Re: Clients get DNS timeouts because ipv6 means more queries for each lookup

2011-07-11 Thread Mark Andrews
Wikipedia have been told multiple times that their nameservers are broken, that they fail to add the CNAME records, as required by RFC 1034, which results in garbage answers being returned. Those garbage answers result in the FORMERR log messages. Both of the answers below should have CNAME chai

Re: Clients get DNS timeouts because ipv6 means more queries for each lookup

2011-07-11 Thread Michael Sinatra
Users are experiencing this problem now in the field, and more users will be experiencing it as BIND is upgraded in more and more places. Every single user relying on a Fedora 15 DNS server, for example, is going to see occasional unnecessary DNS timeouts when trying to resolve host names.

Re: Clients get DNS timeouts because ipv6 means more queries for each lookup

2011-07-11 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/11/2011 11:11, Jonathan Kamens wrote: > The number of DNS queries required for each address lookup requested by > a client has gone up considerably because of IPV6. The problem is being > exacerbated by the fact that many DNS servers on the net don't yet > support IPV6 queries. I have to dis

Re: Clients get DNS timeouts because ipv6 means more queries for each lookup

2011-07-11 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <4e1b5c57.8090...@kamens.us>, Jonathan Kamens writes: > On 7/11/2011 4:06 PM, Bill Owens wrote: > > https://lists.isc.org/pipermail/bind-users/2011-March/083109.html > > in which the first sentence says it all: "The nameservers for wikiped= > ia.org are broken." > It's not just wikipe

Re: Clients get DNS timeouts because ipv6 means more queries for each lookup

2011-07-11 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <4e1b562b.2070...@kamens.us>, Jonathan Kamens writes: > > On 7/11/2011 3:26 PM, Eivind Olsen wrote: > > I think the main issue here is - why is your nameserver thinking it has= > > > IPv6 connectivity? > No, this isn't the issue. > > I see the FORMERR errors in syslog and the timeout

Re: Clients get DNS timeouts because ipv6 means more queries for each lookup

2011-07-11 Thread Bill Owens
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 04:25:59PM -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote: > On 7/11/2011 4:06 PM, Bill Owens wrote: > >https://lists.isc.org/pipermail/bind-users/2011-March/083109.html > > in which the first sentence says it all: "The nameservers for > > wikipedia.org are broken." > It's not just wikiped

Re: "Key : Delaying activation to match the DNSKEY TTL."

2011-07-11 Thread Paul B. Henson
On 7/7/2011 12:37 PM, Evan Hunt wrote: less than $dnskey_ttl seconds in the future. If the activation time were further away, it would not warn you. If it were in the past, it would use the key to sign the zone, and again it would not warn you. There's only a window of $dnskey_ttl seconds in w

Re: Clients get DNS timeouts because ipv6 means more queries for each lookup

2011-07-11 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Jul 11, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote: > Even if PowerDNS is the only source of this issue, and even if the new > version of PowerDNS is released tomorrow, I'm sure there will still be sites > running the old version a year from now. So just relying on a PowerDNS > release to fix th

Re: Clients get DNS timeouts because ipv6 means more queries for each lookup

2011-07-11 Thread Tim Maestas
I'm unclear how BIND could be modified to fix this. The querying client machines are asking BIND for records. BIND goes out to the authoritative nameservers to attempt to resolve said records. The broken nameservers (PowerDNS <3.0 etc) timeout or otherwise hand out bad responses (FORME

Re: Clients get DNS timeouts because ipv6 means more queries for each lookup

2011-07-11 Thread Kevin Darcy
On 7/11/2011 2:11 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote: The number of DNS queries required for each address lookup requested by a client has gone up considerably because of IPV6. The problem is being exacerbated by the fact that many DNS servers on the net don't yet support IPV6 queries. The result is tha

Re: Clients get DNS timeouts because ipv6 means more queries for each lookup

2011-07-11 Thread Jonathan Kamens
On 7/11/2011 4:06 PM, Bill Owens wrote: https://lists.isc.org/pipermail/bind-users/2011-March/083109.html in which the first sentence says it all: "The nameservers for wikipedia.org are broken." It's not just wikipedia.org that's broken, obviously. I see this error in my logs for 19 domains s

Re: Clients get DNS timeouts because ipv6 means more queries for each lookup

2011-07-11 Thread Phil Mayers
On 07/11/2011 07:11 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote: The number of DNS queries required for each address lookup requested by a client has gone up considerably because of IPV6. The problem is being exacerbated by the fact that many DNS servers on the net don't yet support IPV6 queries. The result is t

Re: Clients get DNS timeouts because ipv6 means more queries for each lookup

2011-07-11 Thread Bill Owens
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 02:11:57PM -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote: > The number of DNS queries required for each address lookup requested by > a client has gone up considerably because of IPV6. The problem is being > exacerbated by the fact that many DNS servers on the net don't yet > support IPV6

Re: Clients get DNS timeouts because ipv6 means more queries for each lookup

2011-07-11 Thread Jonathan Kamens
On 7/11/2011 3:26 PM, Eivind Olsen wrote: I think the main issue here is - why is your nameserver thinking it has IPv6 connectivity? No, this isn't the issue. I see the FORMERR errors in syslog and the timeouts resolving host names even when I start named with -4. Named is querying for

Re: Clients get DNS timeouts because ipv6 means more queries for each lookup

2011-07-11 Thread Jonathan Kamens
On 7/11/2011 3:10 PM, Tony Finch wrote: Jonathan Kamens wrote: I said above that the problem is exacerbated by the fact that many DNS servers don't yet support IPV6 queries. This is because the queries don't get NXDOMAIN responses, which would be cached, but rather FORMERR responses, which

Re: Allowing resolution of off-server CNAMEs

2011-07-11 Thread Kevin Darcy
On 7/8/2011 12:11 PM, Joseph S D Yao wrote: It should be possible to set up an authoritative-only name server so that it does not recurse for anyone [except perhaps itself], but still allow someone to get a full resolution of a name whose canonical name is elsewhere. IMHBUCO. I started with thi

Re: Clients get DNS timeouts because ipv6 means more queries for each lookup

2011-07-11 Thread Eivind Olsen
Jonathan Kamens wrote: > I said above that the problem is exacerbated by the fact that many DNS > servers don't yet support IPV6 queries. This is because the queries > don't get NXDOMAIN responses, which would be cached, but rather FORMERR > responses, which are not cached. As a result, the s

Re: Clients get DNS timeouts because ipv6 means more queries for each lookup

2011-07-11 Thread Tony Finch
Jonathan Kamens wrote: > > I said above that the problem is exacerbated by the fact that many DNS servers > don't yet support IPV6 queries. This is because the queries don't get > NXDOMAIN responses, which would be cached, but rather FORMERR responses, which > are not cached. As a result, the

Clients get DNS timeouts because ipv6 means more queries for each lookup

2011-07-11 Thread Jonathan Kamens
The number of DNS queries required for each address lookup requested by a client has gone up considerably because of IPV6. The problem is being exacerbated by the fact that many DNS servers on the net don't yet support IPV6 queries. The result is that address lookups are frequently taking so lo

Re: Disabling DNSSEC validation per zone?

2011-07-11 Thread Daniel McDonald
On 7/11/11 12:15 PM, "Tony Finch" wrote: > Daniel McDonald wrote: >> >> ; <<>> DiG 9.8.0-P4 <<>> @localhost ips.backscatterer.local ds >> ; (1 server found) >> ;; global options: +cmd >> ;; Got answer: >> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 26308 >> ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QU

Re: Disabling DNSSEC validation per zone?

2011-07-11 Thread Tony Finch
Daniel McDonald wrote: > > ; <<>> DiG 9.8.0-P4 <<>> @localhost ips.backscatterer.local ds > ; (1 server found) > ;; global options: +cmd > ;; Got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 26308 > ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 Are you

Re: session.key and managed-keys

2011-07-11 Thread Chris Thompson
On Jul 10 2011, Emil Natan wrote: Hi, I have few boxes running BIND 9.7.3-P3. I do not use DNSSEC (for now) and dynamic updates (at all) and I have them explicitly disabled in named.conf (dnssec-enable no; dnssec-validation no; allow-update{ none; };) but I see named still searching for m

Re: SPF implementation schedule.

2011-07-11 Thread Eivind Olsen
kalpesh varyani wrote: > Does ISC implement SPF for server or client side currently? > If yes, then where to get the libraries; if not then what is the > scheduled date/release for implementation? I'm not ISC, and anything I say may be completely wrong. Ok, that's the disclaimer done with... BIN

SPF implementation schedule.

2011-07-11 Thread kalpesh varyani
Hi, As per the ARM document for bind9.7, ISC has provided support for new RR(resource record) types including SPF. Comparison of code of Bind9.3 and Bind9.7 suggests that new libraries (at src\lib\dns) have been provided for SPF identification. However, either the function definitions are absent o