup newsroom.fb.com 8.8.8.254 > Server: UnKnown > Address: 8.8.8.254 > >

Re: Different forwarder for certain response ip (result ip )

2017-09-16 Thread Omid Kosari via bind-users
2nd scenario is mine . Upstream manipulated everything on 53 tcp/udp . Even if i query a non-existent dns-server it returns result ;) C:\WINDOWS\system32>nslookup newsroom.fb.com 8.8.8.254 Server: UnKnown Address: 8.8.8.254 Non-authoritative answer: Name:newsroom.fb.com Addresses: 1.2.3.4

Re: Different forwarder for certain response ip (result ip )

2017-09-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.09.2017 um 15:12 schrieb Sten Carlsen: On 16-09-2017 14.56, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 16.09.17 04:19, Omid Kosari via bind-users wrote: Actually my situation is a bit strange . But as explanation i can say that our upstream provider do dns manipulation on normal ports 53 tcp/ud

Re: Different forwarder for certain response ip (result ip )

2017-09-16 Thread Sten Carlsen
On 16-09-2017 14.56, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 16.09.17 04:19, Omid Kosari via bind-users wrote: >> Actually my situation is a bit strange . But as explanation i can say >> that >> our upstream provider do dns manipulation on normal ports 53 tcp/udp >> (please >> don't ask why). We may n

Re: Different forwarder for certain response ip (result ip )

2017-09-16 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 16.09.17 04:19, Omid Kosari via bind-users wrote: Actually my situation is a bit strange . But as explanation i can say that our upstream provider do dns manipulation on normal ports 53 tcp/udp (please don't ask why). We may not use vpn or tunnels . The only way is using alternate ports as for

Re: Different forwarder for cerain response ip (result ip )

2017-09-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.09.2017 um 14:26 schrieb Alberto Colosi: your answer to "Actually my situation is a bit strange . But as explanation i can say that our upstream provider do dns manipulation on normal ports 53 tcp/udp" coming with "port 53 is only open directed to forwarders" and "I think u should read

Re: Different forwarder for cerain response ip (result ip )

2017-09-16 Thread Alberto Colosi
>your answer to "Actually my situation is a bit strange . But as >explanation i can say that our upstream provider do dns manipulation on >normal ports 53 tcp/udp" coming with "port 53 is only open directed to >forwarders" and "I think u should read how DNS works, TLD and so on >simply drop forwar

Re: Different forwarder for cerain response ip (result ip )

2017-09-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.09.2017 um 13:30 schrieb Alberto Colosi: I read so well your answer and wasn't an answer to you in all case ,                who said I can't use port 53 if blocked ? 😲         are many ways       without a VPN that usually is a paid service or a company service for who have it. In

Re: Different forwarder for certain response ip (result ip )

2017-09-16 Thread Omid Kosari via bind-users
I asked a technical question . Please answer technically if you know the answer . Else your answer just take others time . Thanks inn advance -- Sent from: http://bind-users-forum.2342410.n4.nabble.com/ ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/

Re: Different forwarder for certain response ip (result ip )

2017-09-16 Thread Alberto Colosi
port 53 is only open directed to forwarders as I read , you think to use different forwarders so , port 53 should be open to all IP , right ? I think u should read how DNS works, TLD and so on simply drop forwarders only use TLD From: bind-us

Re: Different forwarder for cerain response ip (result ip )

2017-09-16 Thread Alberto Colosi
I read so well your answer and wasn't an answer to you in all case ,who said I can't use port 53 if blocked ? 😲 are many ways without a VPN that usually is a paid service or a company service for who have it. In all case even VPN even 443 is open, can be dropped

Re: Different forwarder for certain response ip (result ip )

2017-09-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.09.2017 um 13:19 schrieb Omid Kosari via bind-users: Wow . I love active community . Actually my situation is a bit strange . But as explanation i can say that our upstream provider do dns manipulation on normal ports 53 tcp/udp (please don't ask why). We may not use vpn or tunnels . The

Re: Different forwarder for certain response ip (result ip )

2017-09-16 Thread Omid Kosari via bind-users
Wow . I love active community . Actually my situation is a bit strange . But as explanation i can say that our upstream provider do dns manipulation on normal ports 53 tcp/udp (please don't ask why). We may not use vpn or tunnels . The only way is using alternate ports as forwarders. But i can no

Re: Different forwarder for certain response ip (result ip )

2017-09-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.09.2017 um 12:50 schrieb Alberto Colosi: even on hotel . why not to use a BIND on unix or window on ur box u r using ? did you read what i repsoned and too and did you try to understand my answer? a default bind with recursion won't work when it can't connect to the world in

Re: Different forwarder for certain response ip (result ip )

2017-09-16 Thread Alberto Colosi
even on hotel . why not to use a BIND on unix or window on ur box u r using ? it is so easy From: bind-users on behalf of Reindl Harald Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 12:46 PM To: bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Re: Different forwarder for cer

Re: Different forwarder for certain response ip (result ip )

2017-09-16 Thread Alberto Colosi
is really normal ! I have seen even with DNS from VODAFONE or COLT-TELECOM , ALBACOM / BT.COM and so on. I used more but all here have some that give some trouble. Telecom Italia / TIM so to say are good. not all are good or fast updating (not depending on TTL) At work as ITC Engineer I have

Re: Different forwarder for certain response ip (result ip )

2017-09-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.09.2017 um 12:32 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: 1. who runs DNS servers on port 443? likely people which where bitten by hotel access points where 53 is catched to a internal nameserver and outgoing only 80/443 are possible, the same reason many people have a VPN server on 443 _

Re: Different forwarder for certain response ip (result ip )

2017-09-16 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 16.09.17 03:18, Omid Kosari via bind-users wrote: I have a caching bind dns server with forwarders like this . forwarders { 8.8.8.8; 8.8.4.4; }; why do you use forwarders? You rarely need that - not when you have acess to the nameservers on internet. BIND can do very well without

Different forwarder for certain response ip (result ip )

2017-09-16 Thread Omid Kosari via bind-users
Hello, This is my first post to this mailing list . I have a caching bind dns server with forwarders like this . forwarders { 8.8.8.8; 8.8.4.4; }; I want to use another forwarders if the response of the query is for example 1.2.3.4 I've found that rpz-ip is what i want but i was