Re: mod_perl for n00bs

2012-06-05 Thread Bill Stephenson
On Jun 5, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Mark Haney wrote: > > Honestly, it's really not even that complicated. I've been hearing that > using CGI.pm is 'outdated', 'uncool', whatever you want to call it. And > generally speaking the statement after that is about mod_perl. > > My entire reason behind aski

Re: mod_perl for n00bs

2012-06-05 Thread 'lesleyb'
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 08:37:33AM -0400, Mark Haney wrote: > On 06/04/2012 09:25 PM, pangj wrote: > > > >>I want to understand why Mark thinks he needs mod_perl. If it's just > >>because he wants to speed up his app (soup up the engine) there might > >>be things he can do that don't require rewrit

Re: mod_perl for n00bs

2012-06-05 Thread Mark Haney
On 06/04/2012 09:25 PM, pangj wrote: I want to understand why Mark thinks he needs mod_perl. If it's just because he wants to speed up his app (soup up the engine) there might be things he can do that don't require rewriting a lot of code, or spending a lot of time learning a lot of new ways of

Re: mod_perl for n00bs

2012-06-04 Thread pangj
I want to understand why Mark thinks he needs mod_perl. If it's just because he wants to speed up his app (soup up the engine) there might be things he can do that don't require rewriting a lot of code, or spending a lot of time learning a lot of new ways of doing things. Me second. If the

Re: mod_perl for n00bs

2012-06-04 Thread Bill Stephenson
On Jun 4, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Chris Nehren wrote: >> >> Well, from all I've read and been told is that mod_perl is a better >> fit than using CGI.pm like I've been doing. > > Erg. CGI.pm is a terrible idea--runtime string eval and all that > silliness. Well, again, I disagree with that. This cam

Re: mod_perl for n00bs

2012-06-04 Thread Chris Nehren
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 11:36:21 -0400 , Mark Haney wrote: > On 06/04/2012 09:57 AM, Chris Nehren wrote: > > > > >Erg. CGI.pm is a terrible idea--runtime string eval and all that > >silliness. Please investigate one of the lighter Plack/PSGI frameworks > >like Dancer and Web::Simple. Really, mod_p

Re: mod_perl for n00bs

2012-06-04 Thread Mark Haney
On 06/04/2012 09:57 AM, Chris Nehren wrote: Erg. CGI.pm is a terrible idea--runtime string eval and all that silliness. Please investigate one of the lighter Plack/PSGI frameworks like Dancer and Web::Simple. Really, mod_perl is the wrong tool for the job here. It's for writing Apache modules w

Re: mod_perl for n00bs

2012-06-04 Thread Chris Nehren
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 08:42:43 -0400 , Mark Haney wrote: > On 06/03/2012 07:30 PM, Chris Nehren wrote: > > >Don't, unless you're writing Apache modules in Perl. There are much > >better choices for doing web dev in Perl, like Catalyst, Dancer, > >Web::Simple, etc., which all use Plack/PSGI. Thes

Re: mod_perl for n00bs

2012-06-04 Thread Mark Haney
On 06/03/2012 07:30 PM, Chris Nehren wrote: Don't, unless you're writing Apache modules in Perl. There are much better choices for doing web dev in Perl, like Catalyst, Dancer, Web::Simple, etc., which all use Plack/PSGI. These can all be deployed on any web server. Well, from all I've read a

Re: mod_perl for n00bs

2012-06-03 Thread pangj
There are some books listed there: http://perl.apache.org/docs/offsite/books.html#Books_mentioning_mod_perl Also you may want to join the modperl mailing list, that's an active list with many MP developers there. http://perl.apache.org/maillist/modperl.html Regards. What is the best book/tu

Re: mod_perl for n00bs

2012-06-03 Thread Chris Nehren
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 17:35:05 -0400 , Mark Haney wrote: > What is the best book/tutorial/site/documentation out there to get > someone up to speed on mod_perl? I've looked around including the > apache site and I've put together bits and pieces, but I certainly > don't think I'm getting the who

mod_perl for n00bs

2012-06-03 Thread Mark Haney
What is the best book/tutorial/site/documentation out there to get someone up to speed on mod_perl? I've looked around including the apache site and I've put together bits and pieces, but I certainly don't think I'm getting the whole story. Best practices and so on. Money isn't an object, so