Re: [bess] WG adoption poll for draft-malhotra-bess-evpn-unequal-lb-04

Support, not aware of any IPR. Yours Irrespectively, John From: BESS On Behalf Of stephane.litkow...@orange.com Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 3:29 AM To: bess@ietf.org Subject: [bess] WG adoption poll for draft-malhotra-bess-evpn-unequal-lb-04 Hi WG, This email begins a two-week poll for B

Re: [bess] Encoding a 20 bit label in a 24 bit field.

I don't think that's a good idea because depending upon their position in the stack, these labels may not be at the bottom of the stack. Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: BESS On Behalf Of Zhuangshunwan > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 9:02 PM > To: Jakob Heitz (j

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

Jorge, The other possibility for this case is for each PE to advertise a Per EVI Ethernet A-D route for only those EVIs for which it would become DF if the current DF were to fail. Yours Irrespectively, John From: BESS On Behalf Of Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) Sent: Tuesday, Oc

Re: [bess] A question regarding draft-wang-bess-evepn-control-word

Hi, Comment inline Yours Irrespectively, John From: BESS On Behalf Of Alexander Vainshtein Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 11:57 AM To: Yutianpeng (Tim) Cc: bess@ietf.org; draft-wang-bess-evpn-control-word.auth...@ietf.org; Wanghaibo (Rainsword) Subject: Re: [bess] A question regarding dr

Re: [bess] About draft-brissette-bess-evpn-l2gw-proto-03

Hi, I agree w/ Jorge's proposal. Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: BESS On Behalf Of Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - > US/Mountain View) > Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 4:45 AM > To: bess@ietf.org; draft-brissette-bess-evpn-l2gw-proto.auth...@ietf.org > Subject: [bess]

Re: [bess] About draft-brissette-bess-evpn-l2gw-proto-03

Patrice, I think it is much cleaner to treat the attachment of a set of L2GW PEs to an L2 network as a set of individual ESes, one per L2GW PE, as Jorge suggests. This is because a remote PE accesses different parts of the L2 network through different L2GW PEs; i.e., to a remote PE the connec

Re: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-virtual-eth-segment

Support, Juniper has supported this feature for an eternity, not aware of any IPR Yours Irrespectively, John From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of stephane.litkow...@orange.com Sent: Monday, December 3, 2018 5:43 AM To: bess@ietf.org Subject: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementatio

Re: [bess] Last Call: (Framework for EVPN Designated Forwarder Election Extensibility) to Proposed Standard

Comment inline Sent from my iPhone On Dec 18, 2018, at 12:33 PM, Neeraj Malhotra mailto:neeraj.i...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi, Very solid and understandable. Couple of minor comments [NM]: Section 2.1: Layer-2 devices are particularly susceptible to forwarding loops because of the broadcast nat

Re: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-nsh-bgp-control-plane

Wim, The subject draft was designed w/ NSH in mind. We added an MPLS representation of the NSH later, which is the subject of the first draft you referenced, below. The way the subject draft is written, the representation of the NSH and the type of transport tunnel can change on a hop-by-hop

Re: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-nsh-bgp-control-plane

Andy, That sounds right. Yours Irrespectively, John From: Andrew G. Malis Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 6:32 PM To: John E Drake Cc: Henderickx, Wim (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) ; stephane.litkow...@orange.com; bess@ietf.org; bess-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation

Re: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-nsh-bgp-control-plane

Andy, We’ll add it to the next revision. Thanks for your help. Yours Irrespectively, John From: Andrew G. Malis Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 11:48 AM To: John E Drake Cc: Henderickx, Wim (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) ; stephane.litkow...@orange.com; bess@ietf.org; bess-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re

Re: [bess] WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-salam-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-01

Support, not aware of any IPR Yours Irrespectively, John From: Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB) Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 5:23 AM To: bess@ietf.org Cc: draft-salam-bess-evpn-oam-req-fr...@ietf.org Subject: WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-salam-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-01 This email begins

Re: [bess] WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-rabadan-sajassi-bess-evpn-ipvpn-interworking-02

Support. I'm not aware of any IPR. Yours Irrespectively, John From: stephane.litkow...@orange.com Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 10:53 AM To: draft-rabadan-sajassi-bess-evpn-ipvpn-interwork...@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org Cc: bess-cha...@ietf.org Subject: WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-rabada

Re: [bess] WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-malhotra-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-04

Support, not aware of any IPR Yours Irrespectively, John From: stephane.litkow...@orange.com Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 3:43 AM To: bess@ietf.org; draft-malhotra-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobil...@ietf.org Cc: bess-cha...@ietf.org Subject: WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-malhotra-bess-evpn-i

Re: [bess] WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-malhotra-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-04

Support Yours Irrespectively, John From: mitesh kanjariya Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 4:49 PM To: bess@ietf.org; draft-malhotra-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobil...@ietf.org; stephane.litkow...@orange.com Cc: bess-cha...@ietf.org Subject: WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-malhotra-bess-evpn-irb-

Re: [bess] WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-malhotra-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-04

Not aware of any IPR Yours Irrespectively, John From: mitesh kanjariya Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 4:49 PM To: bess@ietf.org; draft-malhotra-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobil...@ietf.org; stephane.litkow...@orange.com Cc: bess-cha...@ietf.org Subject: WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-malhotra-b

Re: [bess] About draft-brissette-bess-evpn-mh-pa-02

Hi, I agree w/ both Jorge and Krzysztof. All we need is a new DF Election capability, port active load balancing, and a description of how each of the defined DF elections is modified. For HRW, RFC 8584 already describes computing a 32 bit CRC over the concatenation of Ethernet Tag and ESI so

Re: [bess] WG adoption poll and IPR poll for draft-boutros-bess-evpn-geneve

Support, not aware of any IPR Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Internal From: BESS On Behalf Of stephane.litkow...@orange.com Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 9:55 AM To: bess@ietf.org Cc: bess-cha...@ietf.org Subject: [bess] WG adoption poll and IPR poll for draft-boutros-bess-evpn-geneve Hi

Re: [bess] WG adoption poll and IPR poll for draft-boutros-bess-evpn-geneve

I'm not aware of any IPR Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Internal From: BESS On Behalf Of stephane.litkow...@orange.com Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 9:55 AM To: bess@ietf.org Cc: bess-cha...@ietf.org Subject: [bess] WG adoption poll and IPR poll for draft-boutros-bess-evpn-geneve Hi, T

Re: [bess] Shepherd's review of draft-ietf-bess-nsh-bgp-control-plane-06

Hi, We can't time-out an attribute, we would have to time-out the SFPR w/ which it is associated. However, I don't think we should do that. Rather, I think what we should do is indicate that at any point in time an SFF selects its next hop from the intersection of the set of next hop RDs conta

Re: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy

Support. I'm not aware of any undisclosed IPR. Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Internal From: BESS On Behalf Of stephane.litkow...@orange.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 4:53 AM To: bess@ietf.org Cc: bess-cha...@ietf.org Subject: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-be

Re: [bess] WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-keyupate-bess-evpn-virtual-hub-02

Support, I'm not aware of any IPR. Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only From: Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB) Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 4:36 AM To: draft-keyupate-bess-evpn-virtual-...@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org Cc: bess-cha...@ietf.org Subject: WG adoption and IPR poll for

Re: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-pref-df

Support. I'm not aware of any IPR. Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only From: slitkows.i...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 10:46 AM To: bess@ietf.org; draft-ietf-bess-evpn-pref...@ietf.org Cc: bess-cha...@ietf.org Subject: WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draf

Re: [bess] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8584 (5899)

I agree Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 12, 2019, at 3:10 PM, Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) > wrote: > > Hi, > > I don't understand why this erratum was filed. > "Broadcast Domain" is the correct term used in RFC7432 and all the EVPN > documents. > It should be rejected. > > Thank

Re: [bess] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8584 (5899)

; | phone: +1 613 254 4814 On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 10:30 AM John E Drake mailto:40juniper@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: I agree Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 12, 2019, at 3:10 PM, Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) > mailto:jorge.raba...@nokia.com>> wrote: > >

Re: [bess] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8584 (5900)

This should be rejected as well. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 12, 2019, at 5:32 PM, RFC Errata System > wrote: > > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8584, > "Framework for Ethernet VPN Designated Forwarder Election Extensibility". > > -

Re: [bess] WGLC , IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-unequal-lb-03

Support, not aware of any IPR Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only From: slitkows.i...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 3:56 AM To: bess@ietf.org; draft-ietf-bess-evpn-unequal-lb.auth...@ietf.org Cc: bess-cha...@ietf.org Subject: WGLC , IPR and implementation poll for

Re: [bess] REMINDER Re: WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-ietf-bess-datacenter-gateway-04

Support and not aware of any IPR Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only From: Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB) Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 6:29 AM To: draft-ietf-bess-datacenter-gate...@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org Subject: REMINDER Re: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation P

Re: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-mcast-04

Support and not aware of any IPR Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only From: BESS On Behalf Of slitkows.i...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:25 AM To: 'BESS' Cc: bess-cha...@ietf.org Subject: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb

Re: [bess] new WGLC on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy-05

Much better Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only From: BESS On Behalf Of Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 4:09 PM To: slitkows.i...@gmail.com; bess@ietf.org Cc: Prabhu, Vinod (Nokia - CA/Ottawa) ; bess-cha...@ietf.org; Dornon, Olivier (No

Re: [bess] WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-dunbar-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage-07

Support, and I'm not aware of any IPR Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only From: BESS On Behalf Of slitkows.i...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 8:14 AM To: bess@ietf.org Subject: [bess] WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-dunbar-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage-07 [External Email

Re: [bess] WG Last Call and IPR Poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-02

Support, and not aware of any IPR Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only From: Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB) Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 6:56 AM To: draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-fr...@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org Subject: WG Last Call and IPR Poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk

Re: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-geneve-01

Support and not aware of any IPR Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only From: slitkows.i...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 7:46 AM To: bess@ietf.org; draft-ietf-bess-evpn-gen...@ietf.org Cc: bess-cha...@ietf.org; 'idr@ietf. org' Subject: WGLC, IPR and implementation poll

Re: [bess] IPSec Tunnels and draft-sajassi-bess-secure-evpn

Hi, I also agree with Ali. Eric specifically included the Tunnel Encapsulation Extended Community in his draft at our request in order to support RFC 8365. I.e., the draft that became RFC 8365 initially used the Tunnel Encapsulation Extended Community defined in RFC 5512 and pre-dated by seve

Re: [bess] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-nsh-bgp-control-plane-15: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Ben, An RD is encoded using the same format as an extended community but it isn't an extended community. Rather, it is actually part of the NLRI. The first octet is always zero whereas the first octet of an SFIR Pool Identifier extended community will always be non-zero (TBD6). Yours Irrespe

Re: [bess] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-nsh-bgp-control-plane-15: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Ben, Perhaps, although AFAIK the three values defined in RFC 4364 have not been supplemented since it was published in 2006. Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only > -Original Message- > From: Benjamin Kaduk > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 9:49 AM > To:

Re: [bess] WGLC and IPR poll on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ipvpn-interworking-03

Support and I'm not aware of any IPR Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only From: slitkows.i...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 3:20 AM To: bess@ietf.org; draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ipvpn-interwork...@ietf.org Subject: WGLC and IPR poll on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ipvpn-interwork

Re: [bess] WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-mohanty-bess-weighted-hrw-01

Support and I'm not aware of any IPR Yours Irrespectively, John From: Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB) Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 4:23 AM To: bess@ietf.org Cc: draft-mohanty-bess-weighted-...@ietf.org Subject: WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-mohanty-bess-weighted-hrw-01 [External Email. B

Re: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-vpws-fxc-02

Support, not aware of any IPR Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only From: Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB) Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 6:13 AM To: bess@ietf.org; draft-ietf-bess-evpn-vpws-...@ietf.org Cc: bess-cha...@ietf.org Subject: WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for

Re: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01

Support and I'm not aware of any IPR. Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only From: BESS On Behalf Of slitkows.i...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 3:58 AM To: bess@ietf.org Cc: bess-cha...@ietf.org Subject: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-iet

Re: [bess] WG Adoption and IPR Poll for draft-mishra-bess-deployment-guide-ipv4nlri-ipv6nh-03

Support, this is good work Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only From: BESS On Behalf Of Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB) Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 5:37 AM To: draft-mishra-bess-deployment-guide-ipv4nlri-ipv...@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org Subject: [bess] WG Adoption and IPR Poll for

Re: [bess] WG and IPR poll adoption poll for draft-krattiger-evpn-modes-interop

Support, and I'm not aware of any IPR Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only From: BESS On Behalf Of slitkows.i...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 2:06 PM To: bess@ietf.org Cc: bess-cha...@ietf.org Subject: [bess] WG and IPR poll adoption poll for draft-krattiger-evpn-mo

Re: [bess] VXLAN BGP EVPN Question

23, 2021 6:21 PM To: Ali Sajassi (sajassi) ; BESS ; Jeff Tantsura ; John E Drake ; Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) Subject: Fwd: [bess] VXLAN BGP EVPN Question [External Email. Be cautious of content] Authors Do we know if this draft will progress to RFC? https://tools.ietf.org

Re: [bess] New short WGLC for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-unequal-lb

Bruno, I had suggested: "The value field in the link bandwidth EC is to be treated as a 6 octet unsigned integer and it is the provider's responsibility to encode it consistently across all of the PEs attached to a given ES. So, for example, if the provider wanted the EC to represent attachm

Re: [bess] New short WGLC for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-unequal-lb

spectively, John Juniper Business Use Only From: bruno.decra...@orange.com Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 9:16 AM To: John E Drake Cc: slitkows.i...@gmail.com; bess@ietf.org; Neeraj Malhotra Subject: RE: [bess] New short WGLC for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-unequal-lb [External Email. Be cautious of co

Re: [bess] New short WGLC for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-unequal-lb

...@orange.com Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 10:06 AM To: John E Drake Cc: slitkows.i...@gmail.com; bess@ietf.org; Neeraj Malhotra Subject: RE: [bess] New short WGLC for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-unequal-lb [External Email. Be cautious of content] John, > It's *not* all egress PEs, it's o

Re: [bess] New short WGLC for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-unequal-lb

does not seem to work with links below 1GBPS. (I personally don't see an issue with the encoding currently chosen in the draft but if authors/WG want to change, this also works for me) Regards, --Bruno From: John E Drake [mailto:jdr...@juniper.net] Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 4:23 PM To:

Re: [bess] New short WGLC for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-unequal-lb

Bruno, I'm sorry, I was just proposing 1 GBS for purposes of discussion. I think 1 Mbit/s would be fine. Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only From: bruno.decra...@orange.com Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 11:58 AM To: John E Drake Cc: slitkows.i...@gmail.com; bess@iet

Re: [bess] Benjamin Kaduk's DISCUSS ballot comment on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-09

Hi, I corresponded with Amanda Baber and she says we can add a note to the IANA Considerations section of the IRB draft stating that "This document has been listed as an additional reference for the MAC/IP Advertisement route in the EVPN Route Type registry". Yours Irrespectively, John Juni

Re: [bess] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Hi, I think that we want to keep the text as-is. I.e., withdraw the route and then send an ARP probe, because in the normal case the ARP probe will fail and we have cleaned up expeditiously. A positive response to the ARP probe is highly unlikely, but if it happens then we need to re-advertis

Re: [bess] [Last-Call] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-bess-datacenter-gateway-10

Excellent, thanks so much for your help on this. Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only > -Original Message- > From: Gyan Mishra > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 4:28 PM > To: Lars Eggert > Cc: General Area Review Team ; bess@ietf.org; draft-ietf- > bess-datacenter-gateway

Re: [bess] WG POLL: Moving forward draft-ietf-bess-evpn-fast-df-recovery by dropping "Handshake" option

Hi, Please use time synchronization only - it's a much simpler and more robust solution. Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only From: BESS On Behalf Of slitkows.i...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 5:19 AM To: 'BESS' Cc: bess-cha...@ietf.org Subject: [bess] WG POLL: Movi

Re: [bess] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Thanks! Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only > -Original Message- > From: Benjamin Kaduk > Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 1:26 PM > To: Ali Sajassi (sajassi) > Cc: The IESG ; draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet- > forward...@ietf.org; bess-cha...@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org;

Re: [bess] Benjamin Kaduk's DISCUSS ballot comment on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-09

Ben, Thanks for your help. I think Ali will add the text from Amanda in the next published version of the draft. Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only > -Original Message- > From: Benjamin Kaduk > Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 1:28 PM > To: John E Drak

Re: [bess] John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-14: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Hi, Comments inline. We are planning to publish a new version of the draft with our proposed changes, on which John Scudder has graciously worked with us, once the black-out has been lifted. Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only > -Original Message- > From: John Scud

Re: [bess] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-bess-datacenter-gateway-12: (with COMMENT)

Ben, Thanks for your thorough review and discussion. Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only > -Original Message- > From: BESS On Behalf Of Benjamin Kaduk via > Datatracker > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 1:22 PM > To: The IESG > Cc: draft-ietf-bess-datacenter-gate...@

Re: [bess] Implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-lsp-ping-05

Hi, I agree with Ali. Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only From: BESS On Behalf Of Ali Sajassi (sajassi) Sent: Friday, August 27, 2021 9:54 PM To: Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB) ; bess@ietf.org; draft-ietf-bess-evpn-lsp-p...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [bess] Implementation poll for

Re: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-vpws-fxc

I'm not aware of any IPR Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only From: BESS On Behalf Of slitkows.i...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:02 AM To: 'BESS' Cc: bess-cha...@ietf.org Subject: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-vpws

Re: [bess] CORRECTION WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for *draft-ietf-bess-evpn-geneve-03*

Support Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only From: Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB) Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 5:00 AM To: bess@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-bess-evpn-gen...@ietf.org Subject: CORRECTION WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for *draft-ietf-bess-evpn-geneve-0

Re: [bess] A question regarding DF election for Virtual Ethernet Segments

Sasha, Thanks for catching this, as it is a remnant. Please see https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8584#section-1.1, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis-01#section-3, and https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis-01#section-8.5. Yours

Re: [bess] A question regarding DF election for Virtual Ethernet Segments

esday, October 19, 2021 9:36 AM To: John E Drake Cc: bess@ietf.org; Luc André Burdet ; draft-ietf-bess-evpn-virtual-eth-segment@ietf.org Subject: RE: A question regarding DF election for Virtual Ethernet Segments Importance: High [External Email. Be cautious of content] John, Lots of thanks for a p

Re: [bess] Doubts about Section 9.6 of draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy

9.6. Rewriting of EVI RT and EVI-RT Extended Communities by ASBRs There are certain situations in which an ES is attached to a set of PEs that are not all in the same AS, or not all operated by the same pr

Re: [bess] Murray Kucherawy's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-bum-procedure-updates-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Hi, Ben is correct in his email, below: The IGMP and MLD Proxy for EVPN draft (draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy-13) is going to create the Multicast Flags Extended Community Registry. The complete list of assignments to be is: 7 SBD (draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-mcast) 8 Segment suppor

Re: [bess] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Ben, Comments inline. Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only > -Original Message- > From: Benjamin Kaduk via Datatracker > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 8:49 PM > To: The IESG > Cc: draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-pr...@ietf.org; bess-cha...@ietf.org; > bess@ietf.org

Re: [bess] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Ben, Thanks for your reply. Mankamana said that he will make the changes you suggested and re-publish the draft today. Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only > -Original Message- > From: Benjamin Kaduk > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 10:08 PM > To:

Re: [bess] A comment and question for the draft "draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-00"

Hi, I think this suggestion is ill-considered. We don't want two alternative solutions. Yours Irrespectively, John From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Haoweiguo Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:02 AM To: Henderickx, Wim (Wim); bess@ietf.org; saja...@cisco.com Subject: Re:

Re: [bess] A comment and question for the draft "draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-00"

Precisely. Yours Irrespectively, John From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge) Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:41 AM To: Haoweiguo; Henderickx, Wim (Wim); bess@ietf.org; saja...@cisco.com Subject: Re: [bess] A comment and question for the draft "draft-iet

Re: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-l2vpn-evpn-prefix-advertisement

Support Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Martin Vigoureux > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 6:02 AM > To: bess@ietf.org > Cc: draft-rabadan-l2vpn-evpn-prefix-advertisem...@tools.ietf.org > Subject: [bess] Poll for

Re: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-l2vpn-evpn-prefix-advertisement

I'm not aware of any IPR Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Martin Vigoureux > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 6:02 AM > To: bess@ietf.org > Cc: draft-rabadan-l2vpn-evpn-prefix-advertisem...@tools.ietf.org > Subject:

[bess] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-evpn-09.txt

Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance

Re: [bess] suggested AUTH48 changes on EVPN draft

Tony, The change you mention in your email below is editorial, clarifying what was already supported in the encodings but not explicitly described. The technical change is in the last paragraph and deals w/ VLAN Aware Bundle service w/ VID translation. Previously the ingress PE translated from

Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments

Russ, I am under the impression that Adrian's email asked for comments on the proposed change to section 6.3. Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Russ White > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 8:42 AM > To: bess@ietf.o

Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments

Russ, Comments inline. Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Russ White > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 3:02 PM > To: Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge) > Cc: bess@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments > > > If

Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments

Russ, Comments inline Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: Russ White [mailto:ru...@riw.us] > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 7:12 PM > To: John E Drake; 'Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge)' > Cc: bess@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [bess] EVPN Draft Comme

Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments

> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 12:25 AM > To: 'Russ White'; John E Drake; 'Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge)' > Cc: bess@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments > > Russ and John: > > I have concerns about the issues Russ has raised as well as other conc

Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments

oints have been allocated. So to recap, we have no interest in or any need for remote next hops. Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: Susan Hares [mailto:sha...@ndzh.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 6:13 AM > To: 'Ali Sajassi (sajassi)&#

Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments

e- > From: Russ White [mailto:ru...@riw.us] > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:17 AM > To: 'Ali Sajassi (sajassi)'; John E Drake; 'Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge)' > Cc: bess@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments > > > > Wrt this draft, th

Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments

Sue, Comments inline. Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: Susan Hares [mailto:sha...@ndzh.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:28 AM > To: John E Drake; 'Russ White'; 'Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge)' > Cc: bess@ietf.org > S

Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments

y, February 03, 2015 3:24 AM > To: John E Drake; Russ White; Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge) > Cc: bess@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments > > Hi Russ, as someone who was involved early on in the EVPN, I can assure you > that we had considered load-balancing as achie

Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments

Russ, Comments inline. Yours Irrespectively, John From: Russ White [mailto:ru...@riw.us] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 3:27 PM To: John E Drake Cc: Ravi Shekhar; Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge); bess@ietf.org Subject: Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments I'm on an iPad, so forgive the top post, but

Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments

Snipped, comment inline. Yours Irrespectively, John What would seem to be better would be for something like a type 2 or DIS to be used. A, B, and C would all advertise connection to the ES, and then A would advertise a connection between the ES and each host it knows about, etc. As B rece

Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments

us] > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 7:17 AM > To: Ravi Shekhar; John E Drake > Cc: 'Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge)'; bess@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments > > > > The approach of A/B/C independently generating route to X only based > > on loca

Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments

Russ, > > John -- clearly you don't want to have a discussion, so there's no point in > having a "nondiscussion" with you. I'll find Ravi at the next IETF, and we can > have an intelligent conversation -- which is apparently only possible when > you're not in the room. [JD] Excellent, sounds li

Re: [bess] Handshaking among PEs in an EVPN ES based on Paxos algorithm

Weiguo, Your proposal introduces a control plane processing load that is O(#EVIs * PEs) per DF election and given that there can be 4K EVIs per ES, this looks like a *substantial* load. Furthermore, you can't use the ES route to co-ordinate DF election because you would need to carry your new

Re: [bess] Handshaking among PEs in an EVPN ES based on Paxos algorithm

Please click here<http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html> for Company Registration Information. From: Haoweiguo mailto:haowei...@huawei.com>> Date: Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:24 AM To: Patrice Brissette mailto:pbris...@cisco.com>>, John E Drake

Re: [bess] Handshaking among PEs in an EVPN ES based on Paxos algorithm

lto:haowei...@huawei.com] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:26 PM To: John E Drake; Patrice Brissette (pbrisset) Cc: Ali Sajassi (sajassi); bess@ietf.org Subject: RE: [bess] Handshaking among PEs in an EVPN ES based on Paxos algorithm Pls read my detail replies to Satya. If you still can't catch

Re: [bess] Handshaking among PEs in an EVPN ES based on Paxos algorithm

[mailto:haowei...@huawei.com] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:37 PM To: John E Drake; Patrice Brissette (pbrisset) Cc: Ali Sajassi (sajassi); bess@ietf.org Subject: RE: [bess] Handshaking among PEs in an EVPN ES based on Paxos algorithm John, As your understanding of the EVPN draft, the DF election

Re: [bess] Handshaking among PEs in an EVPN ES based on Paxos algorithm

Weiguo, I guess I wasn't clear. I think you draft, for the reasons I have detailed, is a non-solution to a non-problem with tremendous control plane cost. Yours Irrespectively, John From: Haoweiguo [mailto:haowei...@huawei.com] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 6:17 PM To: John E Drake; Pa

Re: [bess] Handshaking among PEs in an EVPN ES based on Paxos algorithm

> > The opinion, as I understand, that has been expressed by some is that the > reduction of the transient period where duplicates may arise, is not worth > the cost of an handshaking approach. > > HTH, > > -Thomas > > > 26/03/2015 20:05, John E Drake : > > &

Re: [bess] Handshaking among PEs in an EVPN ES based on Paxos algorithm

Haoweiguo; bess@ietf.org > >>Subject: Re: [bess] Handshaking among PEs in an EVPN ES based on Paxos > >>algorithm > >> > >>Hi Weiguo, > >> > >>2015-03-26, Haoweiguo: > >> > Thomas: > >>> > - RFC7432 may have transient

Re: [bess] Handshaking among PEs in an EVPN ES based on Paxos algorithm

it is fortunate, maybe no loop. > >>For multi-homed network scenario, say local network1(CE1 and CE2) is > >>multi-homed to PE1 and PE2. Similarly, the traffic from CE1 will loop > >>back through PE1-->PE2-->CE2, it is very serious. It is absolutely not > >&

Re: [bess] Handshaking among PEs in an EVPN ES based on Paxos algorithm

: Haoweiguo [mailto:haowei...@huawei.com] > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 11:28 AM > To: John E Drake; Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge); Satya Mohanty (satyamoh); EXT - > thomas.mo...@orange.com; bess@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [bess] Handshaking among PEs in an EVPN ES based on Paxos > algorithm > >

Re: [bess] Handshaking among PEs in an EVPN ES based on Paxos algorithm

the EVPN routes are not time-stamped, you entire discussion of NTP and PTP is completely irrelevant. Yours Irrespectively, John From: John E Drake Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 6:00 PM To: 'Haoweiguo'; Patrice Brissette (pbrisset) Cc: Ali Sajassi (sajassi); bess@ietf.org Subject:

Re: [bess] Handshaking among PEs in an EVPN ES based on Paxos algorithm

Weiguo, Snipped, comments inline. Yours Irrespectively, John From: Haoweiguo [mailto:haowei...@huawei.com] Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 10:03 PM To: John E Drake; Patrice Brissette (pbrisset) Cc: Ali Sajassi (sajassi); bess@ietf.org Subject: RE: [bess] Handshaking among PEs in an EVPN ES based

Re: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-etree

Support Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Martin Vigoureux > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 3:22 PM > To: bess@ietf.org > Cc: draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-et...@tools.ietf.org > Subject: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-sajass

Re: [bess] One question about 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02'

, John From: Haoweiguo [mailto:haowei...@huawei.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:08 AM To: Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge); saja...@cisco.com; John E Drake Cc: bess@ietf.org Subject: RE: [bess] One question about 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02' Jorge, Understood, many thanks. Now that t

Re: [bess] One question about 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02'

Weiguo, You're welcome. Yours Irrespectively, John From: Haoweiguo [mailto:haowei...@huawei.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 8:17 PM To: John E Drake; Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge); saja...@cisco.com Cc: bess@ietf.org Subject: RE: [bess] One question about 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-

Re: [bess] One question about 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02'

sday, November 12, 2015 3:39 AM > To: bess@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [bess] One question about 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02' > > HI John, Weiguo, > > John E Drake : > > > > It is needed in order to distinguish between an advertising node that > > only

Re: [bess] One question about 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02'

ecifies a feasible tunnel." We hope this is satisfactory. Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: Thomas Morin [mailto:thomas.mo...@orange.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:08 AM > To: John E Drake; bess@ietf.org > Cc: Eric Rosen > Sub

Re: [bess] [Idr] One question about 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02' and draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps-00

#x27; and draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps-00 Yes, kindly for backward compatibility. Having two ways to do it is a pain for the implementation. Lucy From: thomas.mo...@orange.com<mailto:thomas.mo...@orange.com> [mailto:thomas.mo...@orange.com] Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 2:19 PM To: Gunter Van

  1   2   >