RE: Question for this Group ... dont flame me :)

2003-12-14 Thread Jenda Krynicky
From: Jeff Westman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Guay_Jean-Sébastien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > b) As new need arises in your program, using a module gives you > > access to other functionality which you would have to (again) write > > yourself if you were not unsing a module. > > But would you agree,

Re: Question for this Group ... dont flame me :)

2003-12-12 Thread drieux
On Dec 12, 2003, at 10:42 AM, drieux wrote: [..] Yes, and No. Again the presumption here is that we are discussing at the 'professional obligations level' and not at the academic/hobby level. [..] Drieux! You KankerousBoilOnTheBottomSideOfYourSithLord! That whole academic v. professional issue is

Re: Question for this Group ... dont flame me :)

2003-12-12 Thread drieux
On Dec 12, 2003, at 8:23 AM, Guay Jean-Sébastien wrote: [..] Perhaps the "real" Perl distribution differs from ActiveState Perl on what modules it includes by default? [..] I think the OP has the 'imaginary' Perl distribution. Cold out of the wrappers the default installation for various vendor su

Re: Question for this Group ... dont flame me :)

2003-12-12 Thread drieux
On Dec 12, 2003, at 7:25 AM, Jeff Westman wrote: [..] p0: most of the cool arguments have been generally made. my kvetching here will therefore be the less cool stuff. So, installing a module is out-of-the-question. In my case, I am basically "stuck" with the perl [5.8] default libraries and module

RE: Question for this Group ... dont flame me :)

2003-12-12 Thread Guay Jean-Sébastien
> I don't know if this [specific] module is "standard" > or not, but it was already installed on the servers, > so I am guessing it is. I don't think it is, or at least it wasn't installed by doing a full install of ActiveState Perl 5.8 in my case. Perhaps the "real" Perl distribution differs fr

RE: Question for this Group ... dont flame me :)

2003-12-12 Thread Jeff Westman
Guay_Jean-Sébastien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > These answers are of course my own experience, but may be significant to > understand the bigger picture. I reorder your points a bit in my reply :-) No problem :) > > So, why is it that most of the solutions represented > > in this group tend t

Re: Question for this Group ... dont flame me :)

2003-12-12 Thread Wiggins d Anconia
FLAME! FLAME! ;-)... > Question for this group. And please don't flame me for asking this. > > Often times one writes in, asking how to do something fairly trivial, > such as a date conversion from a non-standard format, or doing something > else not require too much overhead. The problem,

RE: Question for this Group ... dont flame me :)

2003-12-12 Thread Tom Kinzer
btw Jeff, good post. I think this will stimulate a good conversation. This is a common problem with lots of different workarounds. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Jeff Westman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 7:26 AM To: perl_help Subject: Question for this Gro

RE: Question for this Group ... dont flame me :)

2003-12-12 Thread Guay Jean-Sébastien
Hello Jeff, These answers are of course my own experience, but may be significant to understand the bigger picture. I reorder your points a bit in my reply :-) > So, why is it that most of the solutions represented > in this group tend to point to a CPAN module when > the code for it isn't that

Re: Question for this Group ... dont flame me :)

2003-12-12 Thread Rob Dixon
Jeff Westman wrote: > > Question for this group. And please don't flame me for asking this. > > Often times one writes in, asking how to do something fairly trivial, > such as a date conversion from a non-standard format, or doing something > else not require too much overhead. When asked for adv

RE: Question for this Group ... dont flame me :)

2003-12-12 Thread Tom Kinzer
Well, I'm a professional Perl developer. I have also been in your position before Jeff. I can say that it is just a "best practice" to always use a module. It's just smart to reuse modular code. 1) it saves building work 2) it's already tested 3) it's already documented 4) in many cases it's su

Re: Question for this Group ... dont flame me :)

2003-12-12 Thread Daniel Staal
--As off Friday, December 12, 2003 7:25 AM -0800, Jeff Westman is alleged to have said: So, why is it that most of the solutions represented in this group tend to point to a CPAN module when the code for it isn't that hard (usually) to write? I'm not sure if using modules is a matter of "conven