Re: Perl projects for beginners

From: "Gabor Szabo" To: "Octavian Râsnita" Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:59 PM Subject: Re: Perl projects for beginners On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Octavian Râsnita wrote: From: "Gabor Szabo" Could you please tell us what does PDK give

Re: Perl projects for beginners

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Octavian Râsnita wrote: > From: "Gabor Szabo" >> >> Could you please tell us what does PDK give you? > > PDK doesn't extract the files with the perl source code and for most cases > this protection is enough. > It creates smaller files than PAR and it gives less e

Re: Perl projects for beginners

From: "Gabor Szabo" Could you please tell us what does PDK give you? PDK doesn't extract the files with the perl source code and for most cases this protection is enough. It creates smaller files than PAR and it gives less errors. Octavian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@

Re: Perl projects for beginners

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Octavian Râsnita wrote: > I use ActivePerl and not > Strawberry. I've tried Strawberry Perl but I found very many modules I > couldn't install with it, the PPM under that distro of Perl has less > features than ActiveState's one, I also need ActiveState PDK that a

Re: Perl projects for beginners

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Bob McConnell wrote: > Jeesh, I go away for a long weekend and miss a significant conversation. > Has anyone tried to imagine a "World of PerlCraft" game. Hmm, on that idea, it might be nice to setup a list of projects where some of the core members will be ready

RE: Perl projects for beginners

From: Raymond Wan > > I didn't think my comments would have piqued your interest so much. :-) > Well, we're off-topic from Perl, but let me add just the following: > > fudmer rieley wrote: >> The need is for a problem book with real explained answers [producing >> such a problem book would be

Re: Perl projects for beginners

From: "Gabor Szabo" On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Octavian Râsnita wrote: From: "Gabor Szabo" As in many of the project the core developers are usually more Linux/OSX people and the beginners will tend to be more Windows people, one will have to go the extra miles and explain in terms that

Re: Perl projects for beginners

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Octavian Râsnita wrote: > From: "Gabor Szabo" >> >> As in many of the project the core developers >> are usually more Linux/OSX people and the beginners will tend to be more >> Windows people, one will have to go the extra miles and explain in terms >> that make se

Re: Perl projects for beginners

From: "Gabor Szabo" As in many of the project the core developers are usually more Linux/OSX people and the beginners will tend to be more Windows people, one will have to go the extra miles and explain in terms that make sense on windows. If done correctly and documents are generated from these

Re: Perl projects for beginners

Thank you, all of you for your input! I think you made very interesting and valuable points, many of which I have not thought earlier. Actually I was hoping to get the responses of beginners to understand their POV but the input of the others was also interesting. My objectives are two-fold. 1) u

Re: Perl projects for beginners

Hi Fudmer, I didn't think my comments would have piqued your interest so much. :-) Well, we're off-topic from Perl, but let me add just the following: fudmer rieley wrote: The need is for a problem book with real explained answers [producing such a problem book would be a massive underta

Re: Perl projects for beginners

Hi Tim, Tim Bowden wrote: I think some (of course, not all) universities would teach a language or programming first by getting students to work alone. And then a year or two later, put them into groups and then that's when the teachers go nuts. :-) I wonder if it's not time well spent t

Re: Perl projects for beginners

Gabor Szabo wrote: in a blog post http://szabgab.com/blog/2009/09/1251862435.html I recently asked how to make a project beginner friendly. The best answer I got was to ask the beginners. Clever :-) So let me ask it on this list. As I think think the best way to learn Perl is tor practice a lo

Re: Perl projects for beginners

fudmer rieley wrote: Teaching like this needs to become open source and be available for no charge and it needs to be created by those who are still learning. The knowledge involved in Instructional design is a Phd in and of its self. Perhaps you should start a FLOSS Manual,

Re: Perl projects for beginners

perl mentor to lead this for the sometimes before beginners can get it right especially for non computer scientist. Goke On 9/7/09, fudmer rieley wrote: > > > --- On Mon, 9/7/09, fudmer rieley wrote: > > From: fudmer rieley > Subject: Re: Perl projects for beginners > To:

Re: Perl projects for beginners

--- On Mon, 9/7/09, fudmer rieley wrote: From: fudmer rieley Subject: Re: Perl projects for beginners To: beginners@perl.org Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 7:42 AM --- On Mon, 9/7/09, fudmer rieley wrote: From: fudmer rieley Subject: Re: Perl projects for beginners To: "Raymon

Re: Perl projects for beginners

--- On Mon, 9/7/09, fudmer rieley wrote: From: fudmer rieley Subject: Re: Perl projects for beginners To: "Raymond Wan" Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 6:57 AM The need is for a problem book with real explained answers  [producing such a problem book  would be a massive u

Re: Perl projects for beginners

--- On Mon, 9/7/09, Gabor Szabo wrote: From: Gabor Szabo Subject: Re: Perl projects for beginners To: "fudmer rieley" Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 7:20 AM please post this to the list Gabor On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:12 PM, fudmer rieley wrote: > Besides the Instructional

Re: Perl projects for beginners

On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 18:12 +0900, Raymond Wan wrote: > Hi Gabor, > > > Gabor Szabo wrote: > > As I think think the best way to learn Perl is tor practice a lot > > and the best place to practice is an open source project I wonder > > how can open source project become more beginner friendly? >

Re: Perl projects for beginners

Hi Gabor, Gabor Szabo wrote: As I think think the best way to learn Perl is tor practice a lot and the best place to practice is an open source project I wonder how can open source project become more beginner friendly? Follow-up to Philip's message...but I didn't reply to his post since I

Re: Perl projects for beginners

Hi Gabor. So far, in my quest to learn perl, it's been pretty easy to learn how to program basic applications, that perform simple functions using modules from CPAN. I think beginners would greatly benefit from learning how to write their OWN perl module to aid in performing a task. This would pr

Re: Perl projects for beginners

2009/9/7 Gabor Szabo : > Hi, > > in a blog post http://szabgab.com/blog/2009/09/1251862435.html > I recently asked how to make a project beginner friendly. > The best answer I got was to ask the beginners. Clever :-) > > So let me ask it on this list. > > As I think think the best way to learn Perl