knowledge v. IDE was Re: Apel of VIM was Emacs Wizards

2004-01-15 Thread drieux
On Jan 14, 2004, at 12:56 PM, Bradley A. Brown wrote: [..] but I heard it said once that knowledge of a language can never be replaced by an IDE. [..] I want to underscore that. Mastering a Language means understanding it's subtle nuances and arcanea, which is Perl is a LifeStyle, and not someth

Re: Apel of VIM was Emacs Wizards

2004-01-15 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Jeff" == Jeff Westman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jeff> As driex pointed out, it is the start-up time that is preferred in Jeff> vi/vim. But again, a true emacs die-hard never exits the "editor" Jeff> and does all his/her tasks inside the of it. I type "screen emacs" about once every th

RE: Apel of VIM was Emacs Wizards

2004-01-15 Thread Bradley A. Brown
Nicely put. Bradley -Original Message- From: Dan Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 10:02 AM To: Jeff Westman Cc: Perl Beginners Subject: RE: Apel of VIM was Emacs Wizards On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 18:22, Jeff Westman wrote: > Incidently, emacs has a &#x

RE: Apel of VIM was Emacs Wizards

2004-01-15 Thread Dan Anderson
On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 18:22, Jeff Westman wrote: > Incidently, emacs has a 'dired mode' (directory editor) which is > very nice... much like the old 'list' shareware in DOS land of the > dark past you can bring up a list of files (like 'ls -l'), then > view and selectively execute or delete all

Re: Emacs Wizards

2004-01-15 Thread Dan Anderson
On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 11:07, Paul Kraus wrote: > Is there a way to easily have emacs comment out xnumber of lines. M-x comment-region will comment out a marked region. C-x ( starts defining a macro. Type the keys you'd normally type to comment out a line, i.e. C-a # SPC Now hit C-x ). The macro

RE: Apel of VIM was Emacs Wizards

2004-01-14 Thread Jeff Westman
--- > From: Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:47 PM > To: drieux > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Apel of VIM was Emacs Wizards > > > At 11:24 AM 1/14/04 -0800, you wrote: > >... > >or trying to make that one liner "p

RE : Apel of VIM was Emacs Wizards

2004-01-14 Thread Hemond, Steve
4 3:57 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Apel of VIM was Emacs Wizards > > > I use vim on a daily basis from the command line and its > syntax highlighting and color coding is very nice in my > opinion. I'm not flaming here so don't take me wrong, but I

RE: Apel of VIM was Emacs Wizards

2004-01-14 Thread Bradley A. Brown
off to me, but I can see their usefullness in many projects. Bradley -Original Message- From: Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:47 PM To: drieux Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Apel of VIM was Emacs Wizards At 11:24 AM 1/14/04 -0800, you wrote: >...

Re: Apel of VIM was Emacs Wizards

2004-01-14 Thread Tim
At 11:24 AM 1/14/04 -0800, you wrote: ... or trying to make that one liner "perl -pie ''" work right the first time... Isn't that what the "i" is for (with ".bak", of course)? ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Apel of VIM was Emacs Wizards

2004-01-14 Thread drieux
On Jan 14, 2004, at 10:49 AM, Paul Kraus wrote: [..] Why? I started with emacs just because it happened to be the 1st I heard about. Since you know both why does vim appeal to you over emacs? Other then size. Not wishing to start an editor war, allow me to wander. A part of the issue we are wande

RE:Apel of VIM was Emacs Wizards

2004-01-14 Thread Jeff Westman
Paul Kraus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (I love emacs, but vi is my tool of choice day-to-day ... much > > quicker vim is even better if you have it) > Why? I started with emacs just because it happened to be the 1st > I heard > about. Since you know both why does vim appeal to you over em

RE:Apel of VIM was Emacs Wizards

2004-01-14 Thread Paul Kraus
> (I love emacs, but vi is my tool of choice day-to-day ... much > quicker vim is even better if you have it) Why? I started with emacs just because it happened to be the 1st I heard about. Since you know both why does vim appeal to you over emacs? Other then size. -- To unsubscribe, e-mai

Re: Emacs Wizards

2004-01-14 Thread Jeff Westman
Paul Kraus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a way to easily have emacs comment out xnumber of lines. > > If something{ > Then do > Else > Do > } > > Alt 5 Ctrl - somecoolsequence I don't know > > #If something{ > # Then do > #Else > # Do > #} > > Sort of perl relat

Re: Emacs Wizards

2004-01-14 Thread Daniel Staal
--As off Wednesday, January 14, 2004 8:29 AM -0800, drieux is alleged to have said: Or if we are using our bbedit it is some find and replace with grep using the selected region only or in --As for the rest, it is mine. Actually, in BBEdit it is Tools->Un/Comment. No shortcut key by d

Re: Emacs Wizards

2004-01-14 Thread drieux
On Jan 14, 2004, at 8:07 AM, Paul Kraus wrote: Sort of perl related assuming you hackers are using 'real editor' :) real coders of course would do :.,5s/^/#/ because we are not afraid of vi. 8-) Or if we are using our bbedit it is some find and replace with grep using the selected region

Emacs Wizards

2004-01-14 Thread Paul Kraus
Is there a way to easily have emacs comment out xnumber of lines. If something{ Then do Else Do } Alt 5 Ctrl - somecoolsequence I don't know #If something{ # Then do #Else # Do #} Sort of perl related assuming you hackers are using 'real editor' :) Paul Kraus