Re: BIND 9.10.0b1 is now available

2014-03-17 Thread Evan Hunt
> Well, I'm going to put a radio button for people to use the native PKCS11 > or OpenSSL, and maybe create a slave port enabling the PKCS11 by default. > And add warnings telling people that this BIND can't be used as a > validating resolver. (it's not auth only, I assume it can still resolve, > bu

Re: BIND 9.10.0b1 is now available

2014-03-17 Thread Mathieu Arnold
+--On 17 mars 2014 14:43:36 -0700 Doug Barton wrote: | On 03/17/2014 01:06 PM, Evan Hunt wrote: |> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 08:41:13PM +0100, Mathieu Arnold wrote: |>> Yes, it was my understanding of how HSM worked. That's why I was trying |>> to build with OpenSSL *and* native PKCS11, to get the D

Re: BIND 9.10.0b1 is now available

2014-03-17 Thread Evan Hunt
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 11:41:07PM +0200, Mark Elkins wrote: > I had not thought about that. BIND compiled with pkcs11 and no openssl > *has* to be used with an HSM (soft and Thales being the two tested > types) presumably as a Zone signer and can *not* be used as a DNSSEC > validating resolver

Re: BIND 9.10.0b1 is now available

2014-03-17 Thread Mark Elkins
On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 20:06 +, Evan Hunt wrote: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 08:41:13PM +0100, Mathieu Arnold wrote: > > Yes, it was my understanding of how HSM worked. That's why I was trying to > > build with OpenSSL *and* native PKCS11, to get the DNSSEC validation on one > > side, and PKCS11 i

Re: BIND 9.10.0b1 is now available

2014-03-17 Thread Doug Barton
On 03/17/2014 01:06 PM, Evan Hunt wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 08:41:13PM +0100, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Yes, it was my understanding of how HSM worked. That's why I was trying to build with OpenSSL *and* native PKCS11, to get the DNSSEC validation on one side, and PKCS11 interface for zone sign

Re: Update Security

2014-03-17 Thread Chris Buxton
On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:32 AM, Bob McDonald wrote: > Ok so it's not painless. Do the updates still get forwarded to the master by > the slaves or do I need to have all Windows devices needing update capability > to point at the master? > > TIA, > > Bob I don't believe it works with update for

Re: BIND 9.10.0b1 is now available

2014-03-17 Thread Evan Hunt
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 08:41:13PM +0100, Mathieu Arnold wrote: > Yes, it was my understanding of how HSM worked. That's why I was trying to > build with OpenSSL *and* native PKCS11, to get the DNSSEC validation on one > side, and PKCS11 interface for zone signing on the other. I'd advise doing th

Re: BIND 9.10.0b1 is now available

2014-03-17 Thread Mathieu Arnold
+--On 17 mars 2014 12:36:32 -0700 Doug Barton wrote: | On 03/17/2014 12:29 PM, Mathieu Arnold wrote: |> Hum, so, it will also use pkcs11 for dnssec validation too ? (Sorry if |> this seems a silly question.) | | HSMs are typically an auth-only tool, although I suppose that in a | super-high-secur

Re: BIND 9.10.0b1 is now available

2014-03-17 Thread Doug Barton
On 03/17/2014 12:29 PM, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Hum, so, it will also use pkcs11 for dnssec validation too ? (Sorry if this seems a silly question.) HSMs are typically an auth-only tool, although I suppose that in a super-high-security environment that they could be justified for validation ...

Re: BIND 9.10.0b1 is now available

2014-03-17 Thread Mathieu Arnold
+--On 17 mars 2014 17:51:33 + Evan Hunt wrote: | This new code uses pkcs11 for all crypto, instead of using openssl as a | shim. So yes, you can build with either native pkcs11 or openssl, but | not both. Hum, so, it will also use pkcs11 for dnssec validation too ? (Sorry if this seems a sil

Re: BIND 9.10.0b1 is now available

2014-03-17 Thread Evan Hunt
> | Has anyone tried this yet? - either using SoftHSM or a Thales HSM? > | > | I have access to a totally unconfigured Thales netShield Connect 500. > | > | Without reading *all* the manuals - anyone have a HowTo setup to make > | one of these beasties talk PKCS#11... a Goto page XX is acceptabl

Re: BIND 9.10.0b1 is now available

2014-03-17 Thread Mathieu Arnold
+--On 17 mars 2014 18:56:25 +0200 Mark Elkins wrote: | On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 00:55 +, Michael McNally wrote: |>A new compile-time option, "configure --enable-native-pkcs11", |>allows the BIND 9 cryptography functions to use the PKCS#11 API |>natively, so that BIND can drive a crypt

Re: BIND 9.10.0b1 is now available

2014-03-17 Thread Mark Elkins
On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 00:55 +, Michael McNally wrote: >A new compile-time option, "configure --enable-native-pkcs11", >allows the BIND 9 cryptography functions to use the PKCS#11 API >natively, so that BIND can drive a cryptographic hardware service >module (HSM) directly instea

Re: Re: Audit the consistency of zone files on DNS servers

2014-03-17 Thread Maren S. Leizaola
Thanks for your reply. Maybe I am a skeptic, but I am not skeptic of just bind, skeptic about myself and any script that is generating zones, all I know that things go wrong... including things caused by my own mistakes. 1. I now run a Bind and other DNS servers. I am not sure if inter oper

Re: Update Security

2014-03-17 Thread Bob McDonald
Signed updates, that is... On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 5:32 AM, Bob McDonald wrote: > Ok so it's not painless. Do the updates still get forwarded to the master > by the slaves or do I need to have all Windows devices needing update > capability to point at the master? > > TIA, > > Bob > > > > On F