Re: Please Help!! Error 401.3 Unauthorized: Unauthorized due to ACL on resource

2003-02-13 Thread R. Joseph Newton
Nancy Ford wrote: > I'm trying to run my first Perl script on a WinNT server. I get a logon box. > If I enter my username and password, it lets me in. If I cancel out or enter > the username and password of someone who is not in the Administrator's > group, I get the following error. > > HTTP Err

Re: Please Help!! Error 401.3 Unauthorized: Unauthorized due to ACL on resource

2003-02-13 Thread R. Joseph Newton
Nancy Ford wrote: > I'm trying to run my first Perl script on a WinNT server. I get a logon box. > If I enter my username and password, it lets me in. If I cancel out or enter > the username and password of someone who is not in the Administrator's > group, I get the following error. Is this CGI?

Re: session ID

2003-02-13 Thread R. Joseph Newton
mario kulka wrote: > Hi, > I guess I'm lost again on this topic:( > I'm basically trying the following: > User logs in -> then he has a choice: > 1. enter new record > 2. edit old one > Once taken to those new pages I somehow must keep the fact that he already > logged in and at the same time forb

httaccess login - redirect to login script

2003-02-13 Thread Patricia Hinman
I've been reading about htaccess files, directives, pros and con's. This redirects pages to another page in the .htaccess file. Redirect /location/from/root/file.ext http://www.othersite.com/new/file/location.xyz My question is do I need to use a Redirect to make the browser go to my login scr

Re: Gif Problem

2003-02-13 Thread John W. Krahn
Shawn Bower wrote: > > I'm trying to write a script that will open a socket connection to a > website and return a gif. I got it working to the point where and send > the request and receive the response, I was able to remove the HTTP > headers the only problem is that the GIF wont display proper

Re: inner variable access

2003-02-13 Thread John W. Krahn
"R. Joseph Newton" wrote: > > Lance wrote: > > > If I hafta pass in refs from loop1 2 and 3 all the way down the line, So Be > > It. It just makes my argument list a little unsightly, is all. > > You might want to re-examine this view. The process of passing by reference > is not something to

Re: h-cat?

2003-02-13 Thread Bryan Harris
[stuff cut out] >> I'd like it to be able to work on any number of files, and they might be >> huge (20+ MB). I was thinking it'd be good to open up all the files at >> once, and write out the new file one line at a time, but I can't figure >> out how to set up an array of filehandles. I'm not

RE: crypt() unix function, what about windows cryption? .htpasswd file

2003-02-13 Thread Beau E. Cox
Hi - crypt () works fine for me on Win2K... > -Original Message- > From: Patricia Hinman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:57 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: crypt() unix function, what about windows cryption? .htpasswd > file > > > OOPS mistake corre

crypt() unix function, what about windows cryption? .htpasswd file

2003-02-13 Thread Patricia Hinman
OOPS mistake corrected > I did stumble across a method call to a cryption() ---wrong crypt() is the method -- I have just discovered it is a unix function. It doesn't decrypt. One must always crypt user input then check for equality. if (crypt ($guess, $pass) eq $pass) { # guess

Re: Wiggins, password encryption, .htpasswd file

2003-02-13 Thread Patricia Hinman
--- Wiggins d'Anconia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Always group reply so that the rest of the list can > help and be helped by the discussion. Sorry if I sent email to your address. It wasn't intentional. I'm new to encryption. When I think of Crypt I think graveyard. And so far I've found no i

Re: fast perl executable ?

2003-02-13 Thread simran
depends on the task being performed and the level of optimisation performed on the code. On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 14:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > hi all, > > how fast are the perl executables when compared with perl scripts and > also when compared with C executable on linux ? > > regards, > K

Re: exceptions && exception objects

2003-02-13 Thread simran
If java style exceptions are what is needed, then try: http://search.cpan.org/author/PJORDAN/Exception-1.4/Exception.pm http://search.cpan.org/author/IX/libservlet-0.9.2/lib/Servlet/ServletException.pm simran. On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 14:56, R. Joseph Newton wrote: > "Shaw, Steven" wrote: > >

Re: creating my own library

2003-02-13 Thread Wiggins d'Anconia
Always group reply so that the rest of the list can help and be helped by the discussion. Patricia Hinman wrote: I thought that this was the case. I downloaded a c compiler called Miracle C. But I haven't learned how it works yet. I do have C++ and 1000 page book to go with it. (ugh) The c

fast perl executable ?

2003-02-13 Thread km
hi all, how fast are the perl executables when compared with perl scripts and also when compared with C executable on linux ? regards, KM --- On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Gan Uesli Starling wrote: > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Gif Problem

2003-02-13 Thread Shawn Bower
I'm trying to write a script that will open a socket connection to a website and return a gif. I got it working to the point where and send the request and receive the response, I was able to remove the HTTP headers the only problem is that the GIF wont display properly. I downloaded the gif via

Re: What's a -|?

2003-02-13 Thread simran
'-' is usually STDIN or STDOUT... in the way you are using it, its "pipe in from STDIN" On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 14:48, Troy May wrote: > I have this line in one of my scripts: > > if ( $pid = open( SWISH, '-|' ) ) > > Why am I opening -|? And what is it? > > Thanks. -- To unsubscribe, e-ma

Re: What's a -|?

2003-02-13 Thread Wiggins d'Anconia
Troy May wrote: I have this line in one of my scripts: if ( $pid = open( SWISH, '-|' ) ) Why am I opening -|? And what is it? Well it is rope to hang yourself with ;-)... more required reading: perldoc perlopentut (Don't you just hate it when its in the manual?) From the above: "The Minu

Re: exceptions && exception objects

2003-02-13 Thread R. Joseph Newton
"Shaw, Steven" wrote: > Hi, I'm looking for tutorials/sample-code/book-recommendations for learning about >exceptions, exception objects and their effective use. > > Cheers, > Steve. Hi Steve, You may be in the wrong neck of the woods for that purpose. Although Perl has some techniques for ha

What's a -|?

2003-02-13 Thread Troy May
I have this line in one of my scripts: if ( $pid = open( SWISH, '-|' ) ) Why am I opening -|? And what is it? Thanks. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Help getting scripts working...

2003-02-13 Thread R. Joseph Newton
Mark VanMiddlesworth wrote: > this is a script that systematically pings every host on the network, > and writes the output to the screen. If the -n arg is specified, it > will also write to a disk. What's wrong with the syntax, especially > line 12? Why am I supposed to count to line 12, instead

Re: inner variable access

2003-02-13 Thread Wiggins d'Anconia
R. Joseph Newton wrote: Lance wrote: If I hafta pass in refs from loop1 2 and 3 all the way down the line, So Be It. It just makes my argument list a little unsightly, is all. It can also help you prevent confusion. I agree with what you said, particularly about scalability and enca

Re: HTML::TokeParser

2003-02-13 Thread R. Joseph Newton
Dan Muey wrote: > That's exactly it, thanks you very much! > One more tiny little problem, > > I have it grabbing the title, links and img tags perfectly except fot one minor snafu > > It won't grab/parse img tags that are between tags, IE an image that is a link. > I tried having it parse 's fir

Re: inner variable access

2003-02-13 Thread R. Joseph Newton
Lance wrote: > If I hafta pass in refs from loop1 2 and 3 all the way down the line, So Be > It. It just makes my argument list a little unsightly, is all. Hi Lance, You might want to re-examine this view. The process of passing by reference is not something to just resign yourself to. It i

Re: perl executable ?

2003-02-13 Thread Gan Uesli Starling
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> if i want to make a standalone executable of my perl program how do i do that with perlcc ??? or any other way to generate machinecoded executable? kindly enlighten me -- regards, KM If your standalone is for Win32, then this might do the trick. I used to use it with

Re: pattern match problem

2003-02-13 Thread ktb
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 04:39:17PM -0800, tao wang wrote: > hi, > > I'm trying to write a script to match a pattern like > this: 1.10 > > I wrote [\d.]+, but this also match with pattern ... > , which has no number in it. Could somebody help me > with it? I'm new to perl and scripts. thank

Re: pattern match problem

2003-02-13 Thread Wiggins d'Anconia
tao wang wrote: hi, I'm trying to write a script to match a pattern like this: 1.10 I wrote [\d.]+, but this also match with pattern ... , which has no number in it. Could somebody help me with it? I'm new to perl and scripts. thanks a lot. \d.\d+ \d+.\d+ \d*.\d* \d+\.+\d+ \d+\.*\d+ \

RE: pattern match problem

2003-02-13 Thread Timothy Johnson
How about something like this? /\d{0,3}\.\d{0,3}/ which should match 0-3 digits followed by a period followed by 0-3 digits. You should be able to see how you can change it if you want to expand how many digits to capture. You could also try: /\d+\.\d+/ Which matches one or more digits follo

RE: pattern match problem

2003-02-13 Thread Wagner, David --- Senior Programmer Analyst --- WGO
tao wang wrote: > hi, > > I'm trying to write a script to match a pattern like > this: 1.10 > > I wrote [\d.]+, but this also match with pattern ... > , which has no number in it. Could somebody help me > with it? I'm new to perl and scripts. thanks a lot. /^\d+\.\d+/ which says ancho

pattern match problem

2003-02-13 Thread tao wang
hi, I'm trying to write a script to match a pattern like this: 1.10 I wrote [\d.]+, but this also match with pattern ... , which has no number in it. Could somebody help me with it? I'm new to perl and scripts. thanks a lot. - tao __ Do

Re: perl executable ?

2003-02-13 Thread Jenda Krynicky
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > if i want to make a standalone executable of my perl program how do i > do that with perlcc ??? or any other way to generate machinecoded > executable? kindly enlighten me -- regards, KM If you run perldoc perlcc you will get the documentation. Including this

Re: creating my own library

2003-02-13 Thread Wiggins d'Anconia
Patricia Hinman wrote: I would like to pack some modules with my program. I've learned about use lib qw(/mydirto/mylibrary/); for simple modules. Now I have an module that has several directories (Crypt::OpenPGP). The program can't find the module in the library when I simply upload it to the

Re: How to get a value from a Select (HTML Tag) and use it in Perl

2003-02-13 Thread Wiggins d'Anconia
Guy P wrote: Hello, I've got a Perl program that create an HTML page and I would like to get in the Perl program the value that is selected in a combo list (HTML Select Tag). You should read the documentation for the CGI module: http://search.cpan.org/author/LDS/CGI.pm-2.91/CGI.pm http://dan

Removing 5.005

2003-02-13 Thread Tom Beer
Hi, I'm trying to get Spamassassin running on FreeBSD where a 5.00503 Version of Perl is installed, however. I additionally installed 5.6.1 which doesn't leaded to results cause of library mismatch. So how can I get rid of the 5.005 Version without harming the system? Thanks a lot Tom -- To uns

Re: h-cat?

2003-02-13 Thread david
Paul wrote: > One particular thing to watch -- most systems have a limit on how many > filehandles a process can have open at a time. To see your max, (and as > a template for another solution), try this: > > use FileHandle; > while ($_ = new FileHandle ">deleteme") { >push @_, $_; >unlin

Re: perl executable ?

2003-02-13 Thread simran
Not sure about how to do it via perlcc, but you can alternatively try: http://www.perl2exe.com/ On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 08:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > hi all, > if i want to make a standalone executable of my perl program how do i do > that with perlcc ??? > or any other way to generate machinec

Re: h-cat?

2003-02-13 Thread Paul
> Bryan Harris wrote: > > I'm interested in doing the equivalent of a horizontal "cat" on a > bunch of files. That is, instead of listing them one after another, > I'd like them "cat"ted next to each other horizontally (tab separated). > > I'd like it to be able to work on any number of files, an

perl executable ?

2003-02-13 Thread km
hi all, if i want to make a standalone executable of my perl program how do i do that with perlcc ??? or any other way to generate machinecoded executable? kindly enlighten me -- regards, KM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: h-cat?

2003-02-13 Thread John W. Krahn
Bryan Harris wrote: > > I'm interested in doing the equivalent of a horizontal "cat" on a bunch of > files. That is, instead of listing them one after another, I'd like them > "cat"ted next to each other horizontally (tab separated). > > e.g. > > file t1 > 0 > 1 > 2 > > file t2 > 10 15 > 11 >

How to get a value from a Select (HTML Tag) and use it in Perl

2003-02-13 Thread Guy P
Hello, I've got a Perl program that create an HTML page and I would like to get in the Perl program the value that is selected in a combo list (HTML Select Tag). Thanks a lot!!! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

creating my own library

2003-02-13 Thread Patricia Hinman
I would like to pack some modules with my program. I've learned about use lib qw(/mydirto/mylibrary/); for simple modules. Now I have an module that has several directories (Crypt::OpenPGP). The program can't find the module in the library when I simply upload it to the server. I've appende

Re: h-cat?

2003-02-13 Thread david
Bryan Harris wrote: > > I'm interested in doing the equivalent of a horizontal "cat" on a bunch of > files. That is, instead of listing them one after another, I'd like them > "cat"ted next to each other horizontally (tab separated). > > > % hcat t1 t2 t3 > 0 10 15 20 > 1 11 21 > 2 1

Re: Confused on hash references

2003-02-13 Thread Lance
Check out Data::Dumper, you'll love it! www.perldoc.com Pass it a ref and it prints out a pretty data structure recursively, so you don't have to! Ain't Perl Grand? "Barry Kingsbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I have created the following

h-cat?

2003-02-13 Thread Bryan Harris
I'm interested in doing the equivalent of a horizontal "cat" on a bunch of files. That is, instead of listing them one after another, I'd like them "cat"ted next to each other horizontally (tab separated). e.g. file t1 0 1 2 file t2 10 15 11 12 13 14 file t3 20 21 % hcat t1 t2 t3 0 10 1

RE: File handling

2003-02-13 Thread Ramón Chávez
Try Here: http://www.perldoc.com/perl5.6/pod/perlfaq5.html -rm- - Original Message - From: Paul Kraus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Bob Showalter' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Pankaj Kapare' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:55 AM Subject: RE: File handling

Perl/TK Tutor

2003-02-13 Thread yargo
Where can I get a good TK tutorial, in order to learn the TK basics ? TIA, YG -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: cant build Perl module on openserver 5

2003-02-13 Thread wiggins
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:17:47 -0500, "Paul Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am trying to build Compress-Zlib-1.19 on sco openserver 5. GCC is > installed from skunkware but it seems to try and use CC. I do not have > the sco development softwar

FW: Focing a page break using format statements

2003-02-13 Thread Maureen E Fischer
I am having a problem knowing how to force a top of page. I was using format statements for my report by I can change it to printf if there is a way. My report is for various clients and I want to run the job once for all the clients but go to top of page and start the page numbers over at one

RE: upgrading perl

2003-02-13 Thread Jenda Krynicky
From: "Richard Fernandez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Getting the software isn't that hard, just a question of using > "sneaker net". But I would like to avoid having to rebuild all my > modules if possible. > > Is it feasible to install 5.6 (someone has mentioned that 5.8 isn't > binary compatible with

RE: File handling

2003-02-13 Thread Bob Showalter
Paul Kraus wrote: > This doesn't work with activestate on windows. > > perldoc -q 'change one line' > > Output > No documentation for perl FAQ keyword `'change' found. Use double quotes for brain-dead windoze: perldoc -q "change one line" (I just noticed this FAQ answer has changed signifi

Re: binary files

2003-02-13 Thread Janek Schleicher
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:49:04 -0500, Sean Sugrue wrote: > I need to be able read the first few lines of a binary test file (i.e. > .staff form). Please define what is a line for you in a binary file. If it is just a normal line (ending on the line separator), you just can do the normal way, e.g.

RE: How to get a dir file list sans sub-dir names.

2003-02-13 Thread Wagner, David --- Senior Programmer Analyst --- WGO
John W. Krahn wrote: > Gan Uesli Starling wrote: >> >> Am wanting to get a list of files in a directory, but only >> files which are not themselves further sub-directories. >> >> When I do this... >> >> opendir(DIR, $this_path) or die "Can't opendir $this_path: $!"; > > You are opening the

RE: File handling

2003-02-13 Thread Paul Kraus
This doesn't work with activestate on windows. perldoc -q 'change one line' Output No documentation for perl FAQ keyword `'change' found. -Original Message- From: Bob Showalter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:56 AM To: 'Pankaj Kapare'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

binary files

2003-02-13 Thread Sugrue, Sean
I need to be able read the first few lines of a binary test file (i.e. .staff form). Does anyone know how to do this in purl. Sean -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: File handling

2003-02-13 Thread Paul Kraus
Not tested. I am sure there is a more elegant way to do this but this should do the trick. It will create a new file with the changes. If you want to edit it inline you will have to do some research. #Open files for input and output open (IN,"outfile") or die "Can not open file fo

RE: upgrading perl

2003-02-13 Thread Richard Fernandez
Getting the software isn't that hard, just a question of using "sneaker net". But I would like to avoid having to rebuild all my modules if possible. Is it feasible to install 5.6 (someone has mentioned that 5.8 isn't binary compatible with older versions) and then use symlinks to point to the old

RE: File handling

2003-02-13 Thread Bob Showalter
Pankaj Kapare wrote: > Hi > I want to to file handling in perl.In that I have one file > which contains some lines.Now I want to modify some of lines like.. > My file conatins line one > line two > line three > password="password"; > Login Id ="xyz" > line 6 > and so on > > if i want to write new

upgrading perl

2003-02-13 Thread Richard Fernandez
I have a box that's running perl version 5.005_03 and I'ld like to upgrade to the latest version. What's the best way to accomplish this and maintain access to my currently installed modules? I'm doing this on a SUN box. Also, this particular box is behind a firewall and doesn't have internet con

cant build Perl module on openserver 5

2003-02-13 Thread Paul Kraus
I am trying to build Compress-Zlib-1.19 on sco openserver 5. GCC is installed from skunkware but it seems to try and use CC. I do not have the sco development software installed so CC is not there. Running Perl 5.6.0 which is a whole other problem I cant get Perl 5.8 to build on this machine eithe

Re: Help retrieving data from Win server

2003-02-13 Thread Felix Geerinckx
on Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:29:41 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian McGraw) wrote: > ... but I'm kind of stumped as to the best way > to retrieve disk space data from my Win machines. Have a look at Dave Roth's Win32::AdminMisc module. http://www.roth.net/perl/adminmisc/#GetDriveSpace > I'm using

File handling

2003-02-13 Thread Pankaj Kapare
Hi I want to to file handling in perl.In that I have one file which contains some lines.Now I want to modify some of lines like.. My file conatins line one line two line three password="password"; Login Id ="xyz" line 6 and so on if i want to write new passord and login id then how can i do tha

Re: Confused on hash references

2003-02-13 Thread Jeff 'japhy' Pinyan
On Feb 13, Barry Kingsbury said: >I have created the following data structure: > >%mailings = ( tv => { mail_demo_key => "Demo License Key for TotalView", > mail_thank_you => "Thank you for downloading >TotalView", > pdf => LOCATION_OF_PDF,

RE: Confused on hash references

2003-02-13 Thread wiggins
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:21:13 -0500, Barry Kingsbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can some guru explain? > They have already ;-)...have you done your reading? perldoc perlreftut perldoc perlref These are two excellent starting places, and shoul

Help retrieving data from Win server

2003-02-13 Thread Brian McGraw
Hello list, I've started writing a little script to automate daily procedures (check backup status, look for AV dat updates, disk space, etc). I have a mix of Linux and Windows machines. I'm not having trouble with the Linux boxes, but I'm kind of stumped as to the best way to retrieve

Confused on hash references

2003-02-13 Thread Barry Kingsbury
I have created the following data structure: %mailings = ( tv => { mail_demo_key => "Demo License Key for TotalView", mail_thank_you => "Thank you for downloading TotalView", pdf => LOCATION_OF_PDF, location=> L

Re: The email format of this list.

2003-02-13 Thread Felix Geerinckx
on Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:17:03 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zeus Odin) wrote: > I am trying to avoid Windows. A little help will be greatly > appreciated. Point your newsreader at nntp.perl.org. -- felix -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Weekly list FAQ posting

2003-02-13 Thread casey
NAME beginners-faq - FAQ for the beginners mailing list 1 - Administriva 1.1 - I'm not subscribed - how do I subscribe? Send mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You can also specify your subscription email address by sending email to (assuming [EMAIL PROTECTED] is your email address):

Re: How to get a dir file list sans sub-dir names.

2003-02-13 Thread Felix Geerinckx
on Thu, 13 Feb 2003 00:21:03 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gan Uesli Starling) wrote: > Am wanting to get a list of files in a directory, but only > files which are not themselves further sub-directories. > > When I do this... > >opendir(DIR, $this_path) or die "Can't opendir $this_path: $!"

Re: Variable type

2003-02-13 Thread Paul Johnson
Lance said: > Is there a way to determine a type of variable? i.e. If I want to test a > variable for what type it is: scarlar, array, hash, arrayref, hashref, > etc. The sigil will tell you the type, but if you have a scalar and want to know what it references, use ref(). perldoc -f ref --

The email format of this list.

2003-02-13 Thread Zeus Odin
Why is it that the beginners-digest emails are properly displayed ONLY by MS Outlook? If I look at the digest email in Outlook, it comprises a number of attachments who are themselves the actual email postings. I open an attachment and can reply to the original sender. This is not the case in linu

Re: Help me to build this script

2003-02-13 Thread Rob Dixon
Lielie Meimei wrote: >> Hello.. >> >> I'm still newbie. >> >> Could u help me to see why in the script perl here can >> not compiled, please help me. >> >> >> ==Begin of indexsite.pl == >> >> #!/usr/bin/perl Please always: use strict; use warnings; >> $directo

Hash with Arraykey

2003-02-13 Thread Angerstein
Hello, I have a Hash of Data. The Key lies in an Array of on Array of Arrays or something like that. How do I use it??? if ($myhash{$ArrayOfKeys[2][4][1]}){ print "soo\n"; } or if ($myhash{"$ArrayOfKeys[2][4][1]"}){ print "joo\n"; } or how? Thanks! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROT

Re: What is this error message, please?

2003-02-13 Thread Rob Dixon
Gan Uesli Starling wrote: > I see hundreds of these error messages from -w switch... > > Character in "C" format wrapped at ./FYBB_DirTree.pm line 867. > > ...here is line 867... > > $buf = pack( 'C*', @{ $bufRfs[0] } ); > > ...but my program (an encryption routine) works jus fine. I > packing with

Re: creating a shell

2003-02-13 Thread Mark G
> a real basic tutorial or doc of some kind that explains how to > write a simple shell here is a real simple psuedo shell; while(){ read from stdin parse it do something with it depending on the string read } - Original Message - From: "ktb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL