Re: Automatic DNSSEC signing workflow

2016-07-05 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <2274914.OQEsm7p8Dx@dan>, "Daniel A. Ramaley" writes: > On 2016-07-05 at 15:26:31 Tony Finch wrote: > > There is a third option: > > > > 3) Maintain zone files with a text editor, and use inline-signing mode > > to get named to sign them. > > > > For option 3 you don't want an update-

Re: auto-dnssec maintain and DNSKEY removal

2016-07-05 Thread Mathew Ian Eis
Thanks for the clarification. In terms of config options, I assume we are talking about the following: dnssec-loadkeys-interval (with a default of 60 minutes) sig-validity-interval (with a default of 30 days) So… A new key should be published for at least [sig-validity-interval] before deletion

Re: auto-dnssec maintain and DNSKEY removal

2016-07-05 Thread Tony Finch
Mathew Ian Eis wrote: > > > Are you allowing enough time for named to go through a zone key > > maintenance cycle? (which is hourly if I remember correctly) > > I’m not sure, it sounds like perhaps not always? You’ve > mentioned a “zone > key maintenance cycle” of an hour, and the docs also casual

Re: auto-dnssec maintain and DNSKEY removal

2016-07-05 Thread Mathew Ian Eis
> How promptly are you deleting the key files? Any time >= deletion time, varying… we think this could explain why only some of the DNSKEYs are becoming zombies, but not all. > Are you allowing enough time for named to go through a zone key maintenance > cycle? (which is hourly if I remember co

Re: Automatic DNSSEC signing workflow

2016-07-05 Thread Daniel A. Ramaley
On 2016-07-05 at 15:26:31 Tony Finch wrote: > There is a third option: > > 3) Maintain zone files with a text editor, and use inline-signing mode > to get named to sign them. > > For option 3 you don't want an update-policy clause. OK, that's actually the behavior that i was trying to achieve. E

Re: Automatic DNSSEC signing workflow

2016-07-05 Thread Tony Finch
Daniel A. Ramaley wrote: > > From the responses i received, it seems i completely misunderstood how > automatic signing is supposed to work. If i'm now understanding > correctly, there are 2 mutually exclusive ways to do things: > 1) Maintain zone files with a text editor, and sign them manually

Re: Automatic DNSSEC signing workflow

2016-07-05 Thread Daniel A. Ramaley
On 2016-07-04 at 15:44:32 Tony Finch wrote: > In most cases it is best to either use `nsupdate` exclusively, or > directly edit the master file, but not a mixture of the two. If you > are using `nsupdate` then there is no need for inline-signing. >From the responses i received, it seems i complet

Reply to digests [was: RE: bind-users Digest, Vol 1727, Issue 1]

2016-07-05 Thread Chris Thompson
On Jul 4 2016, G.W. Haywood wrote: Hi there, On Mon, 4 Jul 2016, Amit Kumar Gupta wrote: [An entire digest message, which I've snipped] It would be extremely helpful to those of us on the digest list, and generally more polite, if you would NOT include in your posts to the list, simply in o