Re: seek/tell usage

2007-12-12 Thread Dr.Ruud
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Re: seek/tell usage

2007-12-11 Thread reader
John W.Krahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > After the module name, which has to be a bareword, must follow a > *list*, which cannot be barewords. My post had a typo in it .. again: use Fcntl ':seek'; it should have said and in fact is how I have been experimenting with it. I'm not sure what I di

Re: seek/tell usage

2007-12-11 Thread John W . Krahn
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 15:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > John W.Krahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > On Tuesday 11 December 2007 14:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> John W.Krahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > > >> > use Fcntl ':seek'; > >> > > >> > seek FILE, -100, SEEK_END or

Re: seek/tell usage

2007-12-11 Thread reader
John W.Krahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tuesday 11 December 2007 14:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> John W.Krahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > >> > use Fcntl ':seek'; >> > >> > seek FILE, -100, SEEK_END or die "Cannot seek on './myfile' $!"; >> >> Still seeing something I don't underst

Re: seek/tell usage

2007-12-11 Thread Jenda Krynicky
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Using perldoc -q tail > leading to > perldoc -f seek > perldoc -f tell > > I'm not getting how to use those functions. Partly because what > passes for examples in those docs doesn't use normal language, instead > they use terms like WHENCE, something that's almost never

Re: seek/tell usage

2007-12-11 Thread John W . Krahn
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 14:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > John W.Krahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > use Fcntl ':seek'; > > > > seek FILE, -100, SEEK_END or die "Cannot seek on './myfile' $!"; > > Still seeing something I don't understand. Using a working version > of the code I posted

Re: seek/tell usage

2007-12-11 Thread John W . Krahn
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 12:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > John W.Krahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Perl programmers usually frown on the use of CamelCase variable > > names. > > Do you know wy perl programmers prefer same case variable names? That is not what I said. In any case, se

Re: seek/tell usage

2007-12-11 Thread reader
John W.Krahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > use Fcntl ':seek'; > > seek FILE, -100, SEEK_END or die "Cannot seek on './myfile' $!"; Still seeing something I don't understand. Using a working version of the code I posted (included at the end) telling seek to go to 100 bytes before the byte count a

Re: seek/tell usage

2007-12-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 02:57:02PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > John W.Krahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Perl programmers usually frown on the use of CamelCase variable names. > Do you know wy perl programmers prefer same case variable names? I suspect the answer to that is to be foun

Re: seek/tell usage

2007-12-11 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:05:13 -0800 John W.Krahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > This shows the influence that the C programming language has on Perl. > for (;;) { ... } is used in C for an infinite loop. In Perl you could > also write that as while (1) { ... }. Minor quibble: 'while (1)

Re: seek/tell usage

2007-12-11 Thread Paul Lalli
On Dec 11, 3:21 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Whiners are just not worth the effort. Might have done well to just > hold your tongue right along. Its puzzling why you didn't. You just answered your own question. I didn't bother giving you any explicit advice because half of your post was whi

Re: seek/tell usage

2007-12-11 Thread reader
John W.Krahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > man 2 lseek > [ SNIP ] > NOTES >This document's use of whence is incorrect English, but >maintained for historical reasons. OK, I see how having used WHERE in the perldoc stuff would be out of step with what its all based on. >> Even

Re: seek/tell usage

2007-12-11 Thread reader
Paul Lalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Read > perldoc -f open > for how to open a file in read/write mode. Always amazes me when someone so taken with themselves as you seem to be finds time to write a lengthy point by point rebuttal to a non-debating post but fails to SHOW where the code is w

Re: seek/tell usage

2007-12-11 Thread John W . Krahn
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 10:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Using perldoc -q tail > leading to > perldoc -f seek > perldoc -f tell > > I'm not getting how to use those functions. Partly because what > passes for examples in those docs doesn't use normal language, > instead they use terms like

Re: seek/tell usage

2007-12-11 Thread Martin Barth
ahh I am sorry! all my fault! I didn't see that line and I started searching for the meaning of WHENCE after the Constants are explained. oups! Regards. Martin On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:40:24 -0500 "Chas. Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 11, 2007 2:32 PM, Martin Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: seek/tell usage

2007-12-11 Thread Chas. Owens
On Dec 11, 2007 2:32 PM, Martin Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:28:01 -0500 > "Chas. Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The seek function has three ways of measuring what the second argument > > means: > > 0: move relative the beginning of the file > > 1: move relati

Re: seek/tell usage

2007-12-11 Thread Martin Barth
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:28:01 -0500 "Chas. Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The seek function has three ways of measuring what the second argument means: > 0: move relative the beginning of the file > 1: move relative to the current position in the file > 2: move relative to the end of the file

Re: seek/tell usage

2007-12-11 Thread Paul Lalli
On Dec 11, 1:22 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Using perldoc -q tail > leading to > perldoc -f seek > perldoc -f tell > > I'm not getting how to use those functions. There's a lot of things you're not getting, actually... >for (;;) { >for ($curpos = tel

Re: seek/tell usage

2007-12-11 Thread Chas. Owens
On Dec 11, 2007 2:28 PM, Chas. Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > Whence is actually proper English. You may not here it often, but snip Hear, not here. See what I mean about declining standards? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: seek/tell usage

2007-12-11 Thread Chas. Owens
On Dec 11, 2007 1:22 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Using perldoc -q tail > leading to > perldoc -f seek > perldoc -f tell > > I'm not getting how to use those functions. Partly because what > passes for examples in those docs doesn't use normal language, instead > they use terms like WHENCE, s

Re: seek/tell usage

2007-12-11 Thread Martin Barth
i hope i can clarify what whence means: snip For WHENCE you may use the constants "SEEK_SET", "SEEK_CUR", and "SEEK_END" (start of the file, current position, end of the file) from the Fcntl module. snip whence descripes from where you start counting bytes: if you use "SE