Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-19 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Ken" == Ken Peng writes: Ken> I am 33 years old. Can I have the chance to see Perl6's official Ken> stable release in my left life? Nobody is ever going to declare Perl 6 "Stable". It will always be a moving target. Much the same way that Perl 5 is now... Perl 5 is hardly "stable". :)

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-18 Thread Dr.Ruud
On 2011-12-15 22:53, Rajeev Prasad wrote: perl5 is dead end OTOH, Perl 5 is alive and kicking. See for example: http://www.perlfoundation.org/ http://www.slideshare.net/Tim.Bunce/perl-myths-200909 http://www.booking.com/hotel/de/sonnenhof-perl.en.html -- Ruud -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: begi

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-16 Thread David Christensen
On 12/15/2011 11:34 PM, abhay vyas wrote: Which book of Llama are you reading? pls tell me the title as I am also on same page as yors. I read "Learning Perl", 2 e., ~13 years ago. David -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h.

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-16 Thread Chankey Pathak
On Dec 16, 3:39 pm, short...@gmail.com (Ken Peng) wrote: > 2011/12/16 Shlomi Fish : > > > Regarding Perl 6 - you are right that it is taking a long time, and that > > some > > people feel its implementations are not usable for them yet. But it doesn't > > mean you can't use Perl 5 now, or that Per

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-16 Thread John SJ Anderson
On Friday, December 16, 2011 at 09:18 , Mark Tiesman wrote: > Not to sound like I am complaining, but aren't we kind of wondering of > my original topic? I will say that Perl 5 is the road I need to travel > since it is heavily utilized here at the University. > Yes, parts of the discussion ha

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-16 Thread Mark Tiesman
Not to sound like I am complaining, but aren't we kind of wondering of my original topic? I will say that Perl 5 is the road I need to travel since it is heavily utilized here at the University. I do want to say thank you for the links at other reading recommendations that have been provided

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-16 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Rob, On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 22:27:22 + Rob Dixon wrote: > Decades of programming in many languages have convinced me that Perl > excels in every aspect. But I have to agree with Rajeev that Perl 6 has > become a theory and needs evidence of practical application. > > In my mind there is no

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-16 Thread Ken Peng
2011/12/16 Shlomi Fish : > Regarding Perl 6 - you are right that it is taking a long time, and that some > people feel its implementations are not usable for them yet. But it doesn't > mean you can't use Perl 5 now, or that Perl 6 will never be ready, or that it > didn't have a positive influence

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-16 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:53:33 -0800 (PST) Rajeev Prasad wrote: > Shlomi, > all of you said is correct, but some may get a negative impression. it shows > as if perl5 and perl 6 are two very different. Well, Perl 5 and Perl 6 are very different. > perl5 is dead end (coz perl 6 is not like 5), p

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread David Christensen
On 12/15/2011 07:54 AM, Mark Tiesman wrote: Hi all. I recently started a job that at some point is going to require me knowing and using Perl. I am pretty green as a programmer and need some guidance to get me going on the right foot. Currently I am reading the Llama book to grease the skids so

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Madrigal, Juan A
Have you looked at these MVC perl frameworks and alternatives to CGI? They definitely go beyond a simple print. mojolicious http://mojolicio.us/ dancer http://perldancer.org/ Catalyst http://www.catalystframework.org/ Web.pm https://github.com/masak/web psgi http://plackperl.org/ mod_parrot/

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Rob Dixon
Decades of programming in many languages have convinced me that Perl excels in every aspect. But I have to agree with Rajeev that Perl 6 has become a theory and needs evidence of practical application. In my mind there is no doubt of the benefits in Perl, but what place does it have? And what are

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Anneli Cuss
ot like there's any worry that he'll choose something else. ;-) Best of luck to you all, Anneli > From: Shlomi Fish > To: Brendan > Cc: Rajeev Prasad ; Mark Tiesman < > mark.ties...@doit.wisc.edu>; "beginners@perl.org" &g

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Rajeev Prasad
and more interest towards php etc... ty. Rajeev From: Shlomi Fish To: Brendan Cc: Rajeev Prasad ; Mark Tiesman ; "beginners@perl.org" Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:45 PM Subject: Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User Hi Rajeev, On T

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Rajeev, On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 15:20:24 -0500 Brendan wrote: > How quickly Perl 6 knowledge can be put to good use probably depends on where > you work. I don't think there are many businesses where they are looking to > convert their Perl 5 code to Perl 6 in the immediate future. > Rajeev

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Brendan
re, you should start by reading Rakudo etc. i.e. >perl6 > > > > > From: Mark Tiesman >To: beginners@perl.org >Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:54 AM >Subject: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User > >Hi all.  I recently started

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Rajeev Prasad
Mark, i think with an eye on future, you should start by reading Rakudo etc. i.e. perl6 From: Mark Tiesman To: beginners@perl.org Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:54 AM Subject: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User Hi all.  I recently started a job

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Brendan Gilroy
Here are some new videos: http://szabgab.com/perl_tutorial.html The standard stuff is here: http://www.perl.org/learn.html http://learn.perl.org/first_steps/ And this is what I was originally looking for: http://perl-tutorial.org/ It's a curated list of tutorials. On

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Mark Tiesman
shlomi, Thanks for the link. I have bookmarked:-) On 12/15/2011 11:56 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi Mark, On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:54:17 -0600 Mark Tiesman wrote: Hi all. I recently started a job that at some point is going to require me knowing and using Perl. I am pretty green as a programmer

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Mark, On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:54:17 -0600 Mark Tiesman wrote: > Hi all. I recently started a job that at some point is going to require > me knowing and using Perl. I am pretty green as a programmer and need > some guidance to get me going on the right foot. Currently I am reading > the

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Madrigal, Juan A
The Learning Perl by Randal Schwartz Video series is a nice intro: http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920014430.do Along with the companion book Learning Perl (6ed): http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920018452.do Lynda.com also offers Perl 5 Essential Training by Bill Weinman: http://www.lyn

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Dr.Ruud
On 2011-12-15 16:54, Mark Tiesman wrote: general information on learning to program and Perl How to Perl: http://learn.perl.org/ which mentions: http://learn.perl.org/books/ -- Ruud -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h.

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Chankey Pathak
*http://www.chankeypathak.com/search/label/Perl* * * On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Agnello George wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Mark Tiesman > wrote: > > Hi all. I recently started a job that at some point is going to require > me > > knowing and using Perl. I am pretty green as

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Agnello George
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Mark Tiesman wrote: > Hi all.  I recently started a job that at some point is going to require me > knowing and using Perl.  I am pretty green as a programmer and need some > guidance to get me going on the right foot.  Currently I am reading the > Llama book to gr

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Tessio Fechine
2011/12/15 Mark Tiesman > Hi all. I recently started a job that at some point is going to require > me knowing and using Perl. I am pretty green as a programmer and need some > guidance to get me going on the right foot. Currently I am reading the > Llama book to grease the skids so to speak,

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Torqued
perlmonks.org is a good site. regards... /om On Dec 15, 2011, at 21:38, Mark Tiesman wrote: > Thanks Frank. I'll add that to my list. ;-) > > Mark > > On 12/15/2011 10:07 AM, frank cui wrote: >> I found Perl By Example 4th Edition book pretty help, and you may want to >> give a look on tha

Re: Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Mark Tiesman
Thanks Frank. I'll add that to my list. ;-) Mark On 12/15/2011 10:07 AM, frank cui wrote: I found Perl By Example 4th Edition book pretty help, and you may want to give a look on that one. Frank On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Mark Tiesman mailto:mark.ties...@doit.wisc.edu>> wrote:

Guidance for a New Programmer/Perl User

2011-12-15 Thread Mark Tiesman
Hi all. I recently started a job that at some point is going to require me knowing and using Perl. I am pretty green as a programmer and need some guidance to get me going on the right foot. Currently I am reading the Llama book to grease the skids so to speak, but am looking for addition ad