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On Fri, 13 May 2016 13:20:15 +
"Walker, Michael E" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What framework are you all using for database development? When
> tracking this thread back to the original message, I thought, "Nice
> syntax." I am overall new to Perl, but am learn
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On Fri, 23 May 2014 15:52:11 -0700
Jim Gibson wrote:
> Use the 'use warnings;' pragma in your program instead of '-w' on the
> first line. That way, you can control which messages are issued.
>
Some modules have to do unsafe things to get the job done; it's the
only way. But they do have the co
Please post messages to the list, not to me personally. That way, you will get
better answers sooner.
On May 23, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Sherman Willden wrote:
> Thank you, Jim;
>
> How do I get rid of the warning message without getting rid of the -w switch?
Use the 'use warnings;' pragma in your p
print pi * 2, "\n";
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Sherman Willden
wrote:
> Disclaimer: I am 67 and not in school. I am doing this for my own
> satisfaction.
>
> How do I get a new line at the end of a non-quoted text. I am doing the
> following:
> Use Math::Trig;
On May 23, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Sherman Willden wrote:
> Disclaimer: I am 67 and not in school. I am doing this for my own
> satisfaction.
>
> How do I get a new line at the end of a non-quoted text. I am doing the
> following:
> Use Math::Trig;
> print pi * 2;
> print
Disclaimer: I am 67 and not in school. I am doing this for my own
satisfaction.
How do I get a new line at the end of a non-quoted text. I am doing the
following:
Use Math::Trig;
print pi * 2;
print "\n";
How do I get the new line on the same line of code?
I could do my $my_pi_time
porarily allow" . . .
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
> On 3/23/2014 9:45 PM, beginners-digest-h...@perl.org wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I'm brand new to Perl. I'm reading perldoc and working through Simon
> >Cozens online
> >book to get me started. Even t
as a browser.
>
>When you see "This site requires Javascript", click
>on "options" in the lower right, go to the bottom
>of the list, and select "Temporarily allow" . . .
>
>
>
>Mike
>
>
>On 3/23/2014 9:45 PM, beginners-digest-h...@perl.
, go to the bottom
of the list, and select "Temporarily allow" . . .
Mike
On 3/23/2014 9:45 PM, beginners-digest-h...@perl.org wrote:
Hi,
I'm brand new to Perl. I'm reading perldoc and working through Simon Cozens
online
book to get me started. Even though it is 14
ty issues). The mentionning "required
> Javascript" is the browser-side one. As far as I know, Perl is more used as
> a server-side language.
>
>
>
> S�bastien
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Maurice McCarthy
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
s
a server-side language.
Sébastien
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Maurice McCarthy wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm brand new to Perl. I'm reading perldoc and working through Simon
> Cozens online
> book to get me started. Even though it is 14 years old and some syntax has
&g
Hi,
I'm brand new to Perl. I'm reading perldoc and working through Simon Cozens
online
book to get me started. Even though it is 14 years old and some syntax has
changed
in the meantime, figuring out how to make the operations work is getting me into
perl.
At present I've got
t;prod" or "test"
2. Get the input values for new hostnames that will be added to the config
along with it's contactgroups and tag_criticality values.
3. Add the new hostnames along with it's contactgroups and tag_criticality
values passed as input values to the script.
Hi Jim,
The format of the config file is like this:
*Config file example1:* For one host in this case named hostname1 belonging
to 4 contactgroups (group1 to group4),
< begin config file example 1 >
host_contactgroups += [
( 'group1', ['hostname1'] ),
( 'group2', ['h
On Mar 3, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Wernher Eksteen wrote:
> Hi Shlomi,
>
> Thank you for the pointers. I do want to learn Python as well when I get a
> chance. This "framework" I'm writing now will automate things to a great
> extend eventually freeing up loads of my daily operations time so I can fo
on based web
> front
> > end tool. I would like to add/remove hosts to/from this config file using
> > Perl.
> >
> > The idea I have is for Perl to read this config file, and instead of
> > adding/replcing values to the original config file, to re-write the
>
file using
> Perl.
>
> The idea I have is for Perl to read this config file, and instead of
> adding/replcing values to the original config file, to re-write the config
> file with the
> latest hostname that was added or removed to a new config file in the same
> format so tha
values to the original config file, to re-write the config
file with the
latest hostname that was added or removed to a new config file in the same
format so that the Python based web tool can read it.
This exceeds my knowledge of Perl at the moment and hope I can learn the
ways from the Perl Masters
ing trouble with a date,
> > they were using ANSI Date a variant of the Julian Date originally from
> > Cobol (yep that old - and still in the latest OS)
> >
> > So what I did is plain simple I created a new Perl module and added to
> > the DateTime::Format::Epoch locally
t of the Julian Date originally from
> Cobol (yep that old - and still in the latest OS)
>
> So what I did is plain simple I created a new Perl module and added to
> the DateTime::Format::Epoch locally so every time my code runs it would
> find it out.
>
> Now I want to make
id is plain simple I created a new Perl module and added to
the DateTime::Format::Epoch locally so every time my code runs it would
find it out.
Now I want to make it available for the community, you never know when
is going to be used.
So my questions,
- what's the next step?
I started a m
Another nice beginners site and a great weekly perl digest list to
subscribe to:
What's new on the Perl Beginners' Site <http://bit.ly/SyaFxg>
Shlomi Fish maintains the http://Perl-Begin.org site, an alternative to the
'official' learn.perl.org site. Once in a while he
ish wrote:
> The last update on the news feed for [http://perl-begin.org/ The Perl
> Beginners’s site] was almost a year ago. While the site continued to improve,
> I neglected writing a new entry until now, so I hope this one will compensate
> for that.
>
> So without further
The last update on the news feed for [http://perl-begin.org/ The Perl
Beginners’s site] was almost a year ago. While the site continued to improve, I
neglected writing a new entry until now, so I hope this one will compensate for
that.
So without further ado, here is what is new:
# We now
please always put a proper subject in your emails. i can't help with
excel stuff but i can't know to skip this email because the subject
didn't say that.
thanx,
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I am writing a script to pull data from a spreadsheet and use it in an array.
the code looks like this:
@{$sheet->{Cells}[$row]};
my @indexes = (2 .. (2+4-1));
my @dcells = @{$sheet->{Cells}[$row]}[@indexes];
open FILE, ">>feckyou.txt";
I am using this code to try to access certain columns in a spreadsheet to load
into an array for comparison
@{$sheet->{Cells}[$row]};
my @indexes = (2 .. (2+4-1));
my @dcells = @{$sheet->{Cells}[$row]
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:35 PM, Jim Gibson wrote:
> At 4:08 PM +0800 4/2/12, lina wrote:
>>
>> I wish there is an alternative way in linux without installing use
>> Mail::Sendmail;
>>
>> on bash I used
>>
>> mail lina.lastn...@gmail.com < report.txt
>
>
> If that works for you on your system, the
At 4:08 PM +0800 4/2/12, lina wrote:
I wish there is an alternative way in linux without installing use
Mail::Sendmail;
on bash I used
mail lina.lastn...@gmail.com < report.txt
If that works for you on your system, then just execute the same
thing using system:
system('mail lina.lastn...@
I wish there is an alternative way in linux without installing use
Mail::Sendmail;
on bash I used
mail lina.lastn...@gmail.com < report.txt
Thanks,
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:07 PM, lina wrote:
> Thanks now better. Just the send email still not work. With
> Mail::Sendmail installed.
>
> sendma
Thanks now better. Just the send email still not work. With
Mail::Sendmail installed.
sendmail(
From=> 'lina.lastn...@gmail.com',
To => 'lina.lastn...@gmail.com',
Subject => 'Step coming close',
Message => "Dangerous",
);
Do I need set up something extra?
>
>
>
> John
> -
lina wrote:
Hi,
Hello,
At some directory, I wish to check are there some new file generated with
step*
if no new generated, I wish it sleep for a while
if there are some new files generated, I wish it to send am email to myself.
Here is what I have came up so far,
#!/usr/bin/env perl
Hi,
At some directory, I wish to check are there some new file generated with
step*
if no new generated, I wish it sleep for a while
if there are some new files generated, I wish it to send am email to myself.
Here is what I have came up so far,
#!/usr/bin/env perl
use strict;
use warnings
On 01/13/2012 07:25 PM, Parag Kalra wrote:
my $obj = FooBar->new;
$obj->{'new_key'} = 'some_value'
Now I am not sure if that is the correct way of inserting a new data
structure into an already bless reference
1. FooBar may or may not be implemented as a hashref.
On 12-01-13 10:25 PM, Parag Kalra wrote:
The simplest way I thought of expressing this question is through
Pseudo-script so here it is:
use strict;
use warnings;
use FooBar;
my $obj = FooBar->new;
Do something
...
$obj->{'new_key'} = 'some_value'
No
于 2012-1-14 11:25, Parag Kalra 写道:
use FooBar;
my $obj = FooBar->new;
Do something
...
$obj->{'new_key'} = 'some_value'
Now I am not sure if that is the correct way of inserting a new data
structure into an already bless reference
I don't thin
The simplest way I thought of expressing this question is through
Pseudo-script so here it is:
use strict;
use warnings;
use FooBar;
my $obj = FooBar->new;
Do something
...
$obj->{'new_key'} = 'some_value'
Now I am not sure if that is the correct w
> "Ken" == Ken Peng writes:
Ken> I am 33 years old. Can I have the chance to see Perl6's official
Ken> stable release in my left life?
Nobody is ever going to declare Perl 6 "Stable". It will always be a
moving target. Much the same way that Perl 5 is now... Perl 5 is hardly
"stable". :)
On 2011-12-15 22:53, Rajeev Prasad wrote:
perl5 is dead end
OTOH, Perl 5 is alive and kicking.
See for example:
http://www.perlfoundation.org/
http://www.slideshare.net/Tim.Bunce/perl-myths-200909
http://www.booking.com/hotel/de/sonnenhof-perl.en.html
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On 12/15/2011 11:34 PM, abhay vyas wrote:
Which book of Llama are you reading?
pls tell me the title as I am also on same page as yors.
I read "Learning Perl", 2 e., ~13 years ago.
David
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On Dec 16, 3:39 pm, short...@gmail.com (Ken Peng) wrote:
> 2011/12/16 Shlomi Fish :
>
> > Regarding Perl 6 - you are right that it is taking a long time, and that
> > some
> > people feel its implementations are not usable for them yet. But it doesn't
> > mean you can't use Perl 5 now, or that Per
On Friday, December 16, 2011 at 09:18 , Mark Tiesman wrote:
> Not to sound like I am complaining, but aren't we kind of wondering of
> my original topic? I will say that Perl 5 is the road I need to travel
> since it is heavily utilized here at the University.
>
Yes, parts of the discussion ha
Not to sound like I am complaining, but aren't we kind of wondering of
my original topic? I will say that Perl 5 is the road I need to travel
since it is heavily utilized here at the University.
I do want to say thank you for the links at other reading
recommendations that have been provided
Hi Rob,
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 22:27:22 +
Rob Dixon wrote:
> Decades of programming in many languages have convinced me that Perl
> excels in every aspect. But I have to agree with Rajeev that Perl 6 has
> become a theory and needs evidence of practical application.
>
> In my mind there is no
2011/12/16 Shlomi Fish :
> Regarding Perl 6 - you are right that it is taking a long time, and that some
> people feel its implementations are not usable for them yet. But it doesn't
> mean you can't use Perl 5 now, or that Perl 6 will never be ready, or that it
> didn't have a positive influence
27;t have a positive influence on Perl 5.
>
> for a new person, this could mean less confidence in perl and more interest
> towards php etc...
> ty.
Well, I still think it turned out that it wasn't a good idea to call Perl 6,
"Perl 6", but it's too la
On 12/15/2011 07:54 AM, Mark Tiesman wrote:
Hi all. I recently started a job that at some point is going to require
me knowing and using Perl. I am pretty green as a programmer and need
some guidance to get me going on the right foot. Currently I am reading
the Llama book to grease the skids so
?
>
> Rob
>
> On 15/12/2011 21:53, Rajeev Prasad wrote:
>> Shlomi,
>>
>> all of you said is correct, but some may get a negative impression.
>> it shows as if perl5 and perl 6 are two very different. perl5 is dead
>> end (coz perl 6 is not like 5), per
nd perl 6 are two very different. perl5 is dead
> end (coz perl 6 is not like 5), perl6 which is in making for so long
> is still not ready.
>
> for a new person, this could mean less confidence in perl and more
> interest towards php etc...
>
> ty.
> Rajeev
>
> From: Shlom
>
> for a new person, this could mean less confidence in perl and more
> interest towards php etc...
> ty.
> Rajeev
>
Hi Rajeev,
The idea is not to curry favour with one language or another, but help a
person get on with what they're doing. If Mark needs to know Perl for h
Shlomi,
all of you said is correct, but some may get a negative impression. it shows as
if perl5 and perl 6 are two very different. perl5 is dead end (coz perl 6 is
not like 5), perl6 which is in making for so long is still not ready.
for a new person, this could mean less confidence in perl
Hi Rajeev,
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 15:20:24 -0500
Brendan wrote:
> How quickly Perl 6 knowledge can be put to good use probably depends on where
> you work. I don't think there are many businesses where they are looking to
> convert their Perl 5 code to Perl 6 in the immediate future.
>
Rajeev
re, you should start by reading Rakudo etc. i.e.
>perl6
>
>
>
>
> From: Mark Tiesman
>To: beginners@perl.org
>Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:54 AM
>Subject: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User
>
>Hi all. I recently started
Mark,
i think with an eye on future, you should start by reading Rakudo etc. i.e.
perl6
From: Mark Tiesman
To: beginners@perl.org
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:54 AM
Subject: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User
Hi all. I recently started a job
Here are some new videos:
http://szabgab.com/perl_tutorial.html
The standard stuff is here:
http://www.perl.org/learn.html
http://learn.perl.org/first_steps/<http://learn.perl.org/>
And this is what I was originally looking for:
http://perl-tutorial.org/
It's a curated list of tut
shlomi,
Thanks for the link. I have bookmarked:-)
On 12/15/2011 11:56 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote:
Hi Mark,
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:54:17 -0600
Mark Tiesman wrote:
Hi all. I recently started a job that at some point is going to require
me knowing and using Perl. I am pretty green as a programmer
Hi Mark,
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:54:17 -0600
Mark Tiesman wrote:
> Hi all. I recently started a job that at some point is going to require
> me knowing and using Perl. I am pretty green as a programmer and need
> some guidance to get me going on the right foot. Currently I am reading
> the
The Learning Perl by Randal Schwartz Video series is a nice intro:
http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920014430.do
Along with the companion book Learning Perl (6ed):
http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920018452.do
Lynda.com also offers Perl 5 Essential Training by Bill Weinman:
http://www.lyn
On 2011-12-15 16:54, Mark Tiesman wrote:
general information on learning to program and Perl
How to Perl:
http://learn.perl.org/
which mentions:
http://learn.perl.org/books/
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On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Agnello George
wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Mark Tiesman
> wrote:
> > Hi all. I recently started a job that at some point is going to require
> me
> > knowing and using Perl. I am pretty green as
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Mark Tiesman
wrote:
> Hi all. I recently started a job that at some point is going to require me
> knowing and using Perl. I am pretty green as a programmer and need some
> guidance to get me going on the right foot. Currently I am reading the
> Llama book to gr
2011/12/15 Mark Tiesman
> Hi all. I recently started a job that at some point is going to require
> me knowing and using Perl. I am pretty green as a programmer and need some
> guidance to get me going on the right foot. Currently I am reading the
> Llama book to grease the skids so to speak,
perlmonks.org is a good site.
regards... /om
On Dec 15, 2011, at 21:38, Mark Tiesman wrote:
> Thanks Frank. I'll add that to my list. ;-)
>
> Mark
>
> On 12/15/2011 10:07 AM, frank cui wrote:
>> I found Perl By Example 4th Edition book pretty help, and you may want to
>> give a look on tha
Thanks Frank. I'll add that to my list. ;-)
Mark
On 12/15/2011 10:07 AM, frank cui wrote:
I found Perl By Example 4th Edition book pretty help, and you may want
to give a look on that one.
Frank
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Mark Tiesman
mailto:mark.ties...@doit.wisc.edu>> wrote:
Hi all. I recently started a job that at some point is going to require
me knowing and using Perl. I am pretty green as a programmer and need
some guidance to get me going on the right foot. Currently I am reading
the Llama book to grease the skids so to speak, but am looking for
addition ad
On Dec 1, 6:43 am, whereismel...@gmail.com (Melvin) wrote:
> Hi I have a file in the following format
>
> 111
> 222
> 333
>
> Now I need to print the following output from the given input file as
> 111 222 333
>
The versatile File::Slurp can be a handy shortcut:
# File::Slurp will croak if there'
Thanks a lot Rob.
"chomp" command did the job as you suggested.
Also, to add I manually did it in gvim using the "j" in command mode.
Thanks,
Melvin
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 3:14 AM, Rob Dixon wrote:
> On 01/12/2011 14:43, Melvin wrote:
>
>> Hi I have a file in the following format
>>
>> 111
>>
Melvin wrote:
Hi I have a file in the following format
111
222
333
Now I need to print the following output from the given input file as
111 222 333
$ echo "111
222
333" | perl -l040pe1
111 222 333
Is there a way I can do this in perl?
I tried 2 ways (both ere essentially the same)
1) Par
On 01/12/2011 14:43, Melvin wrote:
Hi I have a file in the following format
111
222
333
Now I need to print the following output from the given input file as
111 222 333
Is there a way I can do this in perl?
I tried 2 ways (both ere essentially the same)
1) Parsing the file and pushing the in
Hi I have a file in the following format
111
222
333
Now I need to print the following output from the given input file as
111 222 333
Is there a way I can do this in perl?
I tried 2 ways (both ere essentially the same)
1) Parsing the file and pushing the inputs to a string array. However
since
Hi Jennifer,
replying in public. Thanks for not top posting.
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:21:38 -0430
Jennifer Maldonado wrote:
> 2011/7/21 Shlomi Fish
> > 11. We're now maintaining the sources of the Perl Beginners' Site in [a
> > bitbucket.org repository](http://perl-begin.org/source/#vcs) and the
added [a Page](http://perl-begin.org//exercises/) with links to
> **exercises and challenges**.
>
>
now I have homework to do
> 3. There's a new topical page about [Modules and
> Packages](http://perl-begin.org//topics/modules-and-packages/).
>
> 4. [A page about using Per
Hi Natal,
Replying in public (though you may opt to reply in private).
On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:12:21 +0200
Natal Ngétal wrote:
> 2011/7/21 Shlomi Fish :
> > 11. We're now maintaining the sources of the Perl Beginners' Site in [a
> > bitbucket.org repository](http://perl-begin.org/source/#vcs) an
2011/7/21 Shlomi Fish :
> http://perl-begin.org/ is a site for Perl Beginners, that aims to collect the
> Internet's best resources for learning Perl. Here are the major changes to it
> since the last update:
It's very cool.
> 1. The book [Modern Perl](http://perl-begin.org//books/#modern-perl) is
(http://perl-begin.org//tutorials/modern-perl/)
of it, under the CC-by-nc-sa licence is available on Perl-Begin, thanks to
[chromatic](http://www.modernperlbooks.com/).
2. We added [a Page](http://perl-begin.org//exercises/) with links to
**exercises and challenges**.
3. There's a new topical
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:43 PM, wrote:
> Can someone tell me, where is the fault, please? And for the case, there are
> 80 data´s in the line, is there a shorter style to find & change them?
>
You showed a slash between the numbers but mentioned earlier that the
numbers can be in any format in
> "TL" == Thomas Lingmann writes:
TL> Hi,
TL> try something like
TL> my @str = (
TL> "test [0.4\\9.0]"
TL> );
why the array for the data? if you had multiple tests, i can see that
but you only show one of them
TL> foreach (@str) {
even in simple examples it is better to u
Hi,
try something like
my @str = (
"test [0.4\\9.0]"
);
foreach (@str) {
if ( ($leaf1, $leaf2) = $_ =~ m{ (\d+\.\d)\\(\d+\.\d) }x ) {
print $leaf1, "\n";
print $leaf2, "\n";
}
}
-- Thomas
* wolken.f...@web.de [06.05.2011 20:16]:
&
On 11-05-06 02:13 PM, wolken.f...@web.de wrote:
if ($in =~ /(-?\d+\.\d)\(-?\d+\.\d)/)
Try:
if( $in =~ /(\d+\.\d+)\\(\d+\.\d+)/ )
You need two backslashes to match one.
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Confusion is the first step of understanding.
Programming is as
Hi all,
I´m new here and my English is not the best. However, I would like to get some
help for my perl-problems.
I want to write a script which is finding data´s like "0.1" or "46.7" in a
string and declare them as variables, which are to be changed and wrote back.
The st
From: "Jim Green"
> Hello,
> I wrote simple cgi scripts before but want to go further, I want to
> learn a little bit systematic web programming, I found catalyst and
> ORMs, do you guys think with those I don't need to learn javascript,
> ajax etc?
Catalyst is a web framework that help you to d
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Jim Green
wrote:
> Hello,
> I wrote simple cgi scripts before but want to go further, I want to
> learn a little bit systematic web programming, I found catalyst and
> ORMs, do you guys think with those I don't need to learn javascript,
> ajax etc?
Disclaimer: I'm
eventually your webapps are going to need some type of interface
functionality.
something really basic can be, having a checkbox that selects all the
checkboxes in a group. that kind of thing you can only do with javascript.
catalyst is going to introduce a lot of new concepts to you if youre new
Hello,
I wrote simple cgi scripts before but want to go further, I want to
learn a little bit systematic web programming, I found catalyst and
ORMs, do you guys think with those I don't need to learn javascript,
ajax etc?
Thanks!
Jim
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On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 05:28:06PM -0600, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2010, Shlomi Fish wrote:
>
> >On Monday 27 Dec 2010 21:44:05 Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote:
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >> I think it is not fair to pointing the reader out directly to Linux.
> >>There are other systems
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010, Shlomi Fish wrote:
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 02:55:32
From: Shlomi Fish
To: beginners@perl.org
Cc: Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez
Subject: Re: New Document:
"How to Start Contributing to or Using Open Source Software"
On Monday 27 Dec 2010 21:44:05 Alvaro Mantil
because it actually interests me to
> write open source software, but meh.
Well, maybe the discussion is "stupid", but it is certainly not irrelevant.
If you have an interest in open source software, then I think you will
agree that open source software isn't just about having s
ortant for the mailing list and you can impose a rule that
makes other members' life harder, say your opinion clearly and show that you
don't care about those members. I love to hear that.
> It's just too much work to try.
Much work? For what? To be able to read the new message
From: "Raymond Wan" On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 00:06, Octavian
Rasnita wrote:
> Better say that bottom-post is an old habit (and advanced programmers usually
> have old habits and not the newbies) and that the rules are enforced by the
> advanced programmers because they can help the others, and th
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Raymond Wan wrote:
> An extension to your reasoning is that there aren't just two groups of
> users on this list -- advanced and newbies -- but multiple levels.
> Beginners who don't follow the advanced programmers' rules may have
> questions that intermediate progr
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 00:06, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> Better say that bottom-post is an old habit (and advanced programmers usually
> have old habits and not the newbies) and that the rules are enforced by the
> advanced programmers because they can help the others, and they want to
> everyon
From: "Octavian Rasnita"
> From: "Jenda Krynicky"
> >> There was a period when it was OK to follow that old netiquette
> >> that said that bottom-posting is the good way, but now it isn't.
> >
> > Because you said so?
>
> Yes. Me and many others.
>
> I bottom post (on Perl - related mailing li
From: "Jenda Krynicky"
>> And by the way, there was a period when it was OK to say words like "black"
>> but now it isn't.
...
>
> And it was a much better period. Fuck newspeak and fuck political
> correctness. Rose, the same as shit, under any other name would smell
Better for who? For yo
People. Go -f>@+?*<.-&'_:$#/%! yourselves. How about some more Perl, and a
lot less fucking drama?
At least be original (or copypaste from Stack Overflow[0]) and do this on
topic, folks.
By the way, happy new year!
[0]
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/234075/what-is-your-best-
From: "Octavian Rasnita"
> This answer is very good for "Top posts don't bother me as much as
> those who don't trim the quotes." also. :-) When top-posting, the
> advantage is that it is not important how many messages remain at the
> bottom, exactly because nobody reads what's
From: "Shawn H Corey"
> On 10-12-31 10:58 PM, jeff pang wrote:
>> Another problem:
>> Shawn your signature message is too long to read.:)
>>
>> Regards.
>
> Doesn't matter; nobody reads those things anyway. :)
This answer is very good for "Top posts don't bother me as much as those who
don't
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 03:32, Uri Guttman wrote:
>> "RW" == Raymond Wan writes:
> RW> Saying the other tutorials are garbage is quite harsh and a bit
> RW> disrespectful to the authors who presumably meant well and didn't do
> RW> it to sabotage Perl's reputation. Maybe they aren't helpfu
On 10-12-31 10:58 PM, jeff pang wrote:
Another problem:
Shawn your signature message is too long to read.:)
Regards.
Doesn't matter; nobody reads those things anyway. :)
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Just my 0.0002 million dollars worth,
Shawn
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